Oregon's Spring Game

RoadDawg55 said:

bananasnblondes said:

dnc said:

I wonder what ever happened to Potasi Moala or whatever that kids name was who jumped ship as soon as he got another offer

Moala is a backup OL for UCLA.

http://www.uclabruins.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=3861

2016 - Saw action on special teams and along the offensive line ... Started in three games at guard (at TexasA&M, USC, at Cal).

2015 - Saw action as a reserve along the offensive line and on special teams.

2014 - Saw his first game action ... Appeared in several games late in the season as a blocking tight end.

2013 - Did not see game action in his first season in the program.

RoadDawg55 said:

AZDuck said:

Yeah sure nobody knows yet. I know. Taggart's hired assistants with good track records, he's turned around Western Kentucky and South Florida, yadda yadda.

He's recruiting great. Let's see who signs, and what Willie and his staff (LOL!) do with em.

I go back and forth on Oregon because you have talent, but Taggart does seem like a retard to me.

Your old assistants were pretty good too, DC withstanding. Leavitt is a huge upgrade even if he sucks.

Cut the heads off the snake and punking a 24 year old wannabe journalist is some little league shit. Losing good in state recruits to UW has to hurt too. Not trying to rub it in, but you know that's not good.

A somewhat tough team that plays hard should be able to win 8-9 games with Freeman, the other RB, Herbert, and Carrington. I'm still surprised it fell apart so quickly.

Every time I read something about Willie, I think, "God, that's exactly what Sark was like." So far we have the kick ass presser, the tough guy act, throwing out scholarship offers like candy, having a bunch of kids commit on one day for free pub.

I would be interested to hear what Taggart's rule is on commits taking visits. I did notice that the kids UW was in on said they would like to take all their visits during earlier interviews.

doogville said:

I remember these comments from Sark's first year. Holt has the D looking really sound! Man, this young staff can really recruit!

Enjoy the wilderness, quooks. Pete will pick the score when you visit this year.

I'd say Leavitt has a little more established coaching body of work than Hart.

I'd say almost anybody has a more developed coaching body of work than Sark.

I'd say Taggart's pressers have NOT been kick ass, but rather stupid.

I'd say the one thing I don't ever remember hearing from Sark was anything close to resembling tough-guy talk. I think even Sark is self-aware enough to know he can't pull that off. He is entirely LA boy and belongs on Melrose Place. Those guys don't try and talk tuff.

Punking the journalist was a yawner - both for whatever effect Willy hoped it would have and for the lemon party being thrown here over it. You guys get down right fucking giddy anytime anything happens down there. It's fucking hilarious.

Meanwhile, while you're staring at Oregon wondering what's really going on down there, my Canes are preparing for a comeback of 7-11-like proportions.

Mosster47 said:

RoadDawg55 said:

AZDuck said:

Yeah sure nobody knows yet. I know. Taggart's hired assistants with good track records, he's turned around Western Kentucky and South Florida, yadda yadda.

He's recruiting great. Let's see who signs, and what Willie and his staff (LOL!) do with em.

I go back and forth on Oregon because you have talent, but Taggart does seem like a retard to me.

Your old assistants were pretty good too, DC withstanding. Leavitt is a huge upgrade even if he sucks.

Cut the heads off the snake and punking a 24 year old wannabe journalist is some little league shit. Losing good in state recruits to UW has to hurt too. Not trying to rub it in, but you know that's not good.

A somewhat tough team that plays hard should be able to win 8-9 games with Freeman, the other RB, Herbert, and Carrington. I'm still surprised it fell apart so quickly.

The only reason Oregon fell off so quickly was because of the move from a very mediocre defensive coordinator to one that literally didn't know how to coach a defense, at all. The offense still averaged around 35 points per game.

Which is amazing considering how bad O line play was. Getting Carrington back was Yuge.

creepycoug said:

FremontTroll said:

creepycoug said:

Mosster47 said:

RoadDawg55 said:

AZDuck said:

Yeah sure nobody knows yet. I know. Taggart's hired assistants with good track records, he's turned around Western Kentucky and South Florida, yadda yadda.

He's recruiting great. Let's see who signs, and what Willie and his staff (LOL!) do with em.

I go back and forth on Oregon because you have talent, but Taggart does seem like a retard to me.

Your old assistants were pretty good too, DC withstanding. Leavitt is a huge upgrade even if he sucks.

Cut the heads off the snake and punking a 24 year old wannabe journalist is some little league shit. Losing good in state recruits to UW has to hurt too. Not trying to rub it in, but you know that's not good.

A somewhat tough team that plays hard should be able to win 8-9 games with Freeman, the other RB, Herbert, and Carrington. I'm still surprised it fell apart so quickly.

The only reason Oregon fell off so quickly was because of the move from a very mediocre defensive coordinator to one that literally didn't know how to coach a defense, at all. The offense still averaged around 35 points per game.

Which is amazing considering how bad O line play was. Getting Carrington back was Yuge.

Really, why? What has he done?

Dude is Jaydon Mickens South.

Are we talking about the same kid? I don't think so. Following up on another thread, I've read publications projecting him as a second round pick. I doubt that will happen based on the point you made earlier, but Jaydon Mickens? I don't think so.

Ask the Ducks if they consider Carrington important to their offense.

Again, this is the guy who more or less lit up Washington's defense in Seattle for 2 scores and 125 yds. receiving. Where were you?

The only time I remember him disappearing was in the national title game, because he was suspended, and they could have used him.

He's been a fairly big-play receiver for them.

The biggest strike against him is he was better as a freshman than he was as a junior.

That shits always scary.

He needs to have a huge senior year if he wants to get picked.

NEsnake12 said:

dnc said:

creepycoug said:

FremontTroll said:

creepycoug said:

Mosster47 said:

RoadDawg55 said:

AZDuck said:

Yeah sure nobody knows yet. I know. Taggart's hired assistants with good track records, he's turned around Western Kentucky and South Florida, yadda yadda.

He's recruiting great. Let's see who signs, and what Willie and his staff (LOL!) do with em.

I go back and forth on Oregon because you have talent, but Taggart does seem like a retard to me.

Your old assistants were pretty good too, DC withstanding. Leavitt is a huge upgrade even if he sucks.

Cut the heads off the snake and punking a 24 year old wannabe journalist is some little league shit. Losing good in state recruits to UW has to hurt too. Not trying to rub it in, but you know that's not good.

A somewhat tough team that plays hard should be able to win 8-9 games with Freeman, the other RB, Herbert, and Carrington. I'm still surprised it fell apart so quickly.

The only reason Oregon fell off so quickly was because of the move from a very mediocre defensive coordinator to one that literally didn't know how to coach a defense, at all. The offense still averaged around 35 points per game.

Which is amazing considering how bad O line play was. Getting Carrington back was Yuge.

Really, why? What has he done?

Dude is Jaydon Mickens South.

Are we talking about the same kid? I don't think so. Following up on another thread, I've read publications projecting him as a second round pick. I doubt that will happen based on the point you made earlier, but Jaydon Mickens? I don't think so.

Ask the Ducks if they consider Carrington important to their offense.

Again, this is the guy who more or less lit up Washington's defense in Seattle for 2 scores and 125 yds. receiving. Where were you?

The only time I remember him disappearing was in the national title game, because he was suspended, and they could have used him.

He's been a fairly big-play receiver for them.

The biggest strike against him is he was better as a freshman than he was as a junior.

That shits always scary.

He needs to have a huge senior year if he wants to get picked.

I think that has more to do with quality of QB play than anything else

If so he'll have a chance to demonstrate that this year. I expect their QB play to be better than it has since his frosh year. If it isn't that's a blackeye for Taggot, IMO.

dnc said:

NEsnake12 said:

dnc said:

creepycoug said:

FremontTroll said:

creepycoug said:

Mosster47 said:

RoadDawg55 said:

AZDuck said:

Yeah sure nobody knows yet. I know. Taggart's hired assistants with good track records, he's turned around Western Kentucky and South Florida, yadda yadda.

He's recruiting great. Let's see who signs, and what Willie and his staff (LOL!) do with em.

I go back and forth on Oregon because you have talent, but Taggart does seem like a retard to me.

Your old assistants were pretty good too, DC withstanding. Leavitt is a huge upgrade even if he sucks.

Cut the heads off the snake and punking a 24 year old wannabe journalist is some little league shit. Losing good in state recruits to UW has to hurt too. Not trying to rub it in, but you know that's not good.

A somewhat tough team that plays hard should be able to win 8-9 games with Freeman, the other RB, Herbert, and Carrington. I'm still surprised it fell apart so quickly.

The only reason Oregon fell off so quickly was because of the move from a very mediocre defensive coordinator to one that literally didn't know how to coach a defense, at all. The offense still averaged around 35 points per game.

Which is amazing considering how bad O line play was. Getting Carrington back was Yuge.

Really, why? What has he done?

Dude is Jaydon Mickens South.

Are we talking about the same kid? I don't think so. Following up on another thread, I've read publications projecting him as a second round pick. I doubt that will happen based on the point you made earlier, but Jaydon Mickens? I don't think so.

Ask the Ducks if they consider Carrington important to their offense.

Again, this is the guy who more or less lit up Washington's defense in Seattle for 2 scores and 125 yds. receiving. Where were you?

The only time I remember him disappearing was in the national title game, because he was suspended, and they could have used him.

He's been a fairly big-play receiver for them.

The biggest strike against him is he was better as a freshman than he was as a junior.

That shits always scary.

He needs to have a huge senior year if he wants to get picked.

I think that has more to do with quality of QB play than anything else

If so he'll have a chance to demonstrate that this year. I expect their QB play to be better than it has since his frosh year. If it isn't that's a blackeye for Taggot, IMO.

Agreed. Herbert's a good QB who now has sufficient snaps under his belt.

Much depends on what they've been able to do with the O line.

FremontTroll said:

bananasnblondes said:

I remember when Sark pulled this off 4 years ago. I think 3 of the 8 guys actually signed with UW, and only 1 of them (Qualls) lasted past the 1st year.

Qualls and Lavon.

So it was a good day

RaceBannon said:

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

IPukeOregonGrellow said:

dnc said:

AZDuck said:

It's nice. Hopefully these kids stick. 5 4-stars in 24 hours is kind of unprecedented for us? even when we? were good.

One thing I've heard is that this is part of the reason Taggart cleaned house, was because the old staff, and everyone connected with all that program continuity approached recruiting with a "aw shucks we're little Oregon, and we're just happy to be a hat on the table" attitude. Taggart's approach is that Oregon is a blue-chip program with blue-chip facilities, blue-chip donor support, and blue-chip coffee cups.

Taggart brought 30 4* and 5* guys to Eugene for the Spring gayme, on unofficial visits. That in itself impresses me. Now he got almost a quarter of them to commit, same day, impresses me even moar. I know Leavit and Cristobal can coach. So, this has me feeling pretty happy.

1/6 = almost a quarter?

The only fraction we trust in Oregon is 9/10th of a cent.

3/5 is still a popular fraction south of the Columbia.

OUCH!!!!

FremontTroll said:

All of his numbers were down significantly on a per game basis in 2016.

Regardless of who the qb was UO completed more passes in 2016 and threw for more yards per game than 2015.

Obviously there was more talent to compete with for targets in 2014 than 2016. Six guys caught 5 or more TDs and Carrington had 4.

The point is that this whole narrative about Oregon juniors not declaring because 2017 is gonna be special is bullshit. Carrington was mediocre and likely wouldn't have been drafted.

Could he work harder than ever this summer, avoid rhabdo, and come back to post a monster Senior season? Sure.gif.

But he could also fail a drug test anf quit football. The point is he hasn't yet been the dominant and nfl-bound WR that fans want him to be.

Yeah, but that's not the narrative. It's your report of the narrative.

Two points have been made:

(1) it was a boost to Oregon's 2017 campaign that he returned; and (2) he could have been drafted. (1) is obvious. Nobody said 2017 was going to be sheshul. Just that it's a big return for them, and it is. Hard to argue otherwise.

(2) we're never going to finish this math proof. Oregon was a dumpster fire last year, and having a kid who can't throw playing the first five games is a realistic explanation for why one guy's stats are down. Maybe he was throwing more underneath stuff to Nelson. Maybe he was throwing to the backs more. I don't know. It became abundantly clear early on that Prukop was not a good passer so the downfield stuff was not at all what it had been, and Carrington is a downfield receiver.

I'm not talking about any of that 'could have' shit. That's your deal. I'm simply saying that you're wrong when you say he had a good freshman year and hasn't gotten better. He matched his 2014 production in 2015, and exceeded in TDs, all while playing 3 fewer games. 2016 was a problem year. Maybe he was part of the problem and mailed it in when he saw where the team was going. Oregon was a mess last season; trying to make an argument that they weren't is working too hard. I almost stopped reading after "regardless of who the QB was," which reminded me of the Mrs. Lincoln saying. There are a lot of reasons why a kid's stats can go down. He caught more passes for fewer yds. per catch ... could it be a function of how their offense was functioning last year? Yeah, probably. I don't think he got shitty all of sudden.

The kid averaged close to 20 YPC his freshman and sophomore year. You want to write him off as mediocre, go ahead. I doubt a single DC in the Pac 12 would agree with your assessment when planning for Oregon.

RoadDawg55 said:

creepycoug said:

FremontTroll said:

All of his numbers were down significantly on a per game basis in 2016.

Regardless of who the qb was UO completed more passes in 2016 and threw for more yards per game than 2015.

Obviously there was more talent to compete with for targets in 2014 than 2016. Six guys caught 5 or more TDs and Carrington had 4.

The point is that this whole narrative about Oregon juniors not declaring because 2017 is gonna be special is bullshit. Carrington was mediocre and likely wouldn't have been drafted.

Could he work harder than ever this summer, avoid rhabdo, and come back to post a monster Senior season? Sure.gif.

But he could also fail a drug test anf quit football. The point is he hasn't yet been the dominant and nfl-bound WR that fans want him to be.

Yeah, but that's not the narrative. It's your report of the narrative.

Two points have been made:

(1) it was a boost to Oregon's 2017 campaign that he returned; and (2) he could have been drafted. (1) is obvious. Nobody said 2017 was going to be sheshul. Just that it's a big return for them, and it is. Hard to argue otherwise.

(2) we're never going to finish this math proof. Oregon was a dumpster fire last year, and having a kid who can't throw playing the first five games is a realistic explanation for why one guy's stats are down. Maybe he was throwing more underneath stuff to Nelson. Maybe he was throwing to the backs more. I don't know. It became abundantly clear early on that Prukop was not a good passer so the downfield stuff was not at all what it had been, and Carrington is a downfield receiver.

I'm not talking about any of that 'could have' shit. That's your deal. I'm simply saying that you're wrong when you say he had a good freshman year and hasn't gotten better. He matched his 2014 production in 2015, and exceeded in TDs, all while playing 3 fewer games. 2016 was a problem year. Maybe he was part of the problem and mailed it in when he saw where the team was going. Oregon was a mess last season; trying to make an argument that they weren't is working too hard. I almost stopped reading after "regardless of who the QB was," which reminded me of the Mrs. Lincoln saying. There are a lot of reasons why a kid's stats can go down. He caught more passes for fewer yds. per catch ... could it be a function of how their offense was functioning last year? Yeah, probably. I don't think he got shitty all of sudden.

The kid averaged close to 20 YPC his freshman and sophomore year. You want to write him off as mediocre, go ahead. I doubt a single DC in the Pac 12 would agree with your assessment when planning for Oregon.

Didn't you used to make fun of doogs for being obsessed with Oregon?

Fucks sake Creep, I think Carrington is good too, but how many threads are you going to post about him?

And still do ....

Fair poont. If Freemont came back with another volley, I had already planned to relent. Truthfully, my line of interest in Carrington was passed five poasts ago.

creepycoug said:

RoadDawg55 said:

creepycoug said:

FremontTroll said:

All of his numbers were down significantly on a per game basis in 2016.

Regardless of who the qb was UO completed more passes in 2016 and threw for more yards per game than 2015.

Obviously there was more talent to compete with for targets in 2014 than 2016. Six guys caught 5 or more TDs and Carrington had 4.

The point is that this whole narrative about Oregon juniors not declaring because 2017 is gonna be special is bullshit. Carrington was mediocre and likely wouldn't have been drafted.

Could he work harder than ever this summer, avoid rhabdo, and come back to post a monster Senior season? Sure.gif.

But he could also fail a drug test anf quit football. The point is he hasn't yet been the dominant and nfl-bound WR that fans want him to be.

Yeah, but that's not the narrative. It's your report of the narrative.

Two points have been made:

(1) it was a boost to Oregon's 2017 campaign that he returned; and (2) he could have been drafted. (1) is obvious. Nobody said 2017 was going to be sheshul. Just that it's a big return for them, and it is. Hard to argue otherwise.

(2) we're never going to finish this math proof. Oregon was a dumpster fire last year, and having a kid who can't throw playing the first five games is a realistic explanation for why one guy's stats are down. Maybe he was throwing more underneath stuff to Nelson. Maybe he was throwing to the backs more. I don't know. It became abundantly clear early on that Prukop was not a good passer so the downfield stuff was not at all what it had been, and Carrington is a downfield receiver.

I'm not talking about any of that 'could have' shit. That's your deal. I'm simply saying that you're wrong when you say he had a good freshman year and hasn't gotten better. He matched his 2014 production in 2015, and exceeded in TDs, all while playing 3 fewer games. 2016 was a problem year. Maybe he was part of the problem and mailed it in when he saw where the team was going. Oregon was a mess last season; trying to make an argument that they weren't is working too hard. I almost stopped reading after "regardless of who the QB was," which reminded me of the Mrs. Lincoln saying. There are a lot of reasons why a kid's stats can go down. He caught more passes for fewer yds. per catch ... could it be a function of how their offense was functioning last year? Yeah, probably. I don't think he got shitty all of sudden.

The kid averaged close to 20 YPC his freshman and sophomore year. You want to write him off as mediocre, go ahead. I doubt a single DC in the Pac 12 would agree with your assessment when planning for Oregon.

Didn't you used to make fun of doogs for being obsessed with Oregon?

Fucks sake Creep, I think Carrington is good too, but how many threads are you going to post about him?

And still do ....

Fair poont. If Freemont came back with another volley, I had already planned to relent. Truthfully, my line of interest in Carrington was passed five poasts ago.

Still sounds like you care