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Trump's polls in the gutter

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  • dhdawgdhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    doogie said:

    Tulsi' biggest problem is that she is. GOP'er running as a Dem because that what winners do in Hawaii today.

    She will struggle mightily with Dem party support, when it's crunch time

    she's not a gop'er. she will be perceived as such but she's a cosponsor on single payer healthcare, liberal on social issues, and extremely progressive on the environment, and an anti-interventionist.

    I agree a primary would be far tougher for her than a general

  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
  • dhdawgdhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    the dem loyalists hate people like her, but a Bernie endorsement could push her over the top because the liberal base likes her.
  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
    I would love to see her currently crafted image secure your vote.

    Bernie was never going to and never will win the Presidency.
  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 21,964 Founders Club
    doogie said:

    I would love to see her currently crafted image secure your vote.

    Bernie was never going to and never will win the Presidency.



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    Bernie would have taken back the anti-establishment, libertarian middle that Trump rode to victory. The same group he abandon in the first 100 days.

    Simple fact.
  • BearsWiinBearsWiin Member Posts: 5,040
    pawz said:



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    Bloomberg would have taken the anti-establishment, libertarian middle that Trump rode to victory. The same group he abandon in the first 100 days.

    Simple fact.
    Fixed. Bernie was never going to win that election.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,823
    pawz said:



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    Bernie would have taken back the anti-establishment, libertarian middle that Trump rode to victory. The same group he abandon in the first 100 days.

    Simple fact.
    What? I don't know any libertarians that voted for Trump, or would have voted for Bern.
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,553
    edited April 2017
    pawz said:



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    Bernie would have taken back the anti-establishment, libertarian middle that Trump rode to victory. The same group he abandon in the first 100 days.

    Simple fact.
    He'd be polling great until he proposed how we were going to pay for all the "free" shit.

    I'm sure middle America would love to see their taxes go up 10% so entitled/lazy millennials can have their free education, while they're paying back their school loans. Bring back the draft...
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 110,096 Founders Club

    REAL libertarians hate both of them.

    And again, how anti-establishment can one be after being in Congress since 1991?
    REAL libertarians love losing

    Maybe run a REAL candidate someday
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    REAL libertarians love losing

    Maybe run a REAL candidate someday
    That's the major problem with our? party. Great ideas, terrible candidates.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,346
    Entitled!

    Millennials!

    Rabble rabble rabble!
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,896
    dhdawg said:

    I like that he's not cutting those programs. It's just convinient that we only worry about deficits and costs when a democrat is in office
    When we double an already engorged deficit, that's when people pay attention to what the President is doing.
  • allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    That's the major problem with our? party. Great ideas, terrible candidates.
    Debatable.
  • allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    He'd be polling great until he proposed how we were going to pay for all the "free" shit.

    I'm sure middle America would love to see their taxes go up 10% so entitled/lazy millennials can have their free education, while they're paying back their school loans. Bring back the draft...
    Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country. People like to pretend that Americans are all selfish assholes that would never sacrifice for their country. I disagree.

    Besides the media already tried that trick with Bernie. When explaining universal healthcare during a debate he said your taxes would go up but you'd save money because you wouldn't be paying for health insurance. Every headline read, BERNIE ADMITS HES GOING TO RAISE YOUR TAXES. He's still the most popular politician in America.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 110,096 Founders Club

    Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country. People like to pretend that Americans are all selfish assholes that would never sacrifice for their country. I disagree.

    Besides the media already tried that trick with Bernie. When explaining universal healthcare during a debate he said your taxes would go up but you'd save money because you wouldn't be paying for health insurance. Every headline read, BERNIE ADMITS HES GOING TO RAISE YOUR TAXES. He's still the most popular politician in America.
    I think we have discussed that it is the lazy entitled millennials that fought the two wars we are in. Volunteer army at that.

    Millennials have a thirst for service in all areas not seen since the younger days of the boomers.

    The generations in between are just fucking worthless. That's why we aren't going to die and let them take over. We'll wait.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 35,533 Standard Supporter

    Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country. People like to pretend that Americans are all selfish assholes that would never sacrifice for their country. I disagree.

    Besides the media already tried that trick with Bernie. When explaining universal healthcare during a debate he said your taxes would go up but you'd save money because you wouldn't be paying for health insurance. Every headline read, BERNIE ADMITS HES GOING TO RAISE YOUR TAXES. He's still the most popular politician in America.
    If true that America wants communism is scarier than 8 years of Hillary.
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,553

    Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country. People like to pretend that Americans are all selfish assholes that would never sacrifice for their country. I disagree.

    Besides the media already tried that trick with Bernie. When explaining universal healthcare during a debate he said your taxes would go up but you'd save money because you wouldn't be paying for health insurance. Every headline read, BERNIE ADMITS HES GOING TO RAISE YOUR TAXES. He's still the most popular politician in America.
    I've always been in favor of a hybrid system. Universal basic healthcare, with privately sold tax deductible insurance plans.

    My main point is that it's difficult to be ok with paying for free college of others while we are writing $700 monthly student loan payback checks. These students can take loans just like we did. It's a little pathetic to see how weak our young people have become.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457


    I've always been in favor of a hybrid system. Universal basic healthcare, with privately sold tax deductible insurance plans.

    My main point is that it's difficult to be ok with paying for free college of others while we are writing $700 monthly student loan payback checks. These students can take loans just like we did. It's a little pathetic to see how weak our young people have become.
    Said every older generation.
  • allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771


    I've always been in favor of a hybrid system. Universal basic healthcare, with privately sold tax deductible insurance plans.

    My main point is that it's difficult to be ok with paying for free college of others while we are writing $700 monthly student loan payback checks. These students can take loans just like we did. It's a little pathetic to see how weak our young people have become.
    I think it's a little hypocritical to call millennials weak while crying about how difficult it is that making college free now wouldn't be fair. Life's not fair, buck up.

    What's better for our country, young people having to start their adult lives with a huge amount of debt or not? If the answer is not, then college should be free so people don't have to start their lives in debt. We can afford it as a country. There's precedent for it because we already pay for K-12. Now yes, in the short term, the people that already have student loan debt are getting a raw deal. But you gotta ask yourself, do you love this country or do you only love what this country gives you? Because if it's all about you, the individual, and what this country can do for you then you don't love this country at all. When you genuinely love something you're willing to sacrifice for it. Ask what you can do for your country.
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