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  • Intersectional_Dawg
    Intersectional_Dawg Member Posts: 524
    dhdawg said:

    NEsnake12 said:

    dhdawg said:

    Tulsi Gabbard would be a nightmare for trump to run against. strong, progressive, principled. my guess is she runs in 2020 and the democratic party smears her to ensure some corrupt asshole like Andrew Cuomo or Cory Booker is the nominee.

    Tulsi is by far the Dem's best and most realistic chance at beating Trump in 2020. But it'll be a rough road out of the primary process, which is still broken as fuck. She'd need a full fledged endorsement from Bernie to secure the progressive base 100%, and be able to dodge all the inevitable attacks that would come at her, namely:

    - Meeting with Assad in Syria a few months back and raising skepticism about whether he was behind the recent chemical weapon attakcs
    - The fact that she's close with Steve Bannon. Has met with him many times and didn't oppose his appointment to the NSC.

    The shittiest part of Dem establishment will desperately try to attack her on those points... for example:


    But if the party is truly broken like APAG thinks it is, she has a shot.
    Tulsi is an Assad-apologizing, anti gay, Hindu supremacist. I'll pass.
    thanks neera tanden
    I feel sorry for people like you that think they've cracked the political nut, but in fact are hopelessly compromised in their morality. I'll never vote for anyone that gave even lip service to Assad. Same for those that swallowed the Saudi line on Yemen. That means no Gabbard, no Trump, no Clinton. Bernie has the moral certitude at least to denounce the Syrian dictatorship without equivocating.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326

    dhdawg said:

    NEsnake12 said:

    dhdawg said:

    Tulsi Gabbard would be a nightmare for trump to run against. strong, progressive, principled. my guess is she runs in 2020 and the democratic party smears her to ensure some corrupt asshole like Andrew Cuomo or Cory Booker is the nominee.

    Tulsi is by far the Dem's best and most realistic chance at beating Trump in 2020. But it'll be a rough road out of the primary process, which is still broken as fuck. She'd need a full fledged endorsement from Bernie to secure the progressive base 100%, and be able to dodge all the inevitable attacks that would come at her, namely:

    - Meeting with Assad in Syria a few months back and raising skepticism about whether he was behind the recent chemical weapon attakcs
    - The fact that she's close with Steve Bannon. Has met with him many times and didn't oppose his appointment to the NSC.

    The shittiest part of Dem establishment will desperately try to attack her on those points... for example:


    But if the party is truly broken like APAG thinks it is, she has a shot.
    Tulsi is an Assad-apologizing, anti gay, Hindu supremacist. I'll pass.
    thanks neera tanden
    I feel sorry for people like you that think they've cracked the political nut, but in fact are hopelessly compromised in their morality. I'll never vote for anyone that gave even lip service to Assad. Same for those that swallowed the Saudi line on Yemen. That means no Gabbard, no Trump, no Clinton. Bernie has the moral certitude at least to denounce the Syrian dictatorship without equivocating.
    her recent bill on terrorism cracked down on the Saudi's support for AQAP. So I'm not sure what you mean by swallowing the Saudi line in yemen.

    She also says assad is a dictator. But says it isn't in our best interest to intervene.

  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919
    edited April 2017
    dnc said:

    dhdawg said:

    salemcoog said:

    dhdawg said:

    dhdawg said:

    a ton of the loss from the democratic party's popularity has been among their own base.
    yet the same assholes who got us in this mess refuse to GTFO and leave. now Chelsea is running for congress? fuck off.

    a message must be sent in the 2018 primary to avoid a catastrophe. The corrupt, tired, weak, unlikeable party establishment must go.
    Bernie Sanders meanwhile is the most popular politician in America who wants to help them and they just want to spit in his eye because "he's not a real dem!" (aka not a hopeless loser like you guys).

    Tulsi Gabbard would be a nightmare for trump to run against. strong, progressive, principled. my guess is she runs in 2020 and the democratic party smears her to ensure some corrupt asshole like Andrew Cuomo or Cory Booker is the nominee.

    I'm sick of seeing Nancy Pelosi's ugly face used in ad's against the democratic party when no one in the base even likes Pelosi to begin with

    Everybody loves the senile offensive line coach but nobody wants to actually see him running the show.
    I think you're just bitter that your non establishment candidate was extinguished and Bernie keeps on burning.

    He's not popular because he's not Trump, being not Trump doesn't work as my original post showed. The dems were banking on being not Trump and now they're even loss popular. Bernie is popular because he ran on a bunch of policies that are hugely popular. It just took America a little while to figure it out because the @dnc and media were playing defense against him.
    It's not just the policies. It's because he actually comes across as honest and someone who cares about the people.
    Because he does
    No matter the co$t$.
    Your guy wants to cut taxes "massively" raise defense spending and pay for a useless wall all the while making no cuts to medicare and social security
    Don't blame Salem, he voted for Killary
    This guy gets it and is id22 dialed in.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919
    edited April 2017
    dhdawg said:

    salemcoog said:

    dhdawg said:

    dhdawg said:

    a ton of the loss from the democratic party's popularity has been among their own base.
    yet the same assholes who got us in this mess refuse to GTFO and leave. now Chelsea is running for congress? fuck off.

    a message must be sent in the 2018 primary to avoid a catastrophe. The corrupt, tired, weak, unlikeable party establishment must go.
    Bernie Sanders meanwhile is the most popular politician in America who wants to help them and they just want to spit in his eye because "he's not a real dem!" (aka not a hopeless loser like you guys).

    Tulsi Gabbard would be a nightmare for trump to run against. strong, progressive, principled. my guess is she runs in 2020 and the democratic party smears her to ensure some corrupt asshole like Andrew Cuomo or Cory Booker is the nominee.

    I'm sick of seeing Nancy Pelosi's ugly face used in ad's against the democratic party when no one in the base even likes Pelosi to begin with

    Everybody loves the senile offensive line coach but nobody wants to actually see him running the show.
    I think you're just bitter that your non establishment candidate was extinguished and Bernie keeps on burning.

    He's not popular because he's not Trump, being not Trump doesn't work as my original post showed. The dems were banking on being not Trump and now they're even loss popular. Bernie is popular because he ran on a bunch of policies that are hugely popular. It just took America a little while to figure it out because the @dnc and media were playing defense against him.
    It's not just the policies. It's because he actually comes across as honest and someone who cares about the people.
    Because he does
    No matter the co$t$.
    Your guy wants to cut taxes "massively" raise defense spending and pay for a useless wall all the while making no cuts to medicare and social security
    It's because he doesn't want your Children to have to learn some Mandarin dialect. And how is not cutting medicare and Social Security somehow not caring about people???? It's almost like @dhdawg cares more about fence jumpers and tunnel diggers moar than his own family.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,602 Standard Supporter
    PurpleJ said:

    I thank Killary and her goon squad for keeping that commie loon out of the race.

    I think they murdered enough detractors and leakers to effect the election!
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,773
    Sledog said:

    PurpleJ said:

    I thank Killary and her goon squad for keeping that commie loon out of the race.

    I think they murdered enough detractors and leakers to effect the election!
    Then they blamed it on Russia when they failed! SAD!
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    salemcoog said:

    dhdawg said:

    salemcoog said:

    dhdawg said:

    dhdawg said:

    a ton of the loss from the democratic party's popularity has been among their own base.
    yet the same assholes who got us in this mess refuse to GTFO and leave. now Chelsea is running for congress? fuck off.

    a message must be sent in the 2018 primary to avoid a catastrophe. The corrupt, tired, weak, unlikeable party establishment must go.
    Bernie Sanders meanwhile is the most popular politician in America who wants to help them and they just want to spit in his eye because "he's not a real dem!" (aka not a hopeless loser like you guys).

    Tulsi Gabbard would be a nightmare for trump to run against. strong, progressive, principled. my guess is she runs in 2020 and the democratic party smears her to ensure some corrupt asshole like Andrew Cuomo or Cory Booker is the nominee.

    I'm sick of seeing Nancy Pelosi's ugly face used in ad's against the democratic party when no one in the base even likes Pelosi to begin with

    Everybody loves the senile offensive line coach but nobody wants to actually see him running the show.
    I think you're just bitter that your non establishment candidate was extinguished and Bernie keeps on burning.

    He's not popular because he's not Trump, being not Trump doesn't work as my original post showed. The dems were banking on being not Trump and now they're even loss popular. Bernie is popular because he ran on a bunch of policies that are hugely popular. It just took America a little while to figure it out because the @dnc and media were playing defense against him.
    It's not just the policies. It's because he actually comes across as honest and someone who cares about the people.
    Because he does
    No matter the co$t$.
    Your guy wants to cut taxes "massively" raise defense spending and pay for a useless wall all the while making no cuts to medicare and social security
    It's because he doesn't want your Children to have to learn some Mandarin dialect. And how is not cutting medicare and Social Security somehow not caring about people???? It's almost like @dhdawg cares more about fence jumpers and tunnel diggers moar than his own family.
    I like that he's not cutting those programs. It's just convinient that we only worry about deficits and costs when a democrat is in office
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,553 Founders Club
    The number to watch and that is climbing is how Americans feel about the future and the economy.

    If we hit 4% or more growth its over for 2020 anyway
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    The number to watch and that is climbing is how Americans feel about the future and the economy.

    If we hit 4% or more growth its over for 2020 anyway

    If it hits 4%, I'm sure you'll complain about inflation still.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Tulsi' biggest problem is that she is. GOP'er running as a Dem because that what winners do in Hawaii today.

    She will struggle mightily with Dem party support, when it's crunch time