Trump's polls in the gutter
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I feel sorry for people like you that think they've cracked the political nut, but in fact are hopelessly compromised in their morality. I'll never vote for anyone that gave even lip service to Assad. Same for those that swallowed the Saudi line on Yemen. That means no Gabbard, no Trump, no Clinton. Bernie has the moral certitude at least to denounce the Syrian dictatorship without equivocating.dhdawg said:
thanks neera tandenIntersectional_Dawg said:
Tulsi is an Assad-apologizing, anti gay, Hindu supremacist. I'll pass.NEsnake12 said:
Tulsi is by far the Dem's best and most realistic chance at beating Trump in 2020. But it'll be a rough road out of the primary process, which is still broken as fuck. She'd need a full fledged endorsement from Bernie to secure the progressive base 100%, and be able to dodge all the inevitable attacks that would come at her, namely:dhdawg said:Tulsi Gabbard would be a nightmare for trump to run against. strong, progressive, principled. my guess is she runs in 2020 and the democratic party smears her to ensure some corrupt asshole like Andrew Cuomo or Cory Booker is the nominee.
- Meeting with Assad in Syria a few months back and raising skepticism about whether he was behind the recent chemical weapon attakcs
- The fact that she's close with Steve Bannon. Has met with him many times and didn't oppose his appointment to the NSC.
The shittiest part of Dem establishment will desperately try to attack her on those points... for example:
But if the party is truly broken like APAG thinks it is, she has a shot. -
her recent bill on terrorism cracked down on the Saudi's support for AQAP. So I'm not sure what you mean by swallowing the Saudi line in yemen.Intersectional_Dawg said:
I feel sorry for people like you that think they've cracked the political nut, but in fact are hopelessly compromised in their morality. I'll never vote for anyone that gave even lip service to Assad. Same for those that swallowed the Saudi line on Yemen. That means no Gabbard, no Trump, no Clinton. Bernie has the moral certitude at least to denounce the Syrian dictatorship without equivocating.dhdawg said:
thanks neera tandenIntersectional_Dawg said:
Tulsi is an Assad-apologizing, anti gay, Hindu supremacist. I'll pass.NEsnake12 said:
Tulsi is by far the Dem's best and most realistic chance at beating Trump in 2020. But it'll be a rough road out of the primary process, which is still broken as fuck. She'd need a full fledged endorsement from Bernie to secure the progressive base 100%, and be able to dodge all the inevitable attacks that would come at her, namely:dhdawg said:Tulsi Gabbard would be a nightmare for trump to run against. strong, progressive, principled. my guess is she runs in 2020 and the democratic party smears her to ensure some corrupt asshole like Andrew Cuomo or Cory Booker is the nominee.
- Meeting with Assad in Syria a few months back and raising skepticism about whether he was behind the recent chemical weapon attakcs
- The fact that she's close with Steve Bannon. Has met with him many times and didn't oppose his appointment to the NSC.
The shittiest part of Dem establishment will desperately try to attack her on those points... for example:
But if the party is truly broken like APAG thinks it is, she has a shot.
She also says assad is a dictator. But says it isn't in our best interest to intervene.
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This guy gets it and is id22 dialed in.dnc said:
Don't blame Salem, he voted for Killarydhdawg said:
Your guy wants to cut taxes "massively" raise defense spending and pay for a useless wall all the while making no cuts to medicare and social securitysalemcoog said:
No matter the co$t$.dhdawg said:
It's not just the policies. It's because he actually comes across as honest and someone who cares about the people.allpurpleallgold said:
I think you're just bitter that your non establishment candidate was extinguished and Bernie keeps on burning.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Everybody loves the senile offensive line coach but nobody wants to actually see him running the show.dhdawg said:a ton of the loss from the democratic party's popularity has been among their own base.
yet the same assholes who got us in this mess refuse to GTFO and leave. now Chelsea is running for congress? fuck off.
a message must be sent in the 2018 primary to avoid a catastrophe. The corrupt, tired, weak, unlikeable party establishment must go.
Bernie Sanders meanwhile is the most popular politician in America who wants to help them and they just want to spit in his eye because "he's not a real dem!" (aka not a hopeless loser like you guys).
Tulsi Gabbard would be a nightmare for trump to run against. strong, progressive, principled. my guess is she runs in 2020 and the democratic party smears her to ensure some corrupt asshole like Andrew Cuomo or Cory Booker is the nominee.
I'm sick of seeing Nancy Pelosi's ugly face used in ad's against the democratic party when no one in the base even likes Pelosi to begin with
He's not popular because he's not Trump, being not Trump doesn't work as my original post showed. The dems were banking on being not Trump and now they're even loss popular. Bernie is popular because he ran on a bunch of policies that are hugely popular. It just took America a little while to figure it out because the @dnc and media were playing defense against him.
Because he does -
It's because he doesn't want your Children to have to learn some Mandarin dialect. And how is not cutting medicare and Social Security somehow not caring about people???? It's almost like @dhdawg cares more about fence jumpers and tunnel diggers moar than his own family.dhdawg said:
Your guy wants to cut taxes "massively" raise defense spending and pay for a useless wall all the while making no cuts to medicare and social securitysalemcoog said:
No matter the co$t$.dhdawg said:
It's not just the policies. It's because he actually comes across as honest and someone who cares about the people.allpurpleallgold said:
I think you're just bitter that your non establishment candidate was extinguished and Bernie keeps on burning.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Everybody loves the senile offensive line coach but nobody wants to actually see him running the show.dhdawg said:a ton of the loss from the democratic party's popularity has been among their own base.
yet the same assholes who got us in this mess refuse to GTFO and leave. now Chelsea is running for congress? fuck off.
a message must be sent in the 2018 primary to avoid a catastrophe. The corrupt, tired, weak, unlikeable party establishment must go.
Bernie Sanders meanwhile is the most popular politician in America who wants to help them and they just want to spit in his eye because "he's not a real dem!" (aka not a hopeless loser like you guys).
Tulsi Gabbard would be a nightmare for trump to run against. strong, progressive, principled. my guess is she runs in 2020 and the democratic party smears her to ensure some corrupt asshole like Andrew Cuomo or Cory Booker is the nominee.
I'm sick of seeing Nancy Pelosi's ugly face used in ad's against the democratic party when no one in the base even likes Pelosi to begin with
He's not popular because he's not Trump, being not Trump doesn't work as my original post showed. The dems were banking on being not Trump and now they're even loss popular. Bernie is popular because he ran on a bunch of policies that are hugely popular. It just took America a little while to figure it out because the @dnc and media were playing defense against him.
Because he does -
I think they murdered enough detractors and leakers to effect the election!PurpleJ said:I thank Killary and her goon squad for keeping that commie loon out of the race.
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I like that he's not cutting those programs. It's just convinient that we only worry about deficits and costs when a democrat is in officesalemcoog said:
It's because he doesn't want your Children to have to learn some Mandarin dialect. And how is not cutting medicare and Social Security somehow not caring about people???? It's almost like @dhdawg cares more about fence jumpers and tunnel diggers moar than his own family.dhdawg said:
Your guy wants to cut taxes "massively" raise defense spending and pay for a useless wall all the while making no cuts to medicare and social securitysalemcoog said:
No matter the co$t$.dhdawg said:
It's not just the policies. It's because he actually comes across as honest and someone who cares about the people.allpurpleallgold said:
I think you're just bitter that your non establishment candidate was extinguished and Bernie keeps on burning.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Everybody loves the senile offensive line coach but nobody wants to actually see him running the show.dhdawg said:a ton of the loss from the democratic party's popularity has been among their own base.
yet the same assholes who got us in this mess refuse to GTFO and leave. now Chelsea is running for congress? fuck off.
a message must be sent in the 2018 primary to avoid a catastrophe. The corrupt, tired, weak, unlikeable party establishment must go.
Bernie Sanders meanwhile is the most popular politician in America who wants to help them and they just want to spit in his eye because "he's not a real dem!" (aka not a hopeless loser like you guys).
Tulsi Gabbard would be a nightmare for trump to run against. strong, progressive, principled. my guess is she runs in 2020 and the democratic party smears her to ensure some corrupt asshole like Andrew Cuomo or Cory Booker is the nominee.
I'm sick of seeing Nancy Pelosi's ugly face used in ad's against the democratic party when no one in the base even likes Pelosi to begin with
He's not popular because he's not Trump, being not Trump doesn't work as my original post showed. The dems were banking on being not Trump and now they're even loss popular. Bernie is popular because he ran on a bunch of policies that are hugely popular. It just took America a little while to figure it out because the @dnc and media were playing defense against him.
Because he does -
The number to watch and that is climbing is how Americans feel about the future and the economy.
If we hit 4% or more growth its over for 2020 anyway -
If it hits 4%, I'm sure you'll complain about inflation still.RaceBannon said:The number to watch and that is climbing is how Americans feel about the future and the economy.
If we hit 4% or more growth its over for 2020 anyway -
Tulsi' biggest problem is that she is. GOP'er running as a Dem because that what winners do in Hawaii today.
She will struggle mightily with Dem party support, when it's crunch time -
she's not a gop'er. she will be perceived as such but she's a cosponsor on single payer healthcare, liberal on social issues, and extremely progressive on the environment, and an anti-interventionist.doogie said:Tulsi' biggest problem is that she is. GOP'er running as a Dem because that what winners do in Hawaii today.
She will struggle mightily with Dem party support, when it's crunch time
I agree a primary would be far tougher for her than a general
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sure. Ok.
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the dem loyalists hate people like her, but a Bernie endorsement could push her over the top because the liberal base likes her.
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I would love to see her currently crafted image secure your vote.
Bernie was never going to and never will win the Presidency. -
doogie said:
I would love to see her currently crafted image secure your vote.
Bernie was never going to and never will win the Presidency.
Bernie would have taken back the anti-establishment, libertarian middle that Trump rode to victory. The same group he abandon in the first 100 days.
Simple fact. -
Fixed. Bernie was never going to win that election.pawz said:doogie said:I would love to see her currently crafted image secure your vote.
Bernie was never going to and never will win the Presidency.
Bloomberg would have taken the anti-establishment, libertarian middle that Trump rode to victory. The same group he abandon in the first 100 days.
Simple fact. -
What? I don't know any libertarians that voted for Trump, or would have voted for Bern.pawz said:doogie said:I would love to see her currently crafted image secure your vote.
Bernie was never going to and never will win the Presidency.
Bernie would have taken back the anti-establishment, libertarian middle that Trump rode to victory. The same group he abandon in the first 100 days.
Simple fact. -
REAL libertarians hate both of them.dnc said:
What? I don't know any libertarians that voted for Trump, or would have voted for Bern.pawz said:doogie said:I would love to see her currently crafted image secure your vote.
Bernie was never going to and never will win the Presidency.
Bernie would have taken back the anti-establishment, libertarian middle that Trump rode to victory. The same group he abandon in the first 100 days.
Simple fact.
And again, how anti-establishment can one be after being in Congress since 1991? -
He'd be polling great until he proposed how we were going to pay for all the "free" shit.pawz said:doogie said:I would love to see her currently crafted image secure your vote.
Bernie was never going to and never will win the Presidency.
Bernie would have taken back the anti-establishment, libertarian middle that Trump rode to victory. The same group he abandon in the first 100 days.
Simple fact.
I'm sure middle America would love to see their taxes go up 10% so entitled/lazy millennials can have their free education, while they're paying back their school loans. Bring back the draft... -
REAL libertarians love losingGrundleStiltzkin said:
REAL libertarians hate both of them.dnc said:
What? I don't know any libertarians that voted for Trump, or would have voted for Bern.pawz said:doogie said:I would love to see her currently crafted image secure your vote.
Bernie was never going to and never will win the Presidency.
Bernie would have taken back the anti-establishment, libertarian middle that Trump rode to victory. The same group he abandon in the first 100 days.
Simple fact.
And again, how anti-establishment can one be after being in Congress since 1991?
Maybe run a REAL candidate someday -
That's the major problem with our? party. Great ideas, terrible candidates.RaceBannon said:
REAL libertarians love losingGrundleStiltzkin said:
REAL libertarians hate both of them.dnc said:
What? I don't know any libertarians that voted for Trump, or would have voted for Bern.pawz said:doogie said:I would love to see her currently crafted image secure your vote.
Bernie was never going to and never will win the Presidency.
Bernie would have taken back the anti-establishment, libertarian middle that Trump rode to victory. The same group he abandon in the first 100 days.
Simple fact.
And again, how anti-establishment can one be after being in Congress since 1991?
Maybe run a REAL candidate someday -
Entitled!
Millennials!
Rabble rabble rabble! -
When we double an already engorged deficit, that's when people pay attention to what the President is doing.dhdawg said:
I like that he's not cutting those programs. It's just convinient that we only worry about deficits and costs when a democrat is in officesalemcoog said:
It's because he doesn't want your Children to have to learn some Mandarin dialect. And how is not cutting medicare and Social Security somehow not caring about people???? It's almost like @dhdawg cares more about fence jumpers and tunnel diggers moar than his own family.dhdawg said:
Your guy wants to cut taxes "massively" raise defense spending and pay for a useless wall all the while making no cuts to medicare and social securitysalemcoog said:
No matter the co$t$.dhdawg said:
It's not just the policies. It's because he actually comes across as honest and someone who cares about the people.allpurpleallgold said:
I think you're just bitter that your non establishment candidate was extinguished and Bernie keeps on burning.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Everybody loves the senile offensive line coach but nobody wants to actually see him running the show.dhdawg said:a ton of the loss from the democratic party's popularity has been among their own base.
yet the same assholes who got us in this mess refuse to GTFO and leave. now Chelsea is running for congress? fuck off.
a message must be sent in the 2018 primary to avoid a catastrophe. The corrupt, tired, weak, unlikeable party establishment must go.
Bernie Sanders meanwhile is the most popular politician in America who wants to help them and they just want to spit in his eye because "he's not a real dem!" (aka not a hopeless loser like you guys).
Tulsi Gabbard would be a nightmare for trump to run against. strong, progressive, principled. my guess is she runs in 2020 and the democratic party smears her to ensure some corrupt asshole like Andrew Cuomo or Cory Booker is the nominee.
I'm sick of seeing Nancy Pelosi's ugly face used in ad's against the democratic party when no one in the base even likes Pelosi to begin with
He's not popular because he's not Trump, being not Trump doesn't work as my original post showed. The dems were banking on being not Trump and now they're even loss popular. Bernie is popular because he ran on a bunch of policies that are hugely popular. It just took America a little while to figure it out because the @dnc and media were playing defense against him.
Because he does -
Debatable.GrundleStiltzkin said:
That's the major problem with our? party. Great ideas, terrible candidates.RaceBannon said:
REAL libertarians love losingGrundleStiltzkin said:
REAL libertarians hate both of them.dnc said:
What? I don't know any libertarians that voted for Trump, or would have voted for Bern.pawz said:doogie said:I would love to see her currently crafted image secure your vote.
Bernie was never going to and never will win the Presidency.
Bernie would have taken back the anti-establishment, libertarian middle that Trump rode to victory. The same group he abandon in the first 100 days.
Simple fact.
And again, how anti-establishment can one be after being in Congress since 1991?
Maybe run a REAL candidate someday -
Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country. People like to pretend that Americans are all selfish assholes that would never sacrifice for their country. I disagree.greenblood said:
He'd be polling great until he proposed how we were going to pay for all the "free" shit.pawz said:doogie said:I would love to see her currently crafted image secure your vote.
Bernie was never going to and never will win the Presidency.
Bernie would have taken back the anti-establishment, libertarian middle that Trump rode to victory. The same group he abandon in the first 100 days.
Simple fact.
I'm sure middle America would love to see their taxes go up 10% so entitled/lazy millennials can have their free education, while they're paying back their school loans. Bring back the draft...
Besides the media already tried that trick with Bernie. When explaining universal healthcare during a debate he said your taxes would go up but you'd save money because you wouldn't be paying for health insurance. Every headline read, BERNIE ADMITS HES GOING TO RAISE YOUR TAXES. He's still the most popular politician in America. -
I think we have discussed that it is the lazy entitled millennials that fought the two wars we are in. Volunteer army at that.allpurpleallgold said:
Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country. People like to pretend that Americans are all selfish assholes that would never sacrifice for their country. I disagree.greenblood said:
He'd be polling great until he proposed how we were going to pay for all the "free" shit.pawz said:doogie said:I would love to see her currently crafted image secure your vote.
Bernie was never going to and never will win the Presidency.
Bernie would have taken back the anti-establishment, libertarian middle that Trump rode to victory. The same group he abandon in the first 100 days.
Simple fact.
I'm sure middle America would love to see their taxes go up 10% so entitled/lazy millennials can have their free education, while they're paying back their school loans. Bring back the draft...
Besides the media already tried that trick with Bernie. When explaining universal healthcare during a debate he said your taxes would go up but you'd save money because you wouldn't be paying for health insurance. Every headline read, BERNIE ADMITS HES GOING TO RAISE YOUR TAXES. He's still the most popular politician in America.
Millennials have a thirst for service in all areas not seen since the younger days of the boomers.
The generations in between are just fucking worthless. That's why we aren't going to die and let them take over. We'll wait. -
If true that America wants communism is scarier than 8 years of Hillary.allpurpleallgold said:
Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country. People like to pretend that Americans are all selfish assholes that would never sacrifice for their country. I disagree.greenblood said:
He'd be polling great until he proposed how we were going to pay for all the "free" shit.pawz said:doogie said:I would love to see her currently crafted image secure your vote.
Bernie was never going to and never will win the Presidency.
Bernie would have taken back the anti-establishment, libertarian middle that Trump rode to victory. The same group he abandon in the first 100 days.
Simple fact.
I'm sure middle America would love to see their taxes go up 10% so entitled/lazy millennials can have their free education, while they're paying back their school loans. Bring back the draft...
Besides the media already tried that trick with Bernie. When explaining universal healthcare during a debate he said your taxes would go up but you'd save money because you wouldn't be paying for health insurance. Every headline read, BERNIE ADMITS HES GOING TO RAISE YOUR TAXES. He's still the most popular politician in America. -
I've always been in favor of a hybrid system. Universal basic healthcare, with privately sold tax deductible insurance plans.allpurpleallgold said:
Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country. People like to pretend that Americans are all selfish assholes that would never sacrifice for their country. I disagree.greenblood said:
He'd be polling great until he proposed how we were going to pay for all the "free" shit.pawz said:doogie said:I would love to see her currently crafted image secure your vote.
Bernie was never going to and never will win the Presidency.
Bernie would have taken back the anti-establishment, libertarian middle that Trump rode to victory. The same group he abandon in the first 100 days.
Simple fact.
I'm sure middle America would love to see their taxes go up 10% so entitled/lazy millennials can have their free education, while they're paying back their school loans. Bring back the draft...
Besides the media already tried that trick with Bernie. When explaining universal healthcare during a debate he said your taxes would go up but you'd save money because you wouldn't be paying for health insurance. Every headline read, BERNIE ADMITS HES GOING TO RAISE YOUR TAXES. He's still the most popular politician in America.
My main point is that it's difficult to be ok with paying for free college of others while we are writing $700 monthly student loan payback checks. These students can take loans just like we did. It's a little pathetic to see how weak our young people have become. -
Said every older generation.greenblood said:
I've always been in favor of a hybrid system. Universal basic healthcare, with privately sold tax deductible insurance plans.allpurpleallgold said:
Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country. People like to pretend that Americans are all selfish assholes that would never sacrifice for their country. I disagree.greenblood said:
He'd be polling great until he proposed how we were going to pay for all the "free" shit.pawz said:doogie said:I would love to see her currently crafted image secure your vote.
Bernie was never going to and never will win the Presidency.
Bernie would have taken back the anti-establishment, libertarian middle that Trump rode to victory. The same group he abandon in the first 100 days.
Simple fact.
I'm sure middle America would love to see their taxes go up 10% so entitled/lazy millennials can have their free education, while they're paying back their school loans. Bring back the draft...
Besides the media already tried that trick with Bernie. When explaining universal healthcare during a debate he said your taxes would go up but you'd save money because you wouldn't be paying for health insurance. Every headline read, BERNIE ADMITS HES GOING TO RAISE YOUR TAXES. He's still the most popular politician in America.
My main point is that it's difficult to be ok with paying for free college of others while we are writing $700 monthly student loan payback checks. These students can take loans just like we did. It's a little pathetic to see how weak our young people have become. -
I think it's a little hypocritical to call millennials weak while crying about how difficult it is that making college free now wouldn't be fair. Life's not fair, buck up.greenblood said:
I've always been in favor of a hybrid system. Universal basic healthcare, with privately sold tax deductible insurance plans.allpurpleallgold said:
Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country. People like to pretend that Americans are all selfish assholes that would never sacrifice for their country. I disagree.greenblood said:
He'd be polling great until he proposed how we were going to pay for all the "free" shit.pawz said:doogie said:I would love to see her currently crafted image secure your vote.
Bernie was never going to and never will win the Presidency.
Bernie would have taken back the anti-establishment, libertarian middle that Trump rode to victory. The same group he abandon in the first 100 days.
Simple fact.
I'm sure middle America would love to see their taxes go up 10% so entitled/lazy millennials can have their free education, while they're paying back their school loans. Bring back the draft...
Besides the media already tried that trick with Bernie. When explaining universal healthcare during a debate he said your taxes would go up but you'd save money because you wouldn't be paying for health insurance. Every headline read, BERNIE ADMITS HES GOING TO RAISE YOUR TAXES. He's still the most popular politician in America.
My main point is that it's difficult to be ok with paying for free college of others while we are writing $700 monthly student loan payback checks. These students can take loans just like we did. It's a little pathetic to see how weak our young people have become.
What's better for our country, young people having to start their adult lives with a huge amount of debt or not? If the answer is not, then college should be free so people don't have to start their lives in debt. We can afford it as a country. There's precedent for it because we already pay for K-12. Now yes, in the short term, the people that already have student loan debt are getting a raw deal. But you gotta ask yourself, do you love this country or do you only love what this country gives you? Because if it's all about you, the individual, and what this country can do for you then you don't love this country at all. When you genuinely love something you're willing to sacrifice for it. Ask what you can do for your country.
