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10-3 (and a top 15-20 finish) would have to be considered a success, and I don't know how any of you could deny that.
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  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    key word being if. I'll agree with u if it includes also bringing in top lineman in recruiting which is something that should come with 10 wins. However this is all moot cause it's never happening
  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,419
    no one is denying 10-3 would be incremental progress

    see you in two weeks
  • ExtraChrisB
    ExtraChrisB Member Posts: 1,814
    Gladstone said:

    no one is denying 10-3 would be incremental progress

    see you in two weeks

    I think a win in Pasadena makes the OSU game a lock. A loss in Pasadena makes the OSU game a near certain loss IMO. Big game this week.
  • This team is losing their next two games. Sark has proven he can't beat decent/good teams on the road.

    He has only two road wins against teams with winning records in his career. One was against Lane Kiffin and the other was Utah.

    I rest my fucking case.
  • loadsock
    loadsock Member Posts: 686
    10 wins looks impressive to the outsider who doesn't see that we got absolutely destroyed by the more elite teams in the conference. 9 wins will be an easy feat next year when one actually looks at our schedule.

    Nothing can be described as incremental progress until 7 stops getting blown out by Oregon, stops the damn 3-4 game losing streak, and knocks off at least one or 2 of the elite teams in the conference.
  • ExtraChrisB
    ExtraChrisB Member Posts: 1,814
    loadsock said:

    10 wins looks impressive to the outsider who doesn't see that we got absolutely destroyed by the more elite teams in the conference. 9 wins will be an easy feat next year when one actually looks at our schedule.

    Nothing can be described as incremental progress until 7 stops getting blown out by Oregon, stops the damn 3-4 game losing streak, and knocks off at least one or 2 of the elite teams in the conference.

    Hyperbole if I've ever seen it.

    I'm not one to accept moral victories, not at all, but to say we got "absolutely destroyed" is a damn lie. We got blown out in one game (ASU), let another get away from us late (Oregon), and should have beaten the best team in the conference (Stanford).

    I know the doom and gloom is your schtick but come on. Am I happy with the season so far? Hell no. Shit I was calling for Sark's head after ASU. But to argue that winning the final 6 to end the season 10-3 isn't improvement is ludicrous.

    Now, if we come out and shit the bed next week, that changes everything.
  • NeGgaPlEaSe
    NeGgaPlEaSe Member Posts: 5,763
    edited November 2013

    10-3 (and a top 15-20 finish) would have to be considered a success, and I don't know how any of you could deny that.

    10-3 with wins against Idaho, A down Boise State, horrible Colorado and fcktarded Cal that shour be in the WAC and an Illinois team that has not won a big 10 game in how long?

    Yep Washington is back!

  • MisterEm
    MisterEm Member Posts: 6,685
    edited November 2013

    loadsock said:

    10 wins looks impressive to the outsider who doesn't see that we got absolutely destroyed by the more elite teams in the conference. 9 wins will be an easy feat next year when one actually looks at our schedule.

    Nothing can be described as incremental progress until 7 stops getting blown out by Oregon, stops the damn 3-4 game losing streak, and knocks off at least one or 2 of the elite teams in the conference.

    Hyperbole if I've ever seen it.

    I'm not one to accept moral victories, not at all, but to say we got "absolutely destroyed" is a damn lie. We got blown out in one game (ASU), let another get away from us late (Oregon), and should have beaten the best team in the conference (Stanford).
    Dooging it up is your shtick, apparently.

    Unlike Kim G. Or Chris F., the HHB guys like facts and data over context and emotions.

    Facts you should recheck.

    1. Losing by 20 points is an ass kicking any way you spin it - regardless of 3rd quarter scores. Ask any NCAA coach worth his salt and see how they feel about a couple of 20 point whoopings when your team is going Through A "special" season.

    2. I checked espn, NCAA.com, and CFBstats.com. Couldn't find any stats related to score at the end of 3rd quarter? Why don't the professionals keep track of scores after 3 quarters?

    3. Tyrone Willingham took the paltry dogs to a tie score into the 4th against the ranked Ducks in 2007. Final score - a 55-24 plunger rape. So you must like Ty?

    4. The Special Teams stayed home against Stanford and laid an egg. That is a coaching deficiency, not a moral victory.

    5. There are no moral victories in big boy football.

    Looks like doogman is more your style. If you need help around here, PM Irisdoog22. He has this place dialed in.





  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,440 Founders Club
    Did UCLA let the Oregon game "get away from them"?

    No, the Bruins got whipped. But for Sark, it got away from him. Interesting.
  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194
    How can you turn a corner if you are in the same place as ever? We can still beat mediocre teams but not good ones...
  • LevelPar
    LevelPar Member Posts: 447
    Mad_Son said:

    How can you turn a corner if you are in the same place as ever? We can still beat mediocre teams but not good ones...

    It's called running in circles
  • Haid_D_Salaami
    Haid_D_Salaami Member Posts: 541
    UW "turned the corner" on a crisp December night, in San Diego, back in 2010.
    Because THIS is Sark's ceiling. Sure...the occasional 9 or 10 win season will come along. And all the doogs will wet their panties. But even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then.

    No program as soft, undisciplined and lacking in solid fundamental football will ever be a serious national contender.

    And nothing in recent history has given me any reason to believe that Sark will win in either Corvallis or Pasadena

    But hey...anytime you play in Pasadena it's "special" right?
  • gmo
    gmo Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 3,853 Founders Club
    edited November 2013
    so Pac-12 records year to year if we finish out 3-0

    4-5
    5-4
    5-4
    5-4
    6-3

    6-3 should buy him one more year if UW still cared about football. It doesn't so that would buy him another extension.

    I (like just about everyone on here) think we lose 1-2 more which would put us back at 5-4 or 4-5. Rinse repeat for the foreseeable future until we get a real winner to lead the charge.
  • mobey
    mobey Member Posts: 3,254

    loadsock said:

    10 wins looks impressive to the outsider who doesn't see that we got absolutely destroyed by the more elite teams in the conference. 9 wins will be an easy feat next year when one actually looks at our schedule.

    Nothing can be described as incremental progress until 7 stops getting blown out by Oregon, stops the damn 3-4 game losing streak, and knocks off at least one or 2 of the elite teams in the conference.

    Hyperbole if I've ever seen it.

    I'm not one to accept moral victories, not at all, but to say we got "absolutely destroyed" is a damn lie. We got blown out in one game (ASU), let another get away from us late (Oregon), and should have beaten the best team in the conference (Stanford).

    I know the doom and gloom is your schtick but come on. Am I happy with the season so far? Hell no. Shit I was calling for Sark's head after ASU. But to argue that winning the final 6 to end the season 10-3 isn't improvement is ludicrous.

    Now, if we come out and shit the bed next week, that changes everything.
    Yes, hopefully the bowl committee will realize we really only have like one loss, because we kind of beat Stanford if you watched the game and certainly the 21 point loss at home to Oregon was a win because it took them until after half time to finish the job.
  • AlCzervik
    AlCzervik Member Posts: 1,774

    10-3 (and a top 15-20 finish) would have to be considered a success, and I don't know how any of you could deny that.

    I don't deal in hypotheticals.

    Doogs gotta doog.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,141

    10-3 (and a top 15-20 finish) would have to be considered a success, and I don't know how any of you could deny that.

    6-3 in conference play is the bare minimum of incremental progress. I guess it's "success", but it's really shitty success.
    This. It's progress, but who gives a shit? We are still a middle tier team and we be one again next year.

  • This whole what if we win 10 conversation is stupid. Sark has 5 years of data to show he doesn't beat teams like UCLA and Oregon State on the road. I'm sure UW will battle in them but will find a way to lose.

    Doogs will blame the refs, Price, some random assistant coach and ignore that Sark is 7-17 on the road heading into this two game stretch. He'll be 7-19 after this.
  • Your_Mom
    Your_Mom Member Posts: 393

    10-3 (and a top 15-20 finish) would have to be considered a success, and I don't know how any of you could deny that.

    If? Perhaps, but he isn't winning the next 3. I still have questions about Mora, but I doubt Mora loses to Sark in Cali -- might be a different matter in Seattle.

    I also don't see the other two games as gimmies... our D hasn't proven it can stop a high caliber passing attack, and OSU is always a wild card. Our only hope is if our inconsistent offense can put up points, and that seems to change week to week against teams without losing records.

    Sark could easily lose all three, and I'd not be surprised at all.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    Your_Mom said:

    10-3 (and a top 15-20 finish) would have to be considered a success, and I don't know how any of you could deny that.

    If? Perhaps, but he isn't winning the next 3. I still have questions about Mora, but I doubt Mora loses to Sark in Cali -- might be a different matter in Seattle.

    I also don't see the other two games as gimmies... our D hasn't proven it can stop a high caliber passing attack, and OSU is always a wild card. Our only hope is if our inconsistent offense can put up points, and that seems to change week to week against teams without losing records.

    Sark could easily lose all three, and I'd not be surprised at all.
    yep, our clear lack of pass rush really shows when we go up against a pass first offense
  • puppylove_sugarsteel
    puppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133

    loadsock said:

    10 wins looks impressive to the outsider who doesn't see that we got absolutely destroyed by the more elite teams in the conference. 9 wins will be an easy feat next year when one actually looks at our schedule.

    Nothing can be described as incremental progress until 7 stops getting blown out by Oregon, stops the damn 3-4 game losing streak, and knocks off at least one or 2 of the elite teams in the conference.

    Hyperbole if I've ever seen it.

    I'm not one to accept moral victories, not at all, but to say we got "absolutely destroyed" is a damn lie. We got blown out in one game (ASU), let another get away from us late (Oregon), and should have beaten the best team in the conference (Stanford).

    I know the doom and gloom is your schtick but come on. Am I happy with the season so far? Hell no. Shit I was calling for Sark's head after ASU. But to argue that winning the final 6 to end the season 10-3 isn't improvement is ludicrous.

    Now, if we come out and shit the bed next week, that changes everything.
    Stanford is the game that got away because of poor special teams.

    Oregon beat us by 3 TDs. It was a blowout. Sort of keeping within 7-14 pts. for three quarters isn't good enough.

    The ASU game was another humiliation. Sure 10-3 is better, but it's Karl Dorrell better.

    Karl Dorrell Better? Thats awesome Marshall. Love it!
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    10-3 Sark gets a 20 million dollar 5 year extension yes that is exactly what I want. So we can continue to play shitty flag football and never have hopes and admirations for a bowl game that matters ever again.

    Oh whoops I forgot that Cyler Miles is QB next year and that the team won't be young anymore.
  • Homebrew_Dawg
    Homebrew_Dawg Member Posts: 1,652
    WA football needs the equivalent of Operation Valkyrie, but as a successful venture.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    I prefer to think of Sark turning a corner like this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7HydudX2cg