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2018 Recruiting Class Update
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With two commits in just a couple days I thought some might enjoy a look at where we are currently at. With 5 teen bois in on an expected 18ish member class, we're over 25% of the way there (and I feel very good about keeping all 5 kids on bored). So far we're offense heavy with 4 expected offensive players and just one on defense at this point. We also have moved away this week from a white power class to one DDY can take some pride in.
QB - Jacob Sirmon: Scout 4 star (44 overall)/Rivals 4 star (67 overall)/ESPN 4 star (16 overall)/24 4 star (28 overall). Average = 4 star (38.75 overall)
WR1a -Austin Osbourne: Scout 4 star (105 overall)/Rivals 4 star (142 overall)/ESPN 4 star (205 overall)/247 4 star (197 overall). Average = 4 star (162.25 overall)
WR1b - Marquis Spiker: Scout 4 star (87 overall)/Rivals 4 star (104 overall)/ESPN 4 star (91 overall)/247 4 star (82 overall). Average = 4 star (90 overall)
Slot receiver - Trey Lowe (tend to agree with the TSIO guys that he ends up at RB but for now he's being told he's going to play the Chico role and other recruits are being told he's recruited as a WR): Scout 4 star (259 overall)/ Rivals 4 star (230 overall)/ESPN not rated/247 4 star (106 overall). Average = 4 stars (205.8 overall) (on the 3 sites who rank him)
LB - Jackson Sirmon Scout 3 star (unranked)/Rivals 3 star (unranked)/ESPN 3 star (254 overall)/247 4 star (177 overall). Average = 3.25 stars (can't compute overall average with him unranked on half the sites)
Scout and Rivals agree that these guys rank Jake S, Spiker, Osbourne, Lowe, Jack S. ESPN bumps Jack ahead of Lowe. And 247 is the total outlier with their order being Jake S, Spiker, Lowe, Jack S, Osbourne.
This is a great start on a great class. Ultimately I think Jacob Sirmon ends up a 5 star on most sites, with everyone else solid 4 stars besides Jackson. So 1 5 star, 3 4 stars and a 3 star, for a solid 4 star average from these five. Obviously there will be surprises, but here's what I roughly expect to see for the next 13 spots:
QB - none
RB - TreShaun Harrison (also could play safety, or corner)
WR - Michael Wilson
BTE - Devon Culp (ultimately I don't think they take Ezeike and Wilson, and I think Wilson's more likely to commit so I went with him)
WTE - Jake Peters. Guessing his rehab checks out and he moves back up to a 4 star TE.
OL - I'm guessing we take 3 since it's a down year on the WC. Would love Dawson Jaramillo, Justin Dedich and Steven Jones but that's highly unlikely. I'll say Lubick wins over Jaramillo, Huff pulls Chris Murray and we settle for MJ Ale. This wouldn't be a home run but would be a really strong OL class.
That's 11 total recruits on offense which might be one or two too high, but if Harrison or Lowe ends up on defense you're probably fine .
The defensive side is a lot fuzzier for me. Not real confident in most of these calls to follow.
CB - Kyler Gordon becomes my biggest non OL desire in this class. I think he's really important, and they ultimately get him on bored, but probably not until deep into football season. Looks like one of the last two or three commits to me. I'll also predict Braden Lenzy flips to us after Brian Kelly gets fired.
S - Bryan Addison. Really want this kid.
LB - I think we go hard after Jack Lamb but end up settling for Ben Wilson. We'll take one more LB in this class, he'll probably be poly and from Utah, but I have no idea which one.
Buck - Zion Tupuola-Fetui. Learn it. Love it.
DL - We wont' get Togiai unfortunately unless SC self destructs, which I don't see happening until after Darnold goes pro. If Darnold gets hurt early enough Togiai is ours. But that's unlikely, and I don't see a home run DT in the class for us outside of him, so let's say we'll settle for two other Polys here Sam Vakalahi for one and let's hope Hale Motu'apuaka passes the height test for the other.
Obviously this will be mostly wrong, and I cheated and took one more than I aimed for to give us a class of 19. Maybe one of the Utah kids takes a mission. Of those 19, that would be 11 current Scout 4 stars (and I'm guessing at least Peters and Murray will move up).
So yeah that's not all going to come together but I think we get to 10 four stars rather easily. I wouldn't be shocked if this class has 12 or 13. The recruiting lag is real and Petersen is building a monster.
QB - Jacob Sirmon: Scout 4 star (44 overall)/Rivals 4 star (67 overall)/ESPN 4 star (16 overall)/24 4 star (28 overall). Average = 4 star (38.75 overall)
WR1a -Austin Osbourne: Scout 4 star (105 overall)/Rivals 4 star (142 overall)/ESPN 4 star (205 overall)/247 4 star (197 overall). Average = 4 star (162.25 overall)
WR1b - Marquis Spiker: Scout 4 star (87 overall)/Rivals 4 star (104 overall)/ESPN 4 star (91 overall)/247 4 star (82 overall). Average = 4 star (90 overall)
Slot receiver - Trey Lowe (tend to agree with the TSIO guys that he ends up at RB but for now he's being told he's going to play the Chico role and other recruits are being told he's recruited as a WR): Scout 4 star (259 overall)/ Rivals 4 star (230 overall)/ESPN not rated/247 4 star (106 overall). Average = 4 stars (205.8 overall) (on the 3 sites who rank him)
LB - Jackson Sirmon Scout 3 star (unranked)/Rivals 3 star (unranked)/ESPN 3 star (254 overall)/247 4 star (177 overall). Average = 3.25 stars (can't compute overall average with him unranked on half the sites)
Scout and Rivals agree that these guys rank Jake S, Spiker, Osbourne, Lowe, Jack S. ESPN bumps Jack ahead of Lowe. And 247 is the total outlier with their order being Jake S, Spiker, Lowe, Jack S, Osbourne.
This is a great start on a great class. Ultimately I think Jacob Sirmon ends up a 5 star on most sites, with everyone else solid 4 stars besides Jackson. So 1 5 star, 3 4 stars and a 3 star, for a solid 4 star average from these five. Obviously there will be surprises, but here's what I roughly expect to see for the next 13 spots:
QB - none
RB - TreShaun Harrison (also could play safety, or corner)
WR - Michael Wilson
BTE - Devon Culp (ultimately I don't think they take Ezeike and Wilson, and I think Wilson's more likely to commit so I went with him)
WTE - Jake Peters. Guessing his rehab checks out and he moves back up to a 4 star TE.
OL - I'm guessing we take 3 since it's a down year on the WC. Would love Dawson Jaramillo, Justin Dedich and Steven Jones but that's highly unlikely. I'll say Lubick wins over Jaramillo, Huff pulls Chris Murray and we settle for MJ Ale. This wouldn't be a home run but would be a really strong OL class.
That's 11 total recruits on offense which might be one or two too high, but if Harrison or Lowe ends up on defense you're probably fine .
The defensive side is a lot fuzzier for me. Not real confident in most of these calls to follow.
CB - Kyler Gordon becomes my biggest non OL desire in this class. I think he's really important, and they ultimately get him on bored, but probably not until deep into football season. Looks like one of the last two or three commits to me. I'll also predict Braden Lenzy flips to us after Brian Kelly gets fired.
S - Bryan Addison. Really want this kid.
LB - I think we go hard after Jack Lamb but end up settling for Ben Wilson. We'll take one more LB in this class, he'll probably be poly and from Utah, but I have no idea which one.
Buck - Zion Tupuola-Fetui. Learn it. Love it.
DL - We wont' get Togiai unfortunately unless SC self destructs, which I don't see happening until after Darnold goes pro. If Darnold gets hurt early enough Togiai is ours. But that's unlikely, and I don't see a home run DT in the class for us outside of him, so let's say we'll settle for two other Polys here Sam Vakalahi for one and let's hope Hale Motu'apuaka passes the height test for the other.
Obviously this will be mostly wrong, and I cheated and took one more than I aimed for to give us a class of 19. Maybe one of the Utah kids takes a mission. Of those 19, that would be 11 current Scout 4 stars (and I'm guessing at least Peters and Murray will move up).
So yeah that's not all going to come together but I think we get to 10 four stars rather easily. I wouldn't be shocked if this class has 12 or 13. The recruiting lag is real and Petersen is building a monster.
Comments
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We should bang.
Also, on the pod we said that we thought our max 4 stars was 8 at he very most, but with the caveat that the season we had last year is a total wild card for how shit turns out.
Then we got Lowe shortly after that pod, which was a guy everyone thought was going to Oregon, so that was a +1 for a four star player that we did not expect. If we get to 10 four stars in this class (and if we get that ol class or one like it that you highlighted) the conference is FUCKED. -
Great poast.
Here's a few notes:
1. Sirmon is a 5-star and will end up that way on most services IMO.
2. They'll keep telling Lowe he's a Chico, but by the time he sees the field, he'll probably be mostly a back.
3. If we got Jaramillo, Murray and Ale I would do a line of coke, while wearing a red bandana and praying to Psalm Woochy. I don't see that happening, but it would be YUGE. You can expect Murray to be a 4-star and Ale will be as well if we offer. I think we will end up more with 3 3-star guys unless Huff is really good.
5. I think we get Lamb at LB. It sounds like we don't like Wilson much. Winston is another kid out of PDX everyone thought was going to Oregon. Could we get in on him? Hm.
6. Another big time kid to watch in Oregon is Talanoa Hufunga, S. Lubick followed him early. I love him. Imagining him and Tre'Shaun at S is super boner worthy.
7. The big problem this year is DL and BUCK.
8. The wild card is how much our staff can take advantage of the 2016 season. If we can, it could be an amazing class. -
Serious question @Dennis_DeYoung, is this Sirmon kid mentally and physically tough enough to deserve the high ranking? Not to knock Browning, the kid gives it his all, but this team might have beat Bama and Clemson with a slobber knocking Billy Joe Hobert type under center. IMO, that is what they need to get over the top. Is Sirmon potentially that guy?
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Fuck anybody questioning Sirmon ... he's got the tools ... he needs to figure it out between the ears as most kids his age does ... if he does he could end up being the best QB to come through this school at the college level ... his talent is special
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I agree that we get Lamb ... it's a numbers thing ... lucky us
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Harrison needs to embrace being a Milliy clone at S and having a 15 year NFL career ... you just don't teach what he has from size/speed/skill
Lowe is likely a RB ... but if they are telling him WR then they are done at WR for this class
Cult and Peters are the haul at TE and that's boner inducing ...
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OL/DL/OLB will be the big questions in this class as mentioned ...
Results here would put this class at another level ...
We'll learn a bit about Malloe and Huff after this year ... IF they deliver @CokeGreaterThanPepsi should go to the glory hole located at the bathroom of the 7-11 on Aurora -
Lake is the other wild card with the secondary ... I'm cautiously optimistic
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I expect all that we have at this point will end up 4 star plus with at least 2 as 5 stars
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Teq is drunk as a MF.
