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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,558 Standard Supporter
    AEB said:


    Locally, Jim Hayford at EWU has built a solid program if you want to look at an up-and-comer. Ryan Looney did great stuff at SPU. Tony Dominguez at WWU has it rolling. Jim Shaw at Western Oregon fell off this year but made the D-2 Elite 8 last year. Shaw probably has a little 'stench' as a former Romar assistant but he coached under Randy Bennett and Kelvin Sampson so he's got good bloodlines. None have 'home run hire' written on them but all would be a massive step up from roll it out Romar.


    Your list?

    this is what I object to. It's just a classic example of a classic example.

    You didn't answer the question.

    Or you just don't know anything about what those guys listed have done. Hayford is Randy Bennett lite except his teams score at a prodigious pace.

    So answer the fucking question.

  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,558 Standard Supporter
    And, by the way, basketball isn't football - there are loads of guys who have come from D-2 and D-3 schools and been successful.

    And tons who've come off P5 staff or moved and fallen on their face.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    If we don't hire a proven name coach at a PAC-12 school like Washington, you run the risk of losing good players opting to play down at small schools like Gonzaga and Wichita State where the exposure is high and winning guaranteed.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,558 Standard Supporter
    doogie said:

    If we don't hire a proven name coach at a PAC-12 school like Washington, you run the risk of losing good players opting to play down at small schools like Gonzaga and Wichita State where the exposure is high and winning guaranteed.

    You see - there's your mistake. Thinking basketball in terms of a football paradigm.

    Marquette, Gonzaga, Wichita State, Connecticut, Georgetown, Creighton, Memphis, Villanova, to a lesser extent Duke and Syracuse - those are basketball schools with limited football programs. UW would piss down their leg to have basketball success of any of those schools. None of them had a 'proven' name coach. They had guys with a plan. Then they worked the plan. "Proven name coach" screams style over substance, so, hurray for another six years of 4 and 5 star recruits and shit results. Fuck.

    High profile means getting a coach with a winning personality and proven system in place. Dude who wins big at D-2 or a mid-major is a helluva lot better than getting a low-level P5 guy like Richard fucking Petino. High level P5 guys don't have to move and their assistants are unproven. That's the career path for rebuilding football programs. Not the same in basketball. You only need 5 or 6 guys to turn around a losing program.

    Another name to watch - Mark Schlessinger at New Orleans. He'll be a big time coach somewhere someday.




  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,425
    AEB said:

    No. There are better options with far less risk, far less ego and far less paycheck.

    Locally, Jim Hayford at EWU has built a solid program if you want to look at an up-and-comer. Ryan Looney did great stuff at SPU. Tony Dominguez at WWU has it rolling. Jim Shaw at Western Oregon fell off this year but made the D-2 Elite 8 last year. Shaw probably has a little 'stench' as a former Romar assistant but he coached under Randy Bennett and Kelvin Sampson so he's got good bloodlines. None have 'home run hire' written on them but all would be a massive step up from roll it out Romar.

    Tim Jankovich at SMU might be worth taking a run at. Pac-12 would definitely be a step up competitively. SMU boosters have deep checkbooks if they want to, so that might cost a couple bucks. Plus he's only been the head guy there a couple years so timing might not be right.

    I just don't see a Power 5 coach out there worth taking a massive flyer on. Richard Petino gets me about as excited as picking up someone in Liberty Lake bar. So you're back to Marshall, someone from the Few tree like Rice or Lloyd, Randy Bennett, Musselman, etc.

    Personally, I like Larry Eustachy or Kermit Davis. Both have coached in the Northwest and both win big. But their baggage is massive. Probably not OKG.





    Maybe Cohen can hire Nussmeier to be our head coach, that way we can keep Wilcox as our DC, Tosh as our DL coach, and Eric Kiesau as our WR coach. I mean, who else could we get that's any better?

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    Exactly.