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White Seattleites protest to keep Seattle segregated
RaceBannon
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Da fuq is this guy protesting about?
Apparently he's a renter. If he's been given proper legal notice that his lease is not being renewed and he refuses to leave in the designated time period, he's essentially trespassing.
Next step in the legal process is eviction. Pretty cut and dried.
Irrelevant from a legal standpoint whether he's black, white or green. Property rights take precedent. Unless the fucking City of Seattle wants to try some bullshit eminent domain crap and say this property has historical/anthropological significance.
Which, given that it is Seattle, this dude will stay put in his SWJ protected piece of shit rental.
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Even the pussy city of Seattle evicted him.PurpleThrobber said:Da fuq is this guy protesting about?
Apparently he's a renter. If he's been given proper legal notice that his lease is not being renewed and he refuses to leave in the designated time period, he's essentially trespassing.
Next step in the legal process is eviction. Pretty cut and dried.
Irrelevant from a legal standpoint whether he's black, white or green. Property rights take precedent. Unless the fucking City of Seattle wants to try some bullshit eminent domain crap and say this property has historical/anthropological significance.
Which, given that it is Seattle, this dude will stay put in his SWJ protected piece of shit rental.
It has to be an extremely cut and dried case.
Door. African Ass. Out. -
There's a fine line between a white nationalist and a white supremacist. Sad!
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It's probably Chinese money doing the development anyway.PurpleJ said:There's a fine line between a white nationalist and a white supremacist. Sad!
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He has done nothing wrong,” said Cliff Cawthon, an organizer with the group Standing Against Foreclosure and Eviction. “The only thing he’s done is be a black elder in a rapidly gentrifying, developing city.”
City Councilmember Kshama Sawant weighed in against the eviction
Someone drop the leaflets and green light Fat man and Little Boy out of retirement -
Wish Trump would go after Chinese real estate investors. Sick of these fuckers going in and bubblefying housing markets. They've completely fucked Vancouver and are starting to fuck Seattle.PurpleThrobber said:
It's probably Chinese money doing the development anyway.PurpleJ said:There's a fine line between a white nationalist and a white supremacist. Sad!
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Vancouver fucked themselves.
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Yeah Vancouver fucked itself because it waited too long to implement any restrictions on overseas buyers. The US will fuck itself too if it doesn't start clamping down. Right now the Chinese real estate problem is primarily in a handful of major US metros but its going to get worse because no one seems to give a shit.
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Seattle is rich because of globalization and the high-value (skills and education of its workforce). In the long term "WE" will become even more successful and dominant. The only way we lose that advantage is to restrict the flow of capital, labor and resources. HTH.RedRocket said:Yeah Vancouver fucked itself because it waited too long to implement any restrictions on overseas buyers. The US will fuck itself too if it doesn't start clamping down. Right now the Chinese real estate problem is primarily in a handful of major US metros but its going to get worse because no one seems to give a shit.
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You're conflating speculative Chinese real estate investment with globalization and FDI in general. Foreign property ownership isn't a good thing if the property owner doesn't live, work or contribute meaningfully to the local economy. It prices out local residents and creates distortions - median housing prices that far exceed median incomes. This is the problem in Vancouver and why the city implemented a foreign ownership tax on property purchases.CirrhosisDawg said:
Seattle is rich because of globalization and the high-value (skills and education of its workforce). In the long term "WE" will become even more successful and dominant. The only way we lose that advantage is to restrict the flow of capital, labor and resources. HTH.RedRocket said:Yeah Vancouver fucked itself because it waited too long to implement any restrictions on overseas buyers. The US will fuck itself too if it doesn't start clamping down. Right now the Chinese real estate problem is primarily in a handful of major US metros but its going to get worse because no one seems to give a shit.
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Go Mariners!RedRocket said:
You're conflating speculative Chinese real estate investment with globalization and FDI in general. Foreign property ownership isn't a good thing if the property owner doesn't live, work or contribute meaningfully to the local economy. It prices out local residents and creates distortions - median housing prices that far exceed median incomes. This is the problem in Vancouver and why the city implemented a foreign ownership tax on property purchases. -
Shithole town,CirrhosisDawg said:
Seattle is rich because of globalization and the high-value (skills and education of its workforce). In the long term "WE" will become even more successful and dominant. The only way we lose that advantage is to restrict the flow of capital, labor and resources. HTH.RedRocket said:Yeah Vancouver fucked itself because it waited too long to implement any restrictions on overseas buyers. The US will fuck itself too if it doesn't start clamping down. Right now the Chinese real estate problem is primarily in a handful of major US metros but its going to get worse because no one seems to give a shit.
Shithole post.
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RedRocket said:
You're conflating speculative Chinese real estate investment with globalization and FDI in general. Foreign property ownership isn't a good thing if the property owner doesn't live, work or contribute meaningfully to the local economy. It prices out local residents and creates distortions - median housing prices that far exceed median incomes. This is the problem in Vancouver and why the city implemented a foreign ownership tax on property purchases.CirrhosisDawg said:
Seattle is rich because of globalization and the high-value (skills and education of its workforce). In the long term "WE" will become even more successful and dominant. The only way we lose that advantage is to restrict the flow of capital, labor and resources. HTH.RedRocket said:Yeah Vancouver fucked itself because it waited too long to implement any restrictions on overseas buyers. The US will fuck itself too if it doesn't start clamping down. Right now the Chinese real estate problem is primarily in a handful of major US metros but its going to get worse because no one seems to give a shit.
Disagree. Capital flows to its most productive uses. Always. It's called comparative advantage and is one of the reasons why the US is the richest country country in the world and Seattle is at the apex of the US economy. We can't sell the world trillions in our value-added products like tech and at the same time prevent people from buying in the US. Overall,and especially in the long term, our benefits vastly exceed the costs. You have to be skilled, educated, competive and aggressive though. Otherwise, Race can introduce you to life in the 909 / 951. -
Funny, I see two beards and ten bitches.Pitchfork51 said: -
Disagree. Capital flows to its most productive uses. Always. It's called comparative advantage and is one of the reasons why the US is the richest country country in the world and Seattle is at the apex of the US economy. We can't sell the world trillions in our value-added products like tech and at the same time prevent people from buying in the US. Overall,and especially in the long term, our benefits vastly exceed the costs. You have to be skilled, educated, competive and aggressive though. Otherwise, Race can introduce you to life in the 909 / 951.CirrhosisDawg said:RedRocket said:
You're conflating speculative Chinese real estate investment with globalization and FDI in general. Foreign property ownership isn't a good thing if the property owner doesn't live, work or contribute meaningfully to the local economy. It prices out local residents and creates distortions - median housing prices that far exceed median incomes. This is the problem in Vancouver and why the city implemented a foreign ownership tax on property purchases.CirrhosisDawg said:
Seattle is rich because of globalization and the high-value (skills and education of its workforce). In the long term "WE" will become even more successful and dominant. The only way we lose that advantage is to restrict the flow of capital, labor and resources. HTH.RedRocket said:Yeah Vancouver fucked itself because it waited too long to implement any restrictions on overseas buyers. The US will fuck itself too if it doesn't start clamping down. Right now the Chinese real estate problem is primarily in a handful of major US metros but its going to get worse because no one seems to give a shit.
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@oregonblitzkrieg, is that you?RedRocket said:
Wish Trump would go after Chinese real estate investors. Sick of these fuckers going in and bubblefying housing markets. They've completely fucked Vancouver and are starting to fuck Seattle.PurpleThrobber said:
It's probably Chinese money doing the development anyway.PurpleJ said:There's a fine line between a white nationalist and a white supremacist. Sad!
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I'm the wattered down version. I'm only a little racist and it's primarily targeted at at a small segment of wealthy, mainland Chinese.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
@oregonblitzkrieg, is that you?RedRocket said:
Wish Trump would go after Chinese real estate investors. Sick of these fuckers going in and bubblefying housing markets. They've completely fucked Vancouver and are starting to fuck Seattle.PurpleThrobber said:
It's probably Chinese money doing the development anyway.PurpleJ said:There's a fine line between a white nationalist and a white supremacist. Sad!
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Disagree. Capital flows to its most productive uses. Always. It's called comparative advantage and is one of the reasons why the US is the richest country country in the world and Seattle is at the apex of the US economy. We can't sell the world trillions in our value-added products like tech and at the same time prevent people from buying in the US. Overall,and especially in the long term, our benefits vastly exceed the costs. You have to be skilled, educated, competive and aggressive though. Otherwise, Race can introduce you to life in the 909 / 951.CirrhosisDawg said:RedRocket said:
You're conflating speculative Chinese real estate investment with globalization and FDI in general. Foreign property ownership isn't a good thing if the property owner doesn't live, work or contribute meaningfully to the local economy. It prices out local residents and creates distortions - median housing prices that far exceed median incomes. This is the problem in Vancouver and why the city implemented a foreign ownership tax on property purchases.CirrhosisDawg said:
Seattle is rich because of globalization and the high-value (skills and education of its workforce). In the long term "WE" will become even more successful and dominant. The only way we lose that advantage is to restrict the flow of capital, labor and resources. HTH.RedRocket said:Yeah Vancouver fucked itself because it waited too long to implement any restrictions on overseas buyers. The US will fuck itself too if it doesn't start clamping down. Right now the Chinese real estate problem is primarily in a handful of major US metros but its going to get worse because no one seems to give a shit.
--you fucked up the quoting--
You are talking about macroeconomic theory and I'm talking about a specific problem where some Chinese millionaire decides that he doesn't trust the Chinese government and wants to park his cash in a hot real estate market overseas instead. If they tear down some old single family home and replace it with a set of condos then it is probably a net positive because they added housing stock but if they just buy and hold onto some home then it's just artificially inflating local demand beyond what local residents cam afford.
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You are talking about macroeconomic theory and I'm talking about a specific problem where some Chinese millionaire decides that he doesn't trust the Chinese government and wants to park his cash in a hot real estate market overseas instead. If they tear down some old single family home and replace it with a set of condos then it is probably a net positive because they added housing stock but if they just buy and hold onto some home then it's just artificially inflating local demand beyond what local residents cam afford.RedRocket said:
Disagree. Capital flows to its most productive uses. Always. It's called comparative advantage and is one of the reasons why the US is the richest country country in the world and Seattle is at the apex of the US economy. We can't sell the world trillions in our value-added products like tech and at the same time prevent people from buying in the US. Overall,and especially in the long term, our benefits vastly exceed the costs. You have to be skilled, educated, competive and aggressive though. Otherwise, Race can introduce you to life in the 909 / 951.CirrhosisDawg said:RedRocket said:
You're conflating speculative Chinese real estate investment with globalization and FDI in general. Foreign property ownership isn't a good thing if the property owner doesn't live, work or contribute meaningfully to the local economy. It prices out local residents and creates distortions - median housing prices that far exceed median incomes. This is the problem in Vancouver and why the city implemented a foreign ownership tax on property purchases.CirrhosisDawg said:
Seattle is rich because of globalization and the high-value (skills and education of its workforce). In the long term "WE" will become even more successful and dominant. The only way we lose that advantage is to restrict the flow of capital, labor and resources. HTH.RedRocket said:Yeah Vancouver fucked itself because it waited too long to implement any restrictions on overseas buyers. The US will fuck itself too if it doesn't start clamping down. Right now the Chinese real estate problem is primarily in a handful of major US metros but its going to get worse because no one seems to give a shit.
If Chinese real estate speculation is such a good thing then why are cities like Vancouver and Sydney imposing such tough restrictions to fight the problem?
Because protectionists, nativists and nationalists come to the fore everywhere. It's ultimately self defeating but historically recurring. It's the simple minded thing to do and always ends badly. -
Because protectionists, nativists and nationalists come to the fore everywhere. It's ultimately self defeating but historically recurring. It's the simple minded thing to do and always ends badly.CirrhosisDawg said:
You are talking about macroeconomic theory and I'm talking about a specific problem where some Chinese millionaire decides that he doesn't trust the Chinese government and wants to park his cash in a hot real estate market overseas instead. If they tear down some old single family home and replace it with a set of condos then it is probably a net positive because they added housing stock but if they just buy and hold onto some home then it's just artificially inflating local demand beyond what local residents cam afford.RedRocket said:
Disagree. Capital flows to its most productive uses. Always. It's called comparative advantage and is one of the reasons why the US is the richest country country in the world and Seattle is at the apex of the US economy. We can't sell the world trillions in our value-added products like tech and at the same time prevent people from buying in the US. Overall,and especially in the long term, our benefits vastly exceed the costs. You have to be skilled, educated, competive and aggressive though. Otherwise, Race can introduce you to life in the 909 / 951.CirrhosisDawg said:RedRocket said:
You're conflating speculative Chinese real estate investment with globalization and FDI in general. Foreign property ownership isn't a good thing if the property owner doesn't live, work or contribute meaningfully to the local economy. It prices out local residents and creates distortions - median housing prices that far exceed median incomes. This is the problem in Vancouver and why the city implemented a foreign ownership tax on property purchases.CirrhosisDawg said:
Seattle is rich because of globalization and the high-value (skills and education of its workforce). In the long term "WE" will become even more successful and dominant. The only way we lose that advantage is to restrict the flow of capital, labor and resources. HTH.RedRocket said:Yeah Vancouver fucked itself because it waited too long to implement any restrictions on overseas buyers. The US will fuck itself too if it doesn't start clamping down. Right now the Chinese real estate problem is primarily in a handful of major US metros but its going to get worse because no one seems to give a shit.
If Chinese real estate speculation is such a good thing then why are cities like Vancouver and Sydney imposing such tough restrictions to fight the problem?
These cities are trying to curb a housing bubble/housing crisis - quit being self righteous. I was making the same argument against domestic US buyers, before the GFC, that were taking out multiple piggy back mortgages to flip their 2nd and 3rd homes. The market isn't always efficient in the short run. Go look at the housing affordability index in Vancouver, Sydney or Auckland and tell me there's not a problem. -
In reply too @RedRocket and fix the quote function I fucked up again: the solution to the housing affordabilty issue in wealthy urban areas like Vancouver, Seattle, SF and LA is increased supply. We need higher densities, vertical development, deregulation, lower development fees and public transit. Demand for housing across income levels far exceeds supply.
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@CirrhosisDawg is right as always
Chinese capital is propping up real estate markets and its a good thing. Now if Trump wants to ban the Chinese from Vancouver BC I'm in -
Tax the fuck out of these Chinese investors, make the real estate as expensive for them as real estate in Hong Kong, that will slow them down a bit.
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I'm not a racist except when it comes to Arabs. I admit I just don't like them at all, but it stems from their actions rather than from their ethnicity. Mainly what they do as it relates to the 'religion' they follow, Islam. I've used words like chink, jap, etc. because it's refreshing to actually be able to say shit like that, free speech and all, even if I don't have anything against those groups (which I don't), and not be shut down by the pc police. HH is one of the few places online that really is all about free speech. Unfortunately that's pretty fucking rare in the current climate of stifling political correctness that infests every corner of society and the internet.RedRocket said:
I'm the wattered down version. I'm only a little racist and it's primarily targeted at at a small segment of wealthy, mainland Chinese.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
@oregonblitzkrieg, is that you?RedRocket said:
Wish Trump would go after Chinese real estate investors. Sick of these fuckers going in and bubblefying housing markets. They've completely fucked Vancouver and are starting to fuck Seattle.PurpleThrobber said:
It's probably Chinese money doing the development anyway.PurpleJ said:There's a fine line between a white nationalist and a white supremacist. Sad!
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Unless you poast a sexy girl with a sammich. That gets @DerekJohnson, @ DerekisKim, and the other Derek's out there all hot and bothered.oregonblitzkrieg said:
I'm not a racist except when it comes to Arabs. I admit I just don't like them at all, but it stems from their actions rather than from their ethnicity. Mainly what they do as it relates to the 'religion' they follow, Islam. I've used words like chink, jap, etc. because it's refreshing to actually be able to say shit like that, free speech and all, even if I don't have anything against those groups (which I don't), and not be shut down by the pc police. HH is one of the few places online that really is all about free speech. Unfortunately that's pretty fucking rare in the current climate of stifling political correctness that infests every corner of society and the internet.RedRocket said:
I'm the wattered down version. I'm only a little racist and it's primarily targeted at at a small segment of wealthy, mainland Chinese.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
@oregonblitzkrieg, is that you?RedRocket said:
Wish Trump would go after Chinese real estate investors. Sick of these fuckers going in and bubblefying housing markets. They've completely fucked Vancouver and are starting to fuck Seattle.PurpleThrobber said:
It's probably Chinese money doing the development anyway.PurpleJ said:There's a fine line between a white nationalist and a white supremacist. Sad!
Then you get banned. -
Yeah I know. Fetters banned me for poasting a bare titty gif.AZDuck said:
Unless you poast a sexy girl with a sammich. That gets @DerekJohnson, @ DerekisKim, and the other Derek's out there all hot and bothered.oregonblitzkrieg said:
I'm not a racist except when it comes to Arabs. I admit I just don't like them at all, but it stems from their actions rather than from their ethnicity. Mainly what they do as it relates to the 'religion' they follow, Islam. I've used words like chink, jap, etc. because it's refreshing to actually be able to say shit like that, free speech and all, even if I don't have anything against those groups (which I don't), and not be shut down by the pc police. HH is one of the few places online that really is all about free speech. Unfortunately that's pretty fucking rare in the current climate of stifling political correctness that infests every corner of society and the internet.RedRocket said:
I'm the wattered down version. I'm only a little racist and it's primarily targeted at at a small segment of wealthy, mainland Chinese.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
@oregonblitzkrieg, is that you?RedRocket said:
Wish Trump would go after Chinese real estate investors. Sick of these fuckers going in and bubblefying housing markets. They've completely fucked Vancouver and are starting to fuck Seattle.PurpleThrobber said:
It's probably Chinese money doing the development anyway.PurpleJ said:There's a fine line between a white nationalist and a white supremacist. Sad!
Then you get banned. -
You'd get banned here too, except the Wigwam. But I don't need "Playboy-style nudity," since I like amateur hardcore porn and its free.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Yeah I know. Fetters banned me for poasting a bare titty gif.AZDuck said:
Unless you poast a sexy girl with a sammich. That gets @DerekJohnson, @ DerekisKim, and the other Derek's out there all hot and bothered.oregonblitzkrieg said:
I'm not a racist except when it comes to Arabs. I admit I just don't like them at all, but it stems from their actions rather than from their ethnicity. Mainly what they do as it relates to the 'religion' they follow, Islam. I've used words like chink, jap, etc. because it's refreshing to actually be able to say shit like that, free speech and all, even if I don't have anything against those groups (which I don't), and not be shut down by the pc police. HH is one of the few places online that really is all about free speech. Unfortunately that's pretty fucking rare in the current climate of stifling political correctness that infests every corner of society and the internet.RedRocket said:
I'm the wattered down version. I'm only a little racist and it's primarily targeted at at a small segment of wealthy, mainland Chinese.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
@oregonblitzkrieg, is that you?RedRocket said:
Wish Trump would go after Chinese real estate investors. Sick of these fuckers going in and bubblefying housing markets. They've completely fucked Vancouver and are starting to fuck Seattle.PurpleThrobber said:
It's probably Chinese money doing the development anyway.PurpleJ said:There's a fine line between a white nationalist and a white supremacist. Sad!
Then you get banned. -
I've been banned here multiple times.AZDuck said:
You'd get banned here too, except the Wigwam. But I don't need "Playboy-style nudity," since I like amateur hardcore porn and its free.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Yeah I know. Fetters banned me for poasting a bare titty gif.AZDuck said:
Unless you poast a sexy girl with a sammich. That gets @DerekJohnson, @ DerekisKim, and the other Derek's out there all hot and bothered.oregonblitzkrieg said:
I'm not a racist except when it comes to Arabs. I admit I just don't like them at all, but it stems from their actions rather than from their ethnicity. Mainly what they do as it relates to the 'religion' they follow, Islam. I've used words like chink, jap, etc. because it's refreshing to actually be able to say shit like that, free speech and all, even if I don't have anything against those groups (which I don't), and not be shut down by the pc police. HH is one of the few places online that really is all about free speech. Unfortunately that's pretty fucking rare in the current climate of stifling political correctness that infests every corner of society and the internet.RedRocket said:
I'm the wattered down version. I'm only a little racist and it's primarily targeted at at a small segment of wealthy, mainland Chinese.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
@oregonblitzkrieg, is that you?RedRocket said:
Wish Trump would go after Chinese real estate investors. Sick of these fuckers going in and bubblefying housing markets. They've completely fucked Vancouver and are starting to fuck Seattle.PurpleThrobber said:
It's probably Chinese money doing the development anyway.PurpleJ said:There's a fine line between a white nationalist and a white supremacist. Sad!
Then you get banned. -
I know. I got you unbanned once.oregonblitzkrieg said:
I've been banned here multiple times.AZDuck said:
You'd get banned here too, except the Wigwam. But I don't need "Playboy-style nudity," since I like amateur hardcore porn and its free.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Yeah I know. Fetters banned me for poasting a bare titty gif.AZDuck said:
Unless you poast a sexy girl with a sammich. That gets @DerekJohnson, @ DerekisKim, and the other Derek's out there all hot and bothered.oregonblitzkrieg said:
I'm not a racist except when it comes to Arabs. I admit I just don't like them at all, but it stems from their actions rather than from their ethnicity. Mainly what they do as it relates to the 'religion' they follow, Islam. I've used words like chink, jap, etc. because it's refreshing to actually be able to say shit like that, free speech and all, even if I don't have anything against those groups (which I don't), and not be shut down by the pc police. HH is one of the few places online that really is all about free speech. Unfortunately that's pretty fucking rare in the current climate of stifling political correctness that infests every corner of society and the internet.RedRocket said:
I'm the wattered down version. I'm only a little racist and it's primarily targeted at at a small segment of wealthy, mainland Chinese.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
@oregonblitzkrieg, is that you?RedRocket said:
Wish Trump would go after Chinese real estate investors. Sick of these fuckers going in and bubblefying housing markets. They've completely fucked Vancouver and are starting to fuck Seattle.PurpleThrobber said:
It's probably Chinese money doing the development anyway.PurpleJ said:There's a fine line between a white nationalist and a white supremacist. Sad!
Then you get banned.
