Bush Hamdan is new Atlanta Falcons' QB Coach
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Not trying to minimize Bush ...WilburHooksHands said:Hold on to your fucking talent Pete.
But we're talking about a WR coach here ...
Granted he has done a great job in recruiting as well as in developing our players at the position ... but the same can be said for the next WR coach if we make a strong hire here.
As long as we're at the top of the conference and nation we're going to have people coming around trying to take our coaches away from us with promotions, etc. It's reality.
We're actually fairly lucky in that we have a good foundation of coaches that I don't feel like we're at risk of losing:
Kwiatkowski - he's Pete's Mickey Andrews
Gregory - I think he's been there and done that and is content being part of a great staff
Bhonapha - he's been with Pete since 2006
Strausser - we can argue how good/bad this is, but he's been with Pete since 2007
Socha - probably as important as anybody on this list outside of Kwiatkowski, he's been with Pete since 2006 and to me the biggest threat to anybody leaving is greater responsibility and/or money ... we readily recognize Socha's value and I don't think he can
add more responsibility with another program ... so we should be in good shape here
We know we'll lose Lake in the next 1-2 years ... that's a given. We're replacing Hamden. Babushka I think is a wild card because he has long-term aspirations that he won't achieve at UW ... but his challenge will be in finding the right place. From a continuity standpoint, it's probably not the worst thing for him to still be here. Paopao I think the jury is still out on ... same with Malloe. Not sure either of them are anywhere close to being in danger of completely moving on unless we say so.
All in all ... it's not THAT bad. We're in a pretty good position with our assistants ... particularly some of our most critical ones. -
My only hard complaint about losing Hamdan is that we still have Smith. From that standpoint it's bullshit. Also, Pete isn't immune from making shitty hires, so it's not like we are guaranteed to upgrade or even have the same caliber of WR coach as Hamdan.
Hopefully he makes a good hire, and not Pease 2.0. -
He did cut bait from Prince at Boise when he came over so maybe there is a little hope to lose Smith but won't be soon enough.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:My only hard complaint about losing Hamdan is that we still have Smith. From that standpoint it's bullshit. Also, Pete isn't immune from making shitty hires, so it's not like we are guaranteed to upgrade or even have the same caliber of WR coach as Hamdan.
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Pepsi nobody is immune from making a bad hire
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The WR's were much improved. The real area he will be missed is recruiting.
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I know that. I am saying that more because I've seen some doogs on twitter saying people need to stop freaking out because Pete will hire someone better than Hamdan. It's like these fuckers forgot who his initial hire for WR coach at UW was.Tequilla said:Pepsi nobody is immune from making a bad hire
Honestly, we'll be fine. It just sucks we only got to exploit his recruiting for 1 season. -
Doogs on twitter are just marginally smarter than 12 meatheads and CougFan.com subscribersCokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
I know that. I am saying that more because I've seen some doogs on twitter saying people need to stop freaking out because Pete will hire someone better than Hamdan. It's like these fuckers forgot who his initial hire for WR coach at UW was.Tequilla said:Pepsi nobody is immune from making a bad hire
Honestly, we'll be fine. It just sucks we only got to exploit his recruiting for 1 season. -
Agree.Tequilla said:
Doogs on twitter are just marginally smarter than 12 meatheads and CougFan.com subscribersCokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
I know that. I am saying that more because I've seen some doogs on twitter saying people need to stop freaking out because Pete will hire someone better than Hamdan. It's like these fuckers forgot who his initial hire for WR coach at UW was.Tequilla said:Pepsi nobody is immune from making a bad hire
Honestly, we'll be fine. It just sucks we only got to exploit his recruiting for 1 season. -
I don't want Busch Hamden anymore. Good recruiter. Coaches receivers to be soft as fuck against good defenses.
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stophaie said:I don't want Busch Hamden anymore. Good recruiter. Coaches receivers to be soft as fuck against good defenses.
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I give you the next WR Coach at UW, Kim will be ecstatic...
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92-12 Pete knows what the fuck he is doing. Seattle Washington is a much better landing spot then Boise. He will recruit another good coach
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Was expecting Nuss.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:I give you the next WR Coach at UW, Kim will be ecstatic...
That was better.
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So who are the candidates to fill in Bush's position?
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@PeterNorthDawgDubSixGamer said:So who are the candidates to fill in Bush's position?
Dickens Cider
Fitzer Good
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CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
My only hard complaint about losing Hamdan is that we still have Smith. From that standpoint it's bullshit. Also, Pete isn't immune from making shitty hires, so it's not like we are guaranteed to upgrade or even have the same caliber of WR coach as Hamdan.
Hopefully he makes a good hire, and not Pease 2.0.
Was Hamdan really that good? Or was Pease just really that bad? Pettis is a fucking freak in the air and great at returning punts. I'm not sure either can be coached. And Ross was fucking Ross and as we witnessed, speed kills. We had a lot of short, under-thrown balls by our QB that required improvisation and adjustments that struck me as outside the routes in the playbook this year. So, while Hamdan appeared to be much improved over Pease, how do we know how much was him versus his players? Given only 1 year, I'm not convinced Hamdan was the major factor in the improved WR play, so I'm optimistic.RoadDawg55 said:The WR's were much improved. The real area he will be missed is recruiting.
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WHATTurdBuffer said:CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:My only hard complaint about losing Hamdan is that we still have Smith. From that standpoint it's bullshit. Also, Pete isn't immune from making shitty hires, so it's not like we are guaranteed to upgrade or even have the same caliber of WR coach as Hamdan.
Hopefully he makes a good hire, and not Pease 2.0.
Was Hamdan really that good? Or was Pease just really that bad? Pettis is a fucking freak in the air and great at returning punts. I'm not sure either can be coached. And Ross was fucking Ross and as we witnessed, speed kills. We had a lot of short, under-thrown balls by our QB that required improvisation and adjustments that struck me as outside the routes in the playbook this year. So, while Hamdan appeared to be much improved over Pease, how do we know how much was him versus his players? Given only 1 year, I'm not convinced Hamdan was the major factor in the improved WR play, so I'm optimistic.RoadDawg55 said:The WR's were much improved. The real area he will be missed is recruiting.
the difference between pease and hamdan on all fronts was fucking breathtaking
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Sort of. I agree the WR play was much better this year and the gap between Hamdan and Pease looked huge, but if Pease was terrible - as I think he was - then an average or decent coach looks great in comparison. Plus factoring in the unique and substantial talents of Ross and Pettis raises the question: How much of that was solely the effect of coaching? Reminder: Ross didn't play last year.Gladstone said:
WHATTurdBuffer said:CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:My only hard complaint about losing Hamdan is that we still have Smith. From that standpoint it's bullshit. Also, Pete isn't immune from making shitty hires, so it's not like we are guaranteed to upgrade or even have the same caliber of WR coach as Hamdan.
Hopefully he makes a good hire, and not Pease 2.0.
Was Hamdan really that good? Or was Pease just really that bad? Pettis is a fucking freak in the air and great at returning punts. I'm not sure either can be coached. And Ross was fucking Ross and as we witnessed, speed kills. We had a lot of short, under-thrown balls by our QB that required improvisation and adjustments that struck me as outside the routes in the playbook this year. So, while Hamdan appeared to be much improved over Pease, how do we know how much was him versus his players? Given only 1 year, I'm not convinced Hamdan was the major factor in the improved WR play, so I'm optimistic.RoadDawg55 said:The WR's were much improved. The real area he will be missed is recruiting.
the difference between pease and hamdan on all fronts was fucking breathtaking
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Ross wasn't that good prior to this year. Talented yes, but not super productive. Small sample size like you said but pettis wasn't that great prior also.TurdBuffer said:
Sort of. I agree the WR play was much better this year and the gap between Hamdan and Pease looked huge, but if Pease was terrible - as I think he was - then an average or decent coach looks great in comparison. Plus factoring in the unique and substantial talents of Ross and Pettis raises the question: How much of that was solely the effect of coaching? Reminder: Ross didn't play last year.Gladstone said:
WHATTurdBuffer said:CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:My only hard complaint about losing Hamdan is that we still have Smith. From that standpoint it's bullshit. Also, Pete isn't immune from making shitty hires, so it's not like we are guaranteed to upgrade or even have the same caliber of WR coach as Hamdan.
Hopefully he makes a good hire, and not Pease 2.0.
Was Hamdan really that good? Or was Pease just really that bad? Pettis is a fucking freak in the air and great at returning punts. I'm not sure either can be coached. And Ross was fucking Ross and as we witnessed, speed kills. We had a lot of short, under-thrown balls by our QB that required improvisation and adjustments that struck me as outside the routes in the playbook this year. So, while Hamdan appeared to be much improved over Pease, how do we know how much was him versus his players? Given only 1 year, I'm not convinced Hamdan was the major factor in the improved WR play, so I'm optimistic.RoadDawg55 said:The WR's were much improved. The real area he will be missed is recruiting.
the difference between pease and hamdan on all fronts was fucking breathtaking
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It will be very interesting to see what Pete does. Right now we have one dynamic recruiter on staff in Jimmy "god" Lake, who there is a better than 50% chance won't be on staff next year.
Does Pete look for a alpha recruiter who he thinks he can mold/turn into a better wr or other position coach down the road, or does he go for the best coach he can find, with the feeling that the on field results will speak for themselves in recruits eyes?
From a recruiting standpoint, as the TSIO guys said, I see a lot of "par" coaches on this staff, one ace, and then Strausser and Smith.
You need more than one guy who connects with the kids in a way that they are excited and can't wait to get here, and besides Lake, to rip off the phrase, the rest of the coaches are "old, fat and white".
PS: Tequilla's breakdown of the staff and specifically how important Socha is, can't be understated. Tim Socha is that valuable to this program
ESPN had a story about Ohio State, and Urban Meyer essentially said his s/c coach holds the keys to the car, as he turns the kids over to him in January, and outside the 20 spring practices they get, their his until he gets them back in August for fall camp.
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John Ross couldn't run a route before this year. On offense was a two trick pony - fly route, or bubble screen. He spends a year with Hamdan and suddenly he can run the whole route tree.TurdBuffer said:CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:My only hard complaint about losing Hamdan is that we still have Smith. From that standpoint it's bullshit. Also, Pete isn't immune from making shitty hires, so it's not like we are guaranteed to upgrade or even have the same caliber of WR coach as Hamdan.
Hopefully he makes a good hire, and not Pease 2.0.
Was Hamdan really that good? Or was Pease just really that bad? Pettis is a fucking freak in the air and great at returning punts. I'm not sure either can be coached. And Ross was fucking Ross and as we witnessed, speed kills. We had a lot of short, under-thrown balls by our QB that required improvisation and adjustments that struck me as outside the routes in the playbook this year. So, while Hamdan appeared to be much improved over Pease, how do we know how much was him versus his players? Given only 1 year, I'm not convinced Hamdan was the major factor in the improved WR play, so I'm optimistic.RoadDawg55 said:The WR's were much improved. The real area he will be missed is recruiting.
Pettis wasn't a freak in the air as a sophomore, he was mostly shit. Suddenly as a junior he's a badass.
Then you add in solid contributions from McLatcher and Aaron Fucking Fuller, and even decent moments from Baccelia, and it's hard to deny Hamdan was a miracle worker.
WDWHA if you want too, just be honest that you're dooging.
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All you need to look at is the difference in blocking last year.TurdBuffer said:CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:My only hard complaint about losing Hamdan is that we still have Smith. From that standpoint it's bullshit. Also, Pete isn't immune from making shitty hires, so it's not like we are guaranteed to upgrade or even have the same caliber of WR coach as Hamdan.
Hopefully he makes a good hire, and not Pease 2.0.
Was Hamdan really that good? Or was Pease just really that bad? Pettis is a fucking freak in the air and great at returning punts. I'm not sure either can be coached. And Ross was fucking Ross and as we witnessed, speed kills. We had a lot of short, under-thrown balls by our QB that required improvisation and adjustments that struck me as outside the routes in the playbook this year. So, while Hamdan appeared to be much improved over Pease, how do we know how much was him versus his players? Given only 1 year, I'm not convinced Hamdan was the major factor in the improved WR play, so I'm optimistic.RoadDawg55 said:The WR's were much improved. The real area he will be missed is recruiting.
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"He will be missed."
Hopefully and quite possibly not, and definitely not for certain. WR is not a rocket science coaching position. Hamdan was good and a huge improvement over Pease. But LIPO. If Pete could get Hamdan, I'm confident he can find a suitable replacement.
As UW ascends, we're going to see good coaches go elsewhere every year. We need to get used to this and not shit our britches every time this happens. -
The odds are strongly in favor of a dropoff. Petersen "got" Pease, too. Chances are the next hire will be somewhere in between.TurdBuffer said:"He will be missed."
Hopefully and quite possibly not, and definitely not for certain. WR is not a rocket science coaching position. Hamdan was good and a huge improvement over Pease. But LIPO. If Pete could get Hamdan, I'm confident he can find a suitable replacement.
As UW ascends, we're going to see good coaches go elsewhere every year. We need to get used to this and not shit our britches every time this happens. -
Pete needs to learn this isn't the WAC anymore.dnc said:
The odds are strongly in favor of a dropoff. Petersen "got" Pease, too. Chances are the next hire will be somewhere in between.TurdBuffer said:"He will be missed."
Hopefully and quite possibly not, and definitely not for certain. WR is not a rocket science coaching position. Hamdan was good and a huge improvement over Pease. But LIPO. If Pete could get Hamdan, I'm confident he can find a suitable replacement.
As UW ascends, we're going to see good coaches go elsewhere every year. We need to get used to this and not shit our britches every time this happens. -
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BHAM! (why did I just realize this now that he's gone) has always been one of my favorite, classy, terrorists.UWhuskytskeet said: -
Dude that is fucking doog bullshit. Chris is not immune from making fucking mistakes. Pease was peterman mistake so is fucking babushka.TurdBuffer said:"He will be missed."
Hopefully and quite possibly not, and definitely not for certain. WR is not a rocket science coaching position. Hamdan was good and a huge improvement over Pease. But LIPO. If Pete could get Hamdan, I'm confident he can find a suitable replacement.
As UW ascends, we're going to see good coaches go elsewhere every year. We need to get used to this and not shit our britches every time this happens.
