It's unfair to let Jake Browning's late season production define him (subscription)

jecornel said:

salemcoog said:

jecornel said:

Dennis_DeYoung said:

Jake sucked in big games. The problem is modern life has made humans so devoid of mental capacity that we cannot hold two ideas in our heads at one time:

1) Jake is pre-snap Jesus.
2) Jake chokes in any pressure situation.

We don't have to let anything define anything. Both those things are true.

Next year maybe he stops choking and maybe he doesn't, but being pre-snap Jesus is unlikely to go away.

His arm won't get any stronger (for those of you new here 'strength' in arms is a metaphor - you can't lift weights to improve it, it has to do with flexibility in ligaments) and he's not going to get any bigger.

So, he is what he is. Hopefully our team is just so good we never get in a close game and Jake will do great!

You can't improve arm strength with weight training? What?

improving hand strength and forearm strength doesn't improve your ability to throw a football?

Nice troll job. You got me.

Clearly, you would make a terrible trainer.

Essentially you are saying Elway could throw the ball same in high school as he did in the NFL?

Weight training in regards to better leg and core strength helps. But traditional upper body strength training sacrifices flexibility which is a huge component in generating velocity and distance.

Absolutely, but training your rotator cuff, shoulder, overall body strength and conditioning all correlate to improved arm strength and distance of throwing a football.

Guess who introduced strength training to golf? Tiger fucking woods. Do you want to tell me the the distance of a golf is strictly mechanics and hip motion?

There are compotents to the golf swing that are related to the football throw.

Is Browning going to sling it like it like Ryan Leaf?

No, but he can improve his arm strength through weigth training and conditioning.

This is seriously one of the stupidest fucking topics that Browning cannot improve his game and his deep ball.

It doesn't take much science to figure out that you can improve ball velocity and distance through physical training.

If you want to say he has peaked so be it.

You can bitch about it for two more years then you can bitch that Sirmon is no pre snap genius.

LoneStarDawg said:

HUSKY PODCAST FIGHT!!!!!!

jecornel said:

salemcoog said:

jecornel said:

Dennis_DeYoung said:

Jake sucked in big games. The problem is modern life has made humans so devoid of mental capacity that we cannot hold two ideas in our heads at one time:

1) Jake is pre-snap Jesus.
2) Jake chokes in any pressure situation.

We don't have to let anything define anything. Both those things are true.

Next year maybe he stops choking and maybe he doesn't, but being pre-snap Jesus is unlikely to go away.

His arm won't get any stronger (for those of you new here 'strength' in arms is a metaphor - you can't lift weights to improve it, it has to do with flexibility in ligaments) and he's not going to get any bigger.

So, he is what he is. Hopefully our team is just so good we never get in a close game and Jake will do great!

You can't improve arm strength with weight training? What?

improving hand strength and forearm strength doesn't improve your ability to throw a football?

Nice troll job. You got me.

Clearly, you would make a terrible trainer.

Essentially you are saying Elway could throw the ball same in high school as he did in the NFL?

Weight training in regards to better leg and core strength helps. But traditional upper body strength training sacrifices flexibility which is a huge component in generating velocity and distance.

Absolutely, but training your rotator cuff, shoulder, overall body strength and conditioning all correlate to improved arm strength and distance of throwing a football.

Guess who introduced strength training to golf? Tiger fucking woods. Do you want to tell me the the distance of a golf is strictly mechanics and hip motion?

There are compotents to the golf swing that are related to the football throw.

Is Browning going to sling it like it like Ryan Leaf?

No, but he can improve his arm strength through weigth training and conditioning.

This is seriously one of the stupidest fucking topics that Browning cannot improve his game and his deep ball.

It doesn't take much science to figure out that you can improve ball velocity and distance through physical training.

If you want to say he has peaked so be it.

You can bitch about it for two more years then you can bitch that Sirmon is no pre snap genius.

A family member threw for 10,000 yards over a four period playing D-1 football. I can tell you physical conditioning was part of the progression of his career.