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At the Pac-12 Poker Table, is Washington's Sark an Easy Mark?

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Hardcore_Husky Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 309 Swaye's Wigwam
edited April 2013 in Tug Tavern

imageAt the Pac-12 Poker Table, is Washington's Sark an Easy Mark?

This brief summation gives voice to the concerns that Sark isn't the genius so many believe him to be. In fact, he may be an easy mark. That's why many who yearn to see Husky Football return to dominance struggle to accept him as head coach -- because we don't want Husky Football to embrace mediocrity.

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  • TommySQC
    TommySQC Member Posts: 5,813
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,141
    edited April 2013
    Nice job, Derek. One thing, we did not beat Oregon State in 2011. I believe you are talking about the Arizona game we won the week after getting throttled by Stanford. Oregon State was the infamous Nick Montana game that was a complete debacle.
  • WhiskeyDawg
    WhiskeyDawg Member Posts: 406
    Good article and one that needed to be written. Hi Scott Woodward.
  • Meek
    Meek Member Posts: 7,031
    anyone know who that Asian chick is?
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,443 Founders Club

    Nice job, Derek. One thing, we did not beat Oregon State in 2011. I believe you are talking about the Arizona game we won the week after getting throttled by Stanford. Oregon State was the infamous Nick Montana game that was a complete debacle.

    Thank you. I made the correction.

  • Steve_Bowman
    Steve_Bowman Member Posts: 442
    edited April 2013
    Anyone one that wanted Cream Puff to fail from the beginning just to say they're right is seriously F'ed up. I have a hard time believing that was the case.

    Going forward I hope he lays a big egg...this year is good. My fear is if he hovers above 500, he'll be here a long time. Get to the inevitable and loose him now rather than later. A good coach could have this program humming in a couple of years.

    Oh, and like Derek says, 10 - 2 would give me reason to take all this back as well.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Anyone one that wanted Cream Puff to fail from the beginning just to say they're right is seriously F'ed up. I have a hard time believing that was the case.

    Going forward I hope he lays a big egg...this year is good. My fear is if he hovers above 500, he'll be here a long time. Get to the inevitable and loose him now rather than later. A good coach could have this program humming in a couple of years.

    Oh, and like Derek says, 10 - 2 would give me reason to take all this back as well.

    No one here wants Sark to fail so they can be right. That is a standard line about us from the dawgman.com posters who chose to ignore facts, and cling to "hope" and Sarks Kick ass pressers where he does things like prediciting no home losses.

    It's an unthoughtful and desperate comeback when they have nothing no facts to back up their claim that Sark is the right coach.
  • volcanodawg
    volcanodawg Member Posts: 282
    yep, exactly. i like to spend countless hours and money on something i really want to be miserable and pathetic. yep, that's right. #hikim

  • Steve_Bowman
    Steve_Bowman Member Posts: 442
    edited April 2013
    I believe this to be true.

    I was a dogboy customer for years. Me and many others I knew never said this about people connected with this site, although it was the party line. Many, many of us told the party line groupies and the dogboy bosses they had their heads up their asses starting in 2011. Granted, we may have been a little slow, but we figured it out.

    Anyone one that wanted Cream Puff to fail from the beginning just to say they're right is seriously F'ed up. I have a hard time believing that was the case.

    Going forward I hope he lays a big egg...this year is good. My fear is if he hovers above 500, he'll be here a long time. Get to the inevitable and loose him now rather than later. A good coach could have this program humming in a couple of years.

    Oh, and like Derek says, 10 - 2 would give me reason to take all this back as well.

    No one here wants Sark to fail so they can be right. That is a standard line about us from the dawgman.com posters who chose to ignore facts, and cling to "hope" and Sarks Kick ass pressers where he does things like prediciting no home losses.

    It's an unthoughtful and desperate comeback when they have nothing no facts to back up their claim that Sark is the right coach.
  • TommySQC
    TommySQC Member Posts: 5,813
    I like to call this 2006

    I believe this to be true.

    I was a dogboy customer for years. Me and many others I knew never said this about people connected with this site, although it was the party line. Many, many of us told the party line groupies and the dogboy bosses they had their heads up their asses starting in 2011. Granted, we may have been a little slow, but we figured it out.

    Anyone one that wanted Cream Puff to fail from the beginning just to say they're right is seriously F'ed up. I have a hard time believing that was the case.

    Going forward I hope he lays a big egg...this year is good. My fear is if he hovers above 500, he'll be here a long time. Get to the inevitable and loose him now rather than later. A good coach could have this program humming in a couple of years.

    Oh, and like Derek says, 10 - 2 would give me reason to take all this back as well.

    No one here wants Sark to fail so they can be right. That is a standard line about us from the dawgman.com posters who chose to ignore facts, and cling to "hope" and Sarks Kick ass pressers where he does things like prediciting no home losses.

    It's an unthoughtful and desperate comeback when they have nothing no facts to back up their claim that Sark is the right coach.


    I like to call this 2007
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    TommySQC said:

    I like to call this 2006

    I believe this to be true.

    I was a dogboy customer for years. Me and many others I knew never said this about people connected with this site, although it was the party line. Many, many of us told the party line groupies and the dogboy bosses they had their heads up their asses starting in 2011. Granted, we may have been a little slow, but we figured it out.

    Anyone one that wanted Cream Puff to fail from the beginning just to say they're right is seriously F'ed up. I have a hard time believing that was the case.

    Going forward I hope he lays a big egg...this year is good. My fear is if he hovers above 500, he'll be here a long time. Get to the inevitable and loose him now rather than later. A good coach could have this program humming in a couple of years.

    Oh, and like Derek says, 10 - 2 would give me reason to take all this back as well.

    No one here wants Sark to fail so they can be right. That is a standard line about us from the dawgman.com posters who chose to ignore facts, and cling to "hope" and Sarks Kick ass pressers where he does things like prediciting no home losses.

    It's an unthoughtful and desperate comeback when they have nothing no facts to back up their claim that Sark is the right coach.


    I like to call this 2007
    Is that what you like to call it?
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,141
    edited April 2013
    The over the top defending of all that relates to Sark got really old on Dawgman. The OL has not sucked all 4 years under Sark, the game plan against Arizona was solid, the OL issues have been fixed, Sark is a tough guy because he got up in '96 after Chorak and co sacked him a bunch of times, Cozzetto is a good coach because you would not want to see him angry, this year is going to be special, etc. All of that has been said by the staff or a fanboy. The shit that the staff and the fanboys on that site spew in the face of facts has gotten old.

    I guess there is a market for being a delusional, moronic fanboy because people still post over there. It really has become a pro Sark circle jerk. Anyone who does not follow their mantra and is critical of Sark and the program are told they are miserable, jerks, need to take it to the vent board, or the OL board.

    How fucking hard is it to call it like it is? We all watch the games, our eyes are not lying. This is an average program with a lot of flaws that point straight to the head coach. The head coach in college football is more important and influential than a coach in any other sport. It is crucial to have a great coach in order to be great. It's obvious Sark is not better than average. Stability means almost nothing without the right coach. I don't get why some have such a hard time admitting that.

    This thread does pose an interesting dilemma. Is it better to go 8-5 and continue with Sark (there'es no way he gets fired from 8-5) or 5-7 and Sark gets fired. Or would 5-7 even get Sark fired?





  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,443 Founders Club
    edited May 2013
    My favorite was when Arizona beat Washington 52-17, Dawgman customers were informed that it was a needed step backwards in order to go forward.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,141
    edited May 2013

    My favorite was when Arizona beat Washington 52-17, Dawgman customers were informed that it was a needed step backwards in order to go forward.

    The days after the Arizona game were classic Kim. First, he says the game plan was solid and that the way to beat Arizona was by passing. What better way to get your QB on track? Never mind, that we were running the ball down their throats whenever we called running plays and Price was running for his life almost every time we called a pass. He kept pointing out that Arizona was one of the worst in the conference in passing defense. A poster later pointed out that Arizona was 11th in the Pac 12 in both rushing and passing defense, but Kim still wouldn't budge.

    Thankfully, Sark admitted on the coaches show that while he thought it was a solid game plan, in hindsight it sucked. Oh yeah, UCLA ran for over 300 yards two weeks later against Arizona. That was my personal favorite moment of Kim's bullshit blowing up in his face.

  • CheersWestDawg
    CheersWestDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,478 Swaye's Wigwam
    Kim defends Sark and Woodward to have access to both of them. I've seen it firsthand.

    To call Kim's journalistic integrity compromised is to say that water is a tad bit damp.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,141
    edited May 2013

    Kim defends Sark and Woodward to have access to both of them. I've seen it firsthand.

    To call Kim's journalistic integrity compromised is to say that water is a tad bit damp. </blockquote

    No doubt. He has been called out on it many times, but he acts like it is laughable. "I criticize when the situation calls for it. Some of you criticize everything."

    Calling Kim a journalist? Hahaha, that's some funny shit right there.


  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,443 Founders Club

    Kim defends Sark and Woodward to have access to both of them. I've seen it firsthand.

    To call Kim's journalistic integrity compromised is to say that water is a tad bit damp.

    in Kim's defense, I don't think he's ever claimed to be a journalist.
  • Meek
    Meek Member Posts: 7,031
    has Kim ever played football? (aside from that massive thing in his ad)
  • CheersWestDawg
    CheersWestDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,478 Swaye's Wigwam

    Kim defends Sark and Woodward to have access to both of them. I've seen it firsthand.

    To call Kim's journalistic integrity compromised is to say that water is a tad bit damp.

    in Kim's defense, I don't think he's ever claimed to be a journalist.
    Doesn't matter if he's ever claimed to be a journalist. He has claimed that his website is "independent" of the UW athletic dept. And we all know that's a fucking farce of the highest order.
  • Steve_Bowman
    Steve_Bowman Member Posts: 442
    edited May 2013
    I don't believe the little squirt (Grinolds) ever claimed to be a journalist either.

    What he is a terrible business man. Controversy sells. Rather than put a lid on it, he should have let it grow. There was enough controversy on dawgboy to grow the business. Instead, Grinolds thinks its more important to have Access (hang out with the AD lackies and Cream Puff) than be successful. His "access" produces nothing of value except ego gratification.

    A lot of people have left the fold because of his temper tantrums and "access" freak needs.
  • volcanodawg
    volcanodawg Member Posts: 282
    Meek said:

    has Kim ever played football? (aside from that massive thing in his ad)

    LMAO. Serious?

    Maybe 2 hand touch with the quadriplegic kids in middle school, but that fucker wouldn't last 5 seconds in real football gear. In fact, he'd be one of the kids that real football players would target so they could Darwin-ize the team & make it stronger.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,141
    edited May 2013
    Hey Kim, I am sorry for taking a shot at you being a journalist. I did not know you did not consider yourself a journalist. Having said that, I still think you and your staff are morons who don't have a fucking clue about football. You should try pulling your head out of Sark and Woody's ass. It must be tough to breathe in there. Stop saying you are independent when all you do is kiss Sark and the AD's ass, even when there is plenty to criticize.

    Once again, I apologize for making fun of you as a journalist and I hope you will consider my advice on pulling your head out of Sark's ass. Suffocating in shit would be a pretty bad way to go out.

  • jecornel
    jecornel Member Posts: 9,737
    I mentioned Sark being a possible after TY was canned and was ridiculed for it. Too young, no head coaching experience, Carroll wannabe...blah, blah.....Now it is considered a visionary hire.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,941 Founders Club
    jecornel said:

    I mentioned Sark being a possible after TY was canned and was ridiculed for it. Too young, no head coaching experience, Carroll wannabe...blah, blah.....Now it is considered a visionary hire.

    Big deal. Fleenor knew Sark would be hired back when Jim Owens retired
  • CheersWestDawg
    CheersWestDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,478 Swaye's Wigwam

    jecornel said:

    I mentioned Sark being a possible after TY was canned and was ridiculed for it. Too young, no head coaching experience, Carroll wannabe...blah, blah.....Now it is considered a visionary hire.

    Big deal. Fleenor knew Sark would be hired back when Jim Owens retired
    Fleenor knew Sark would be hired back when Jim Owens was just a smattering of precum on the tip of his daddy's cock.
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    In all seriousness I remember when Fleenor railed against Woody when Sark was hired, all about how he was done and Sark was a horrible hire...

    Here is a link that can only show the title of the posts made on dawgman that day Sark was hired... You will notice that both AANDY and Fleenor disliked the hire before they got their super secret golf games... http://web.archive.org/web/20081209042912/http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=147&f=1360

    unfortunately we dont have all the screen shots we need since I dont know how to look at the actual post that was made...
  • CheersWestDawg
    CheersWestDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,478 Swaye's Wigwam
    AANDY and Fleenor are just a couple of dorks that hang on every word Kim says.

    You want "inside info" on the Husky Football program? You'll get as much "insider info" as Fleenor does if you attend the Husky Coaches Clinic each spring.

    Big fucking deal.
  • TommySQC
    TommySQC Member Posts: 5,813
    Does anyone else spy a certain HHB in the photo or is it just me?
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    Houhusky said:

    In all seriousness I remember when Fleenor railed against Woody when Sark was hired, all about how he was done and Sark was a horrible hire...

    Here is a link that can only show the title of the posts made on dawgman that day Sark was hired... You will notice that both AANDY and Fleenor disliked the hire before they got their super secret golf games... http://web.archive.org/web/20081209042912/http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=147&f=1360

    unfortunately we dont have all the screen shots we need since I dont know how to look at the actual post that was made...

    If anyone can read the posts it looks like I have a nice back and forth with Kim on page 2. It looks like that and another topic were someone agreed with me were locked. I'd like to know what was all said.

    RipTy. DO YOUR JOB!!1!
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,941 Founders Club
    Husky Claus lol