the cowards who don't think that is enough are ironically calling other people snowflakes.
and since everyone loves to ask the question about free healthcare, which every other modern nation has, how do you propose we pay for a nuclear arms race?
No such thing as "free healthcare." Just because everyone else has an inferior system doesn't mean we should either. Scraping that fascist unaffordable care act will save billions in the short term, trillions in the long run.
We spend more for worse outcomes. I don't think that is superior
If we spent more previously why is this costing TRILLIONS?
Because you believe fake news. The deficit is 1/3 now of what it was in Bush's last budget. How can it cost us trillions?
Pure sophistry, Hondo. Dems and you love to replace "debt" with "deficit" to mask the overall debt situation. It's like a bum arguing that he's "making more money begging this month than last." BFD. Being a little less underwater doesn't change the fact a person is still drowning.
And wth tax cuts and infrastructure spending, Trump is going to fix the deficit? Just watch, your news sources will go from "the sky is falling because of debt/deficit and labor participation" to "look how great this economy is" in about a month.
the cowards who don't think that is enough are ironically calling other people snowflakes.
and since everyone loves to ask the question about free healthcare, which every other modern nation has, how do you propose we pay for a nuclear arms race?
No such thing as "free healthcare." Just because everyone else has an inferior system doesn't mean we should either. Scraping that fascist unaffordable care act will save billions in the short term, trillions in the long run.
There's no such thing as a "free market" in healthcare either. Nobody wakes up in the morning and says "I think I'll spend three weeks in the oncology ward at Harborview, have all my hair fall out, and get my house foreclosed on because the insurance I can barely afford is playing games about paying my claim."
the cowards who don't think that is enough are ironically calling other people snowflakes.
and since everyone loves to ask the question about free healthcare, which every other modern nation has, how do you propose we pay for a nuclear arms race?
No such thing as "free healthcare." Just because everyone else has an inferior system doesn't mean we should either. Scraping that fascist unaffordable care act will save billions in the short term, trillions in the long run.
There's no such thing as a "free market" in healthcare either. Nobody wakes up in the morning and says "I think I'll spend three weeks in the oncology ward at Harborview, have all my hair fall out, and get my house foreclosed on because the insurance I can barely afford is playing games about paying my claim."
That's the crazy part. My buddy has our firms best insurance, it's $1,500 a month (his cost is like $600). His wife had a brain tumor 5 years ago. Last month they found the remaining had started to grow again, so radiation is the easiest and best treatment (next step is to cut her head open again if this doesn't work).
The insurance company still won't confirm in writing that it will cover the cost, 5 weeks into radiation. Chances are they will, be might have to fight for it.
But it's shit like that that actually needs to be fixed in the health system. That Obamacare didn't address.
Your straw man existed long before Obamacare and GOP wanted to address it but we're stonewalled.
You lost. You get NO say. Sit quietly.
We?
When the fuck did Republicans put forth a plan to fix issues like this? You do know that they control Congress so it would be very easy to get a fix like that to the president's desk. And would bipartisan.
There's no such thing as a "free market" in healthcare either.
Especially in the USA. I think it's funny how so many people think we have more of a free market healthcare system operating in this country than others simply because we don't have universal health care or whatever it's called these days.
To anyone who thinks otherwise, go look at how many pages of healthcare and healthcare insurance regulations exist at the state and federal level. Then, consider all the court rulings. After that, you'll see that almost everything is controlled by the government.
There's no such thing as a "free market" in healthcare either.
Especially in the USA. I think it's funny how so many people think we have more of a free market healthcare system operating in this country than others simply because we don't have universal health care or whatever it's called these days.
To anyone who thinks otherwise, go look at how many pages of healthcare and healthcare insurance regulations exist at the state and federal level. Then, consider all the court rulings. After that, you'll see that almost everything is controlled by the government.
Not to mention there is the requirement to provide health care first then ask for money later in the ER. This means that those with insurance and cash pay for those without. We already have socialised medicine regardless of what it's called.
Your straw man existed long before Obamacare and GOP wanted to address it but we're stonewalled.
You lost. You get NO say. Sit quietly.
We?
When the fuck did Republicans put forth a plan to fix issues like this? You do know that they control Congress so it would be very easy to get a fix like that to the president's desk. And would bipartisan.
You are a dumbfuck if you believe what you wrote.
Nope. They were to busy repealing obamacare 50 times without ever offering an alternative. Now when trump keeps the good parts, he'll take credit for it.
Your straw man existed long before Obamacare and GOP wanted to address it but we're stonewalled.
You lost. You get NO say. Sit quietly.
We?
When the fuck did Republicans put forth a plan to fix issues like this? You do know that they control Congress so it would be very easy to get a fix like that to the president's desk. And would bipartisan.
You are a dumbfuck if you believe what you wrote.
Nope. They were to busy repealing obamacare 50 times without ever offering an alternative. Now when trump keeps the good parts, he'll take credit for it.
Obama was not going to give an inch and the GOP knew they didn't have the votes. Obamacare is all democrat all the time. If the GOP scraps it they deserve the credit
You have to be a special kind of stupid liar to keep saying that its the GOP fault that a bill that none of them voted for is their fault. There was no debate. The democrats were told to vote yes and like the good little lap dogs they are, they did.
Your straw man existed long before Obamacare and GOP wanted to address it but we're stonewalled.
You lost. You get NO say. Sit quietly.
We?
When the fuck did Republicans put forth a plan to fix issues like this? You do know that they control Congress so it would be very easy to get a fix like that to the president's desk. And would bipartisan.
You are a dumbfuck if you believe what you wrote.
Nope. They were to busy repealing obamacare 50 times without ever offering an alternative. Now when trump keeps the good parts, he'll take credit for it.
Obama was not going to give an inch and the GOP knew they didn't have the votes. Obamacare is all democrat all the time. If the GOP scraps it they deserve the credit
You have to be a special kind of stupid liar to keep saying that its the GOP fault that a bill that none of them voted for is their fault. There was no debate. The democrats were told to vote yes and like the good little lap dogs they are, they did.
If Obama wasn't giving an inch he would have gone after the public option at least. Instead he caved and we got the shitty nixon/dole/heritage foundation reform with the Democrat's name attached to it. And we wonder why the democrats never win in November
Your straw man existed long before Obamacare and GOP wanted to address it but we're stonewalled.
You lost. You get NO say. Sit quietly.
We?
When the fuck did Republicans put forth a plan to fix issues like this? You do know that they control Congress so it would be very easy to get a fix like that to the president's desk. And would bipartisan.
You are a dumbfuck if you believe what you wrote.
Nope. They were to busy repealing obamacare 50 times without ever offering an alternative. Now when trump keeps the good parts, he'll take credit for it.
Obama was not going to give an inch and the GOP knew they didn't have the votes. Obamacare is all democrat all the time. If the GOP scraps it they deserve the credit
You have to be a special kind of stupid liar to keep saying that its the GOP fault that a bill that none of them voted for is their fault. There was no debate. The democrats were told to vote yes and like the good little lap dogs they are, they did.
Actually that's not how it went down. At all. There were many revisions and some Democrats pushed back until they got what they wanted in the bill. And since Obamacare there has been a few revisions to the bill, that we bipartisan.
All those regulations didn't stop Hemsley from taking a billion in profit. A lot of that profit coming from denying people coverage
Regulations actually help insurance companies make money. Regulations are the biggest reason why everyone has to have health insurance in the first place if they need medical care.
Your straw man existed long before Obamacare and GOP wanted to address it but we're stonewalled.
You lost. You get NO say. Sit quietly.
We?
When the fuck did Republicans put forth a plan to fix issues like this? You do know that they control Congress so it would be very easy to get a fix like that to the president's desk. And would bipartisan.
You are a dumbfuck if you believe what you wrote.
Nope. They were to busy repealing obamacare 50 times without ever offering an alternative. Now when trump keeps the good parts, he'll take credit for it.
Obama was not going to give an inch and the GOP knew they didn't have the votes. Obamacare is all democrat all the time. If the GOP scraps it they deserve the credit
You have to be a special kind of stupid liar to keep saying that its the GOP fault that a bill that none of them voted for is their fault. There was no debate. The democrats were told to vote yes and like the good little lap dogs they are, they did.
Actually that's not how it went down. At all. There were many revisions and some Democrats pushed back until they got what they wanted in the bill. And since Obamacare there has been a few revisions to the bill, that we bipartisan.
But you are right on some kind of special stupid.
Yes you are since you keep peddling the lie. So Obama negotiated with democrats and that's the GOP's fault?
Your straw man existed long before Obamacare and GOP wanted to address it but we're stonewalled.
You lost. You get NO say. Sit quietly.
We?
When the fuck did Republicans put forth a plan to fix issues like this? You do know that they control Congress so it would be very easy to get a fix like that to the president's desk. And would bipartisan.
You are a dumbfuck if you believe what you wrote.
Nope. They were to busy repealing obamacare 50 times without ever offering an alternative. Now when trump keeps the good parts, he'll take credit for it.
Obama was not going to give an inch and the GOP knew they didn't have the votes. Obamacare is all democrat all the time. If the GOP scraps it they deserve the credit
You have to be a special kind of stupid liar to keep saying that its the GOP fault that a bill that none of them voted for is their fault. There was no debate. The democrats were told to vote yes and like the good little lap dogs they are, they did.
Actually that's not how it went down. At all. There were many revisions and some Democrats pushed back until they got what they wanted in the bill. And since Obamacare there has been a few revisions to the bill, that we bipartisan.
But you are right on some kind of special stupid.
And that was his undoing. FDR, LBJ, Reagan, etc wouldn't have "negotiated" with their own party. They would have gotten what they wanted
Your straw man existed long before Obamacare and GOP wanted to address it but we're stonewalled.
You lost. You get NO say. Sit quietly.
We?
When the fuck did Republicans put forth a plan to fix issues like this? You do know that they control Congress so it would be very easy to get a fix like that to the president's desk. And would bipartisan.
You are a dumbfuck if you believe what you wrote.
Nope. They were to busy repealing obamacare 50 times without ever offering an alternative. Now when trump keeps the good parts, he'll take credit for it.
Obama was not going to give an inch and the GOP knew they didn't have the votes. Obamacare is all democrat all the time. If the GOP scraps it they deserve the credit
You have to be a special kind of stupid liar to keep saying that its the GOP fault that a bill that none of them voted for is their fault. There was no debate. The democrats were told to vote yes and like the good little lap dogs they are, they did.
Actually that's not how it went down. At all. There were many revisions and some Democrats pushed back until they got what they wanted in the bill. And since Obamacare there has been a few revisions to the bill, that we bipartisan.
But you are right on some kind of special stupid.
And that was his undoing. FDR, LBJ, Reagan, etc wouldn't have "negotiated" with their own party. They would have gotten what they wanted
Yeah the way it went down was lame. Obama thought after it was passed legislators would come together to pass fixes, which he clearly miscalculated. He did reach out to Republicans and thought that since the insurance mandate was a conservative philosophy that he could convince Republicans to jump on board too. Which he was wrong again.
But Race is fucked up on his assessment of how it went down.
the cowards who don't think that is enough are ironically calling other people snowflakes.
and since everyone loves to ask the question about free healthcare, which every other modern nation has, how do you propose we pay for a nuclear arms race?
No such thing as "free healthcare." Just because everyone else has an inferior system doesn't mean we should either. Scraping that fascist unaffordable care act will save billions in the short term, trillions in the long run.
We spend more for worse outcomes. I don't think that is superior
If we spent more previously why is this costing TRILLIONS?
Because you believe fake news. The deficit is 1/3 now of what it was in Bush's last budget. How can it cost us trillions?
Pure sophistry, Hondo. Dems and you love to replace "debt" with "deficit" to mask the overall debt situation. It's like a bum arguing that he's "making more money begging this month than last." BFD. Being a little less underwater doesn't change the fact a person is still drowning.
And wth tax cuts and infrastructure spending, Trump is going to fix the deficit? Just watch, your news sources will go from "the sky is falling because of debt/deficit and labor participation" to "look how great this economy is" in about a month.
Not to mention a rise in military spending
Imagine how much better we would live if we could just eliminate military spending
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The insurance company still won't confirm in writing that it will cover the cost, 5 weeks into radiation. Chances are they will, be might have to fight for it.
But it's shit like that that actually needs to be fixed in the health system. That Obamacare didn't address.
You lost. You get NO say. Sit quietly.
When the fuck did Republicans put forth a plan to fix issues like this? You do know that they control Congress so it would be very easy to get a fix like that to the president's desk. And would bipartisan.
You are a dumbfuck if you believe what you wrote.
To anyone who thinks otherwise, go look at how many pages of healthcare and healthcare insurance regulations exist at the state and federal level. Then, consider all the court rulings. After that, you'll see that almost everything is controlled by the government.
All of it
You have to be a special kind of stupid liar to keep saying that its the GOP fault that a bill that none of them voted for is their fault. There was no debate. The democrats were told to vote yes and like the good little lap dogs they are, they did.
And we wonder why the democrats never win in November
But you are right on some kind of special stupid.
You own that bitch.
But Race is fucked up on his assessment of how it went down.