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Husky Coaches Before, During, After James

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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 70,276 Founders Club
    unfrozencaveman said:

    Water is wet. We all know Sark sucks, it's not that complicated.

    What about before Owens, but after Dobie? Some lean years

    My g'pa was on the '43 team. After a few wins over Whitman and Spokane Air Command (4-0 that season, all non-conference), we got to the Rose Bowl but lost against USC. Unfortunately, he had to cut out for the Battle of Tarawa in Nov. Didn't even get a ring

    Bagshaw went 63-22-6 in the 1920s... Phelan went 65-37-1 in the 1930s
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 11,453
    DerekJohnson said:

    unfrozencaveman said:

    Water is wet. We all know Sark sucks, it's not that complicated.

    What about before Owens, but after Dobie? Some lean years

    My g'pa was on the '43 team. After a few wins over Whitman and Spokane Air Command (4-0 that season, all non-conference), we got to the Rose Bowl but lost against USC. Unfortunately, he had to cut out for the Battle of Tarawa in Nov. Didn't even get a ring

    Bagshaw went 63-22-6 in the 1920s... Phelan went 65-37-1 in the 1930s
    Bagshaw had one shitty year and was shown the door. This is the first decade where UW despite what morons have said was actually patient.

    This was also their worst decade as they have stuck with loser coaches one-two years too long and haven't exactly had a good hire since James(Rick was a good hire but program was slipping under his watch).

    More so than James walking away was Lude being forced out. Had James up and retired while Lude was in still in charge UW would have been fine IMO. UW has had one terrible A.D. after another since Lude.
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  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,425
    edited October 2013
    By the third year a coach should have the majority of the roster filled with "his" players. He should have some cohesiveness among the staff. He should have his own QB in place and he should have a good feel for the conference and other teams's tendencies. Great coaches are well on their way by Year 3.

    There are exceptions to this standard, of course -- but they are very rare across all of CFB.
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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,743 Founders Club
    CuntWaffle said:

    Sark really is just mediocre at life in general.

    Erin Andrews disagrees.
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  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,940 Founders Club
    Swaye said:

    CuntWaffle said:

    Sark really is just mediocre at life in general.

    Erin Andrews disagrees.
    Allegedly.
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  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194
    DerekJohnson said:

    Neuheisel's W-L record had something to do with his firing. If he had gone 11-1 in 2002 you think he would have been fired? No way, even if the upper campus wanted it. He would have had too much clout. What made Rick vulnerable was going 7-6 that last year.

    I don't disagree at all. I preferred to try to keep off-the-field factors out because then we get into a discussion of how important how you coach is versus the results. I would have kept Owens out if I didn't feel the racial issues were smoothed over enough at the end.
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  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,842
    DerekJohnson said:

    Neuheisel's W-L record had something to do with his firing. If he had gone 11-1 in 2002 you think he would have been fired? No way, even if the upper campus wanted it. He would have had too much clout. What made Rick vulnerable was going 7-6 that last year.

    Winning makes everything alright.

    The problem we face is 7-6 is the new 11-1.

    A senior on campus right now was 9/10 years old when Washington won their last Rose Bowl.

    He was 11/12 the last time Washington beat Oregon.

    The fucking doogs of the world have accepted and given momentum to the fact Sark is the savior of the program ... because nobody has forgotten 0-12. We ... have never forgotten What DJ built and being a top tier team year in and year out (and a coach who realized when the standard was slipping if we weren't).

    Nothing will change unless fans quit coming to the stadium and quit buying Washington purple gear.

    For Christ Sakes, Washington football was the 17th richest program in America last year ... just one spot behind Oregon and all of their riches.

    Why would the upper campus, the AD, or anyone want to fuck with that? We .. know it can be better. But ... there are those who live in fear and are afraid to take a chance.

    TL, DR
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  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194
    topdawgnc said:


    Nothing will change unless fans quit coming to the stadium and quit buying Washington purple black gear.

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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    Did Don James have to face a ranked Oregon State? That's what I thought.
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