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  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    edited November 2016
    2001400ex said:

    I think the majority did see what a bad candidate she was, but the political machine had decreed that she would be the next president, which was why the primaries were rigged against Bernie for example.

    She is winning the popular vote.

    Agree otherwise.
    That's how amazing Trump supporters are. They were cheering Trump in the lead forgetting that rural areas are conservative and are less populous, therefore counted quicker. And you know, the west coast is populous and fairly liberal.

    Not to mention that Hillary beat Bernie in the popular vote too.
    in a democratic primary.
    Populists who hate the system and republicans who are fucking sick of stagnant wages aren't voting in dem primaries. Not to mention all the election fuckery that they did to suppress the vote, not only that we know about, but what we don't know about.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    he was polling better vs trump than Clinton by every objective measure. explain that
  • RaccoonHarry
    RaccoonHarry Member Posts: 2,161

    I think the majority did see what a bad candidate she was, but the political machine had decreed that she would be the next president, which was why the primaries were rigged against Bernie for example.

    She is winning the popular vote.

    Agree otherwise.
    In CA/NY combined she won by 5 million votes. Which is the reason the electoral college should never be eliminated, and never will. Theoretically, without the electoral college, it's possible for a candidate to win ONE large state by a huge margin (CA, for instance), lose every other state by narrow margins, and win the presidency. Imagine a president taking office after winning only a single state? Another thing the founding fathers got right. Of course they were smarter than us, and it still shows.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    I think the majority did see what a bad candidate she was, but the political machine had decreed that she would be the next president, which was why the primaries were rigged against Bernie for example.

    She is winning the popular vote.

    Agree otherwise.
    In CA/NY combined she won by 5 million votes. Which is the reason the electoral college should never be eliminated, and never will. Theoretically, without the electoral college, it's possible for a candidate to win ONE large state by a huge margin (CA, for instance), lose every other state by narrow margins, and win the presidency. Imagine a president taking office after winning only a single state? Another thing the founding fathers got right. Of course they were smarter than us, and it still shows.
    If it becomes a national election, who cares about state votes?

    The better argument is that the Electoral College distributes power across states rather than clustering power in cities.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,811 Standard Supporter
    edited November 2016

    I think the majority did see what a bad candidate she was, but the political machine had decreed that she would be the next president, which was why the primaries were rigged against Bernie for example.

    She is winning the popular vote.

    Agree otherwise.
    In CA/NY combined she won by 5 million votes. Which is the reason the electoral college should never be eliminated, and never will. Theoretically, without the electoral college, it's possible for a candidate to win ONE large state by a huge margin (CA, for instance), lose every other state by narrow margins, and win the presidency. Imagine a president taking office after winning only a single state? Another thing the founding fathers got right. Of course they were smarter than us, and it still shows.
    That's how Safeco and Century Link got built on a micro-level in the State of Washington.

    And #dinorossi
  • Fenderbender123
    Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,989
    When Trump talks, people listen. He inspires people. And that's what people want in a leader. That is why he was elected.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    When Trump talks, people listen. He inspires people. And that's what people want in a leader. That is why he was elected.

    Puppy has a good write-up too. 95% of you re-re's didnt want to part with Sark. Steel2, Fireman and Pup celebrated till the morning light when the news broke. Still the difference between us 3 and you bonios. A short and sweet write-up
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    I think the majority did see what a bad candidate she was, but the political machine had decreed that she would be the next president, which was why the primaries were rigged against Bernie for example.

    She is winning the popular vote.

    Agree otherwise.
    In CA/NY combined she won by 5 million votes. Which is the reason the electoral college should never be eliminated, and never will. Theoretically, without the electoral college, it's possible for a candidate to win ONE large state by a huge margin (CA, for instance), lose every other state by narrow margins, and win the presidency. Imagine a president taking office after winning only a single state? Another thing the founding fathers got right. Of course they were smarter than us, and it still shows.
    So what? Theoretically a candidate could win several states by 1 vote and get ALL of the electoral college for those states, get crushed in the popular vote, and still win because they narrowly won those few states. How is that better?
  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113

    I think the majority did see what a bad candidate she was, but the political machine had decreed that she would be the next president, which was why the primaries were rigged against Bernie for example.

    She is winning the popular vote.

    Agree otherwise.
    In CA/NY combined she won by 5 million votes. Which is the reason the electoral college should never be eliminated, and never will. Theoretically, without the electoral college, it's possible for a candidate to win ONE large state by a huge margin (CA, for instance), lose every other state by narrow margins, and win the presidency. Imagine a president taking office after winning only a single state? Another thing the founding fathers got right. Of course they were smarter than us, and it still shows.
    So what? Theoretically a candidate could win several states by 1 vote and get ALL of the electoral college for those states, get crushed in the popular vote, and still win because they narrowly won those few states. How is that better?
    Because it helps Trump IMO.