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San Diego Union Tribune hasn't endorsed a democrat for president in 148 years, until today

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  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    OZONE said:

    OZONE said:

    Does Ozone realize that the more the media endorses Clinton, the more it helps Trump right?

    This would be great news for Ozone, if this campaign followed traditional rules. People trust the media less than they trust either of these candidates. During this campaign, a media endorsement of Hillary Clinton is worth nothing.

    I don't think it will affect voting. I think it is a good predictor of the mood of the nation. And the mood is that Trump is such a huge dumbfuck that everybody who is anybody is against him.
    The reason for these endorsements OZONE is that most of these publications were never with Trump, they just never thought he had a chance. But since polls show Trump actually has a decent chance of winning, they are in panic mode and grasping at straws to change the public's mind.

    The media hasn't represented to voice of the people for years. They are just like any other business. There are a couple of influential bodies that push their agenda.
    Don't know if you've heard, but Clinton just took the lead in Arizona.

    Maybe you are only looking at the polls that Trump tweets out at 3am?
    To be fair, Trump doesn't tweet out polls at 3 am, only rants about fat porn stars.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,800
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    OZONE said:

    Tequilla said:

    So let me see if I have this right ...

    There are a boatload of companies, media, agencies, etc. that RARELY endorse a Presidential candidate but are in this election ...

    The person that seemingly all of these people are endorsing is in a tight race with this person that is considered by so many to be unqualified for the job ...

    What does that say about the other person in the race?

    It says that Trump is such a fucktard, these organizations are willing to endorse a (D) to prevent him from getting close to the White House.

    Great question.
    That's obvious ...

    But what I'm getting at is that if Trump was THAT bad why are 40-45% of the voting population dead set on voting for him?

    Have you considered that to a large percentage of our population Hillary is viewed just as unfavorably and dangerous as Trump is by the other half of the population?
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,800
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    OZONE said:

    Does Ozone realize that the more the media endorses Clinton, the more it helps Trump right?

    This would be great news for Ozone, if this campaign followed traditional rules. People trust the media less than they trust either of these candidates. During this campaign, a media endorsement of Hillary Clinton is worth nothing.

    I don't think it will affect voting. I think it is a good predictor of the mood of the nation. And the mood is that Trump is such a huge dumbfuck that everybody who is anybody is against him.
    The reason for these endorsements OZONE is that most of these publications were never with Trump, they just never thought he had a chance. But since polls show Trump actually has a decent chance of winning, they are in panic mode and grasping at straws to change the public's mind.

    The media hasn't represented to voice of the people for years. They are just like any other business. There are a couple of influential bodies that push their agenda.
    Polls show trump with decent chance of winning, lol. He's behind, fighting to fend off landslide numbers at this point. And he's fallen even farther behind in the two weeks since these endorsements started coming out. There you go again (every post) with that poorly educated white trash schtick.
    If you have to talk about how well educated you are, you're most likely not. HTH
    Get a MBA and then pop off
  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,377
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    It's not black and white. You can write an article that is 100% (legally) factual, but is structured and worded in a way to sway(e?) the reader's opinion.

    Here's an example from this very website.

    http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/entertainment/theater/sd-me-review-trumpcard-20161004-story.html


    That’s because Trump has demonstrated how a candidacy that breaks all the rules (and bursts the brain cells of half the nation) can still succeed in racing right to the verge of ultimate power.
    Look at this bold part. Completely unnecessary in a NEWS article. This is not an opinion piece, yet for some reason it's fine to include bullshit like this. Seriously, "breaks all the rules?" Or could they have worded it "does things differently"? Yes, they could have, but why do that when "breaks all the rules" makes him sound like a bad person?

    Here's another paragraph:
    Actually, that’s not quite Daisey talking in “The Trump Card”: It’s him portraying the specter of Roy Cohn, the lawyer and McCarthyist linchpin who became Trump’s attorney and longtime adviser after the government accused the developer in 1973 of racial discrimination in housing.
    Could have ended the sentence before the bolded part. But, you just can't miss an opportunity to take a jab at a guy you don't want to be president!

    One more example:
    First of all, Daisey — who notes at the top of the show that he’s an artist and thus “a professional liar” — admits he admires Trump’s performative flair and instincts for improv.
    Uh oh...Looks like this guy said something positive about Trump! Let's make sure to precede that by mentioning how he claims to be a "professional liar" so that the readers will think he's lying about the positive thing he said about Trump.

    Oh, but then let's not mention how he claimed to be a professional liar before he said this...
    He adds, “You’ll be shocked to learn Donald Trump is not working for your vote.”
    This writer is well aware of the attention span of his readers...

    Seriously, this is so EASY for me to see. I should start a website dedicated to pointing out all this bullshit.




    That's an opinion piece about a play, not a news article.

    HTH
    Btw, ditch my avatar boobs. Its bad enough you pucker up fer purpy 24-7 , but using another mans' avatar is off limits. That borders on creepy shit. You cult HH dingo's need help
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    OZONE said:

    OZONE said:

    Does Ozone realize that the more the media endorses Clinton, the more it helps Trump right?

    This would be great news for Ozone, if this campaign followed traditional rules. People trust the media less than they trust either of these candidates. During this campaign, a media endorsement of Hillary Clinton is worth nothing.

    I don't think it will affect voting. I think it is a good predictor of the mood of the nation. And the mood is that Trump is such a huge dumbfuck that everybody who is anybody is against him.
    The reason for these endorsements OZONE is that most of these publications were never with Trump, they just never thought he had a chance. But since polls show Trump actually has a decent chance of winning, they are in panic mode and grasping at straws to change the public's mind.

    The media hasn't represented to voice of the people for years. They are just like any other business. There are a couple of influential bodies that push their agenda.
    Don't know if you've heard, but Clinton just took the lead in Arizona.

    Maybe you are only looking at the polls that Trump tweets out at 3am?
    To be fair, Trump doesn't tweet out polls at 3 am, only rants about fat porn stars.
    Tequilla said:

    OZONE said:

    Tequilla said:

    So let me see if I have this right ...

    There are a boatload of companies, media, agencies, etc. that RARELY endorse a Presidential candidate but are in this election ...

    The person that seemingly all of these people are endorsing is in a tight race with this person that is considered by so many to be unqualified for the job ...

    What does that say about the other person in the race?

    It says that Trump is such a fucktard, these organizations are willing to endorse a (D) to prevent him from getting close to the White House.

    Great question.
    That's obvious ...

    But what I'm getting at is that if Trump was THAT bad why are 40-45% of the voting population dead set on voting for him?

    Have you considered that to a large percentage of our population Hillary is viewed just as unfavorably and dangerous as Trump is by the other half of the population?
    Yes 40% of the country believes Hillary killed 4 people in Benghazi. And her emails causes ISIS. And Clinton foundation spends less than 10% on charity.

    I wish someone other than Hillary was in there as she's terrible and been in politics her entire life. But yes 40% of the country is FS.
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
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    Tequilla said:

    OZONE said:

    Tequilla said:

    So let me see if I have this right ...

    There are a boatload of companies, media, agencies, etc. that RARELY endorse a Presidential candidate but are in this election ...

    The person that seemingly all of these people are endorsing is in a tight race with this person that is considered by so many to be unqualified for the job ...

    What does that say about the other person in the race?

    It says that Trump is such a fucktard, these organizations are willing to endorse a (D) to prevent him from getting close to the White House.

    Great question.
    That's obvious ...

    But what I'm getting at is that if Trump was THAT bad why are 40-45% of the voting population dead set on voting for him?

    Have you considered that to a large percentage of our population Hillary is viewed just as unfavorably and dangerous as Trump is by the other half of the population?
    There's a lot of poor white trash in America.

    Hope this helps.
  • OZONEOZONE Member Posts: 2,510
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    Tequilla said:

    OZONE said:

    Tequilla said:

    So let me see if I have this right ...

    There are a boatload of companies, media, agencies, etc. that RARELY endorse a Presidential candidate but are in this election ...

    The person that seemingly all of these people are endorsing is in a tight race with this person that is considered by so many to be unqualified for the job ...

    What does that say about the other person in the race?

    It says that Trump is such a fucktard, these organizations are willing to endorse a (D) to prevent him from getting close to the White House.

    Great question.
    That's obvious ...

    But what I'm getting at is that if Trump was THAT bad why are 40-45% of the voting population dead set on voting for him?

    Have you considered that to a large percentage of our population Hillary is viewed just as unfavorably and dangerous as Trump is by the other half of the population?
    I'd say it breaks down roughly like this (the % below are of the Trump voting block):

    25% will never vote (D) no matter what
    25% will never vote for a woman, no matter what
    25% hate blacks and view her as the husband of our first black prez, and SoS of our 2nd black prez
    25% live in mobile homes and read the National Enquirer and watched The Apprentice on their "console TV sets" and are voting Trump because he is the only politician whose name they can remember

  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,653
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    OZONE said:

    Tequilla said:

    OZONE said:

    Tequilla said:

    So let me see if I have this right ...

    There are a boatload of companies, media, agencies, etc. that RARELY endorse a Presidential candidate but are in this election ...

    The person that seemingly all of these people are endorsing is in a tight race with this person that is considered by so many to be unqualified for the job ...

    What does that say about the other person in the race?

    It says that Trump is such a fucktard, these organizations are willing to endorse a (D) to prevent him from getting close to the White House.

    Great question.
    That's obvious ...

    But what I'm getting at is that if Trump was THAT bad why are 40-45% of the voting population dead set on voting for him?

    Have you considered that to a large percentage of our population Hillary is viewed just as unfavorably and dangerous as Trump is by the other half of the population?
    I'd say it breaks down roughly like this (the % below are of the Trump voting block):

    25% will never vote (D) no matter what
    25% will never vote for a woman, no matter what
    25% hate blacks and view her as the husband of our first black prez, and SoS of our 2nd black prez
    25% live in mobile homes and read the National Enquirer and watched The Apprentice on their "console TV sets" and are voting Trump because he is the only politician whose name they can remember

    I won't disagree with your breakdown - it's a fairly accurate if not hurtful generalization.

    But do the maff - Trump only has to snag a couple more percentage points out of the remainder who don't fall into that generalization and he's living in the White House.


  • OZONEOZONE Member Posts: 2,510
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    OZONE said:

    Tequilla said:

    OZONE said:

    Tequilla said:

    So let me see if I have this right ...

    There are a boatload of companies, media, agencies, etc. that RARELY endorse a Presidential candidate but are in this election ...

    The person that seemingly all of these people are endorsing is in a tight race with this person that is considered by so many to be unqualified for the job ...

    What does that say about the other person in the race?

    It says that Trump is such a fucktard, these organizations are willing to endorse a (D) to prevent him from getting close to the White House.

    Great question.
    That's obvious ...

    But what I'm getting at is that if Trump was THAT bad why are 40-45% of the voting population dead set on voting for him?

    Have you considered that to a large percentage of our population Hillary is viewed just as unfavorably and dangerous as Trump is by the other half of the population?
    I'd say it breaks down roughly like this (the % below are of the Trump voting block):

    25% will never vote (D) no matter what
    25% will never vote for a woman, no matter what
    25% hate blacks and view her as the husband of our first black prez, and SoS of our 2nd black prez
    25% live in mobile homes and read the National Enquirer and watched The Apprentice on their "console TV sets" and are voting Trump because he is the only politician whose name they can remember

    I won't disagree with your breakdown - it's a fairly accurate if not hurtful generalization.

    But do the maff - Trump only has to snag a couple more percentage points out of the remainder who don't fall into that generalization and he's living in the White House.

    Unless some major revelation comes out between now and election day, I don't see it happening. I think Clinton's team knows which states she needs to win, to take the electoral college, and she will win all of those, and a few more.

    Trump will go back to hosting a TV show loved by the National Enquirer crowd.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,470
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    OZONE said:

    OZONE said:

    Tequilla said:

    OZONE said:

    Tequilla said:

    So let me see if I have this right ...

    There are a boatload of companies, media, agencies, etc. that RARELY endorse a Presidential candidate but are in this election ...

    The person that seemingly all of these people are endorsing is in a tight race with this person that is considered by so many to be unqualified for the job ...

    What does that say about the other person in the race?

    It says that Trump is such a fucktard, these organizations are willing to endorse a (D) to prevent him from getting close to the White House.

    Great question.
    That's obvious ...

    But what I'm getting at is that if Trump was THAT bad why are 40-45% of the voting population dead set on voting for him?

    Have you considered that to a large percentage of our population Hillary is viewed just as unfavorably and dangerous as Trump is by the other half of the population?
    I'd say it breaks down roughly like this (the % below are of the Trump voting block):

    25% will never vote (D) no matter what
    25% will never vote for a woman, no matter what
    25% hate blacks and view her as the husband of our first black prez, and SoS of our 2nd black prez
    25% live in mobile homes and read the National Enquirer and watched The Apprentice on their "console TV sets" and are voting Trump because he is the only politician whose name they can remember

    I won't disagree with your breakdown - it's a fairly accurate if not hurtful generalization.

    But do the maff - Trump only has to snag a couple more percentage points out of the remainder who don't fall into that generalization and he's living in the White House.

    Unless some major revelation comes out between now and election day, I don't see it happening. I think Clinton's team knows which states she needs to win, to take the electoral college, and she will win all of those, and a few more.

    Trump will go back to hosting a TV show loved by the National Enquirer crowd.
    Yes they do seem to know the states and they've already cast thousands of Hillary votes in Ohio.
  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,377
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    OZONE said:

    Does Ozone realize that the more the media endorses Clinton, the more it helps Trump right?

    This would be great news for Ozone, if this campaign followed traditional rules. People trust the media less than they trust either of these candidates. During this campaign, a media endorsement of Hillary Clinton is worth nothing.

    I don't think it will affect voting. I think it is a good predictor of the mood of the nation. And the mood is that Trump is such a huge dumbfuck that everybody who is anybody is against him.
    The reason for these endorsements OZONE is that most of these publications were never with Trump, they just never thought he had a chance. But since polls show Trump actually has a decent chance of winning, they are in panic mode and grasping at straws to change the public's mind.

    The media hasn't represented to voice of the people for years. They are just like any other business. There are a couple of influential bodies that push their agenda.
    Polls show trump with decent chance of winning, lol. He's behind, fighting to fend off landslide numbers at this point. And he's fallen even farther behind in the two weeks since these endorsements started coming out. There you go again (every post) with that poorly educated white trash schtick.
    @CirrhosisDawg

    Didn't take very long.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,919
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    This thread shows me that Hondo is the same lying piece of crap now as he was then.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    SFGbob said:

    This thread shows me that Hondo is the same lying piece of crap now as he was then.

    Care to point to the lie?
  • LebamDawgLebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,510
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    Can I point at it with a gun?


  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 100,691
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    OZONE said:

    Does Ozone realize that the more the media endorses Clinton, the more it helps Trump right?

    This would be great news for Ozone, if this campaign followed traditional rules. People trust the media less than they trust either of these candidates. During this campaign, a media endorsement of Hillary Clinton is worth nothing.

    I don't think it will affect voting. I think it is a good predictor of the mood of the nation. And the mood is that Trump is such a huge dumbfuck that everybody who is anybody is against him.
    The reason for these endorsements OZONE is that most of these publications were never with Trump, they just never thought he had a chance. But since polls show Trump actually has a decent chance of winning, they are in panic mode and grasping at straws to change the public's mind.

    The media hasn't represented to voice of the people for years. They are just like any other business. There are a couple of influential bodies that push their agenda.
    Polls show trump with decent chance of winning, lol. He's behind, fighting to fend off landslide numbers at this point. And he's fallen even farther behind in the two weeks since these endorsements started coming out. There you go again (every post) with that poorly educated white trash schtick.
    MICHAEL BUMP CITY BUMPUS
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,919
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    And CD has always been a mouthy dumfuck
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 33,793
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    SFGbob said:

    And CD has always been a mouthy dumfuck

    @CirrhosisDawg is mouthy but not a dumb fuck.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    Tequilla said:

    OZONE said:

    Tequilla said:

    So let me see if I have this right ...

    There are a boatload of companies, media, agencies, etc. that RARELY endorse a Presidential candidate but are in this election ...

    The person that seemingly all of these people are endorsing is in a tight race with this person that is considered by so many to be unqualified for the job ...

    What does that say about the other person in the race?

    It says that Trump is such a fucktard, these organizations are willing to endorse a (D) to prevent him from getting close to the White House.

    Great question.
    That's obvious ...

    But what I'm getting at is that if Trump was THAT bad why are 40-45% of the voting population dead set on voting for him?

    Have you considered that to a large percentage of our population Hillary is viewed just as unfavorably and dangerous as Trump is by the other half of the population?
    There's a lot of poor white trash in HillsboroAmerica.

    Hope this helps.
    Fixed
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,470
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    How'd that endorsement work out?
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