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The Dallas Morning News has endorsed Hillary Clinton

OZONE
OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
edited September 2016 in Tug Tavern
The Dallas Morning News has endorsed Hillary Clinton. “We don’t come to this decision easily,” the editorial board writes today. “This newspaper has not recommended a Democrat for the nation’s highest office since before World War II — if you’re counting, that’s more than 75 years and nearly 20 elections… We’ve been critical of Clinton’s handling of certain issues in the past. But unlike Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton has experience in actual governance, a record of service and a willingness to delve into real policy.”

As popular as Trump might be with his uneducated 20 million white male unemployed supporters, people that have brains are doing everything they can to keep him out of office.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
    Did they mention that man landed on the moon?
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  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Everybody knows the Bush's and Ted Cruz support Hillary
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  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    edited September 2016
    doogie said:

    Everybody knows the Bush's and Ted Cruz support Hillary

    This and every newspaper in Texas can endorse Clinton and Trump will still beat her by 10 points there. But is ozone a quook trying to make Doogs look bad?
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  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    OZONE. Pressing badly. Every thread.
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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    greenblood said:

    doogie said:

    Everybody knows the Bush's and Ted Cruz support Hillary

    This and every newspaper in Texas can endorse Clinton and Trump will still beat her by 10 points there. But is ozone a quook trying to make Doogs look bad?
    I know you're being sarcastic but there isn't any recent polling data for Trump to win Texas by 10 or more:

    http://www.electionprojection.com/latest-polls/texas-presidential-polls-trump-vs-clinton.php
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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    Nobody even reads the newspaper.
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  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    greenblood said:

    doogie said:

    Everybody knows the Bush's and Ted Cruz support Hillary

    This and every newspaper in Texas can endorse Clinton and Trump will still beat her by 10 points there. But is ozone a quook trying to make Doogs look bad?
    I know you're being sarcastic but there isn't any recent polling data for Trump to win Texas by 10 or more:

    http://www.electionprojection.com/latest-polls/texas-presidential-polls-trump-vs-clinton.php
    There may be some sarcasm but if you look below, there are different polls about a month old showing +8 and +11. +10 is obviously optimistic, but to think Trump has a chance at losing Texas is about as dumb as thinking Hillary has a chance at losing New York.
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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Swaye said:

    Nobody even reads the newspaper.

    Why do you hate @RaceBannon?
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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    greenblood said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    greenblood said:

    doogie said:

    Everybody knows the Bush's and Ted Cruz support Hillary

    This and every newspaper in Texas can endorse Clinton and Trump will still beat her by 10 points there. But is ozone a quook trying to make Doogs look bad?
    I know you're being sarcastic but there isn't any recent polling data for Trump to win Texas by 10 or more:

    http://www.electionprojection.com/latest-polls/texas-presidential-polls-trump-vs-clinton.php
    There may be some sarcasm but if you look below, there are different polls about a month old showing +8 and +11. +10 is obviously optimistic, but to think Trump has a chance at losing Texas is about as dumb as thinking Hillary has a chance at losing New York.
    I don't think Trump is losing Texas either, but his racial outreach program clearly isn't working there.
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    greenblood said:

    doogie said:

    Everybody knows the Bush's and Ted Cruz support Hillary

    This and every newspaper in Texas can endorse Clinton and Trump will still beat her by 10 points there. But is ozone a quook trying to make Doogs look bad?
    I know you're being sarcastic but there isn't any recent polling data for Trump to win Texas by 10 or more:

    http://www.electionprojection.com/latest-polls/texas-presidential-polls-trump-vs-clinton.php
    The Washington post poll is interesting. Over 5,000 people polled is a huge number for one state. Considering most of the nationwide polls are like 3,000 or whatever.

    Hillary doesn't win Texas. Really it's an indictment of the craziness that are polls.
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  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    edited September 2016
    greenblood said:

    doogie said:

    Everybody knows the Bush's and Ted Cruz support Hillary

    This and every newspaper in Texas can endorse Clinton and Trump will still beat her by 10 points there. But is ozone a quook trying to make Doogs look bad?
    The point isn't that Clinton may win Texas (she doesn't need to), the point is that the largest paper in Texas is endorsing a Democrat for the first time in 75 years -- even a candidate as bad as Clinton -- because Trump is so much worse.
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  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    OZONE said:

    greenblood said:

    doogie said:

    Everybody knows the Bush's and Ted Cruz support Hillary

    This and every newspaper in Texas can endorse Clinton and Trump will still beat her by 10 points there. But is ozone a quook trying to make Doogs look bad?
    The point isn't that Clinton may win Texas (she doesn't need to), the point is that the largest paper in Texas is endorsing a Democrat for the first time in 75 years -- even a candidate as bad as Clinton -- because Trump is so much worse.
    Maybe to that newspaper, but the polls show a pretty tight race. You scared?
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  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999
    edited September 2016
    This sounds exactly like 4 years ago when Obama was "close" in Texas and the polls were under 10%, until of course the election got close and Romney magically won by 15%...

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/tx/texas_romney_vs_obama-1945.html#polls

    As for why the newspaper endorsed Hillary...
    image
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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    HoustonHusky said:

    This sounds exactly like 4 years ago when Obama was "close" in Texas and the polls were under 10%, until of course the election got close and Romney magically won by 15%...

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/tx/texas_romney_vs_obama-1945.html#polls

    As for why the newspaper endorsed Hillary...
    image

    You really suck at reading @TheChart
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  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    greenblood said:

    OZONE said:

    greenblood said:

    doogie said:

    Everybody knows the Bush's and Ted Cruz support Hillary

    This and every newspaper in Texas can endorse Clinton and Trump will still beat her by 10 points there. But is ozone a quook trying to make Doogs look bad?
    The point isn't that Clinton may win Texas (she doesn't need to), the point is that the largest paper in Texas is endorsing a Democrat for the first time in 75 years -- even a candidate as bad as Clinton -- because Trump is so much worse.
    Maybe to that newspaper, but the polls show a pretty tight race. You scared?
    Scared that Clinton is such a shitty candidate that there is a chance that a huge dumbfuck like Trump might get nuclear launch codes?

    Fucking right I'm scared. Every thinking person is. Which is why Republicans in droves are supporting Clinton over Trump in this race.

    A dumbfuck like Trump should be kept as far away as possible from the launch codes.
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  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    OZONE said:

    greenblood said:

    OZONE said:

    greenblood said:

    doogie said:

    Everybody knows the Bush's and Ted Cruz support Hillary

    This and every newspaper in Texas can endorse Clinton and Trump will still beat her by 10 points there. But is ozone a quook trying to make Doogs look bad?
    The point isn't that Clinton may win Texas (she doesn't need to), the point is that the largest paper in Texas is endorsing a Democrat for the first time in 75 years -- even a candidate as bad as Clinton -- because Trump is so much worse.
    Maybe to that newspaper, but the polls show a pretty tight race. You scared?
    Scared that Clinton is such a shitty candidate that there is a chance that a huge dumbfuck like Trump might get nuclear launch codes?

    Fucking right I'm scared. Every thinking person is. Which is why Republicans in droves are supporting Clinton over Trump in this race.

    A dumbfuck like Trump should be kept as far away as possible from the launch codes.
    My problem with Clinton is that she might share those nuclear launch codes with the barista down the street.
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  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    greenblood said:

    OZONE said:

    greenblood said:

    OZONE said:

    greenblood said:

    doogie said:

    Everybody knows the Bush's and Ted Cruz support Hillary

    This and every newspaper in Texas can endorse Clinton and Trump will still beat her by 10 points there. But is ozone a quook trying to make Doogs look bad?
    The point isn't that Clinton may win Texas (she doesn't need to), the point is that the largest paper in Texas is endorsing a Democrat for the first time in 75 years -- even a candidate as bad as Clinton -- because Trump is so much worse.
    Maybe to that newspaper, but the polls show a pretty tight race. You scared?
    Scared that Clinton is such a shitty candidate that there is a chance that a huge dumbfuck like Trump might get nuclear launch codes?

    Fucking right I'm scared. Every thinking person is. Which is why Republicans in droves are supporting Clinton over Trump in this race.

    A dumbfuck like Trump should be kept as far away as possible from the launch codes.
    My problem with Clinton is that she might share those nuclear launch codes with the barista down the street.
    The barista down the street would never be able to use them. Trump would.
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  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    OZONE said:

    greenblood said:

    OZONE said:

    greenblood said:

    OZONE said:

    greenblood said:

    doogie said:

    Everybody knows the Bush's and Ted Cruz support Hillary

    This and every newspaper in Texas can endorse Clinton and Trump will still beat her by 10 points there. But is ozone a quook trying to make Doogs look bad?
    The point isn't that Clinton may win Texas (she doesn't need to), the point is that the largest paper in Texas is endorsing a Democrat for the first time in 75 years -- even a candidate as bad as Clinton -- because Trump is so much worse.
    Maybe to that newspaper, but the polls show a pretty tight race. You scared?
    Scared that Clinton is such a shitty candidate that there is a chance that a huge dumbfuck like Trump might get nuclear launch codes?

    Fucking right I'm scared. Every thinking person is. Which is why Republicans in droves are supporting Clinton over Trump in this race.

    A dumbfuck like Trump should be kept as far away as possible from the launch codes.
    My problem with Clinton is that she might share those nuclear launch codes with the barista down the street.
    The barista down the street would never be able to use them. Trump would.
    wooosh
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    The bigger threat to Trump in Texas isn't Hillary but it's Gary Johnson. I know a lot of people that are going to vote 3rd party because they don't particularly like any candidate. What many people I know are battling is the idea that while they don't like Trump most people in Texas are of the mindset that they want Hillary nowhere near the office.

    As for the Dallas Morning News, if you look at a map for where Democrats are going to be successful it is always in large urban areas. In Texas, you may find a larger percentage of people willing to support liberal policies but the rural areas are so large that it can't carry the state like it can in say Washington. Newspaper organizations in general are liberal to begin with and Dallas IMO is trying to be more and more like Austin than not. Now, if the Fort Worth Star Telegram endorses Hillary, then you may have something.

    This issue that the message isn't playing well with the Hispanics in Texas is pretty funny to me. The issues that Trump talks about with respect to border security, illegal immigration, etc. are well felt in Texas and part of everyday life. IF there's a growth in the Democratic foothold in Texas, it's likely going to be driven more by the "immigration" to Texas for jobs, etc. from other parts of the country. For example, whereas Washington was a past generation place for California residents to head as they looked for cheaper alternatives to live, that's what is happening right now in Texas.
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  • BallSacked
    BallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
    Tequilla said:

    The bigger threat to Trump in Texas isn't Hillary but it's Gary Johnson. I know a lot of people that are going to vote 3rd party because they don't particularly like any candidate. What many people I know are battling is the idea that while they don't like Trump most people in Texas are of the mindset that they want Hillary nowhere near the office.

    As for the Dallas Morning News, if you look at a map for where Democrats are going to be successful it is always in large urban areas. In Texas, you may find a larger percentage of people willing to support liberal policies but the rural areas are so large that it can't carry the state like it can in say Washington. Newspaper organizations in general are liberal to begin with and Dallas IMO is trying to be more and more like Austin than not. Now, if the Fort Worth Star Telegram endorses Hillary, then you may have something.

    This issue that the message isn't playing well with the Hispanics in Texas is pretty funny to me. The issues that Trump talks about with respect to border security, illegal immigration, etc. are well felt in Texas and part of everyday life. IF there's a growth in the Democratic foothold in Texas, it's likely going to be driven more by the "immigration" to Texas for jobs, etc. from other parts of the country. For example, whereas Washington was a past generation place for California residents to head as they looked for cheaper alternatives to live, that's what is happening right now in Texas.

    You and your fat zone defense playing friends aren't a representative sample.

    HTH
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    BallSacked said:

    Tequilla said:

    The bigger threat to Trump in Texas isn't Hillary but it's Gary Johnson. I know a lot of people that are going to vote 3rd party because they don't particularly like any candidate. What many people I know are battling is the idea that while they don't like Trump most people in Texas are of the mindset that they want Hillary nowhere near the office.

    As for the Dallas Morning News, if you look at a map for where Democrats are going to be successful it is always in large urban areas. In Texas, you may find a larger percentage of people willing to support liberal policies but the rural areas are so large that it can't carry the state like it can in say Washington. Newspaper organizations in general are liberal to begin with and Dallas IMO is trying to be more and more like Austin than not. Now, if the Fort Worth Star Telegram endorses Hillary, then you may have something.

    This issue that the message isn't playing well with the Hispanics in Texas is pretty funny to me. The issues that Trump talks about with respect to border security, illegal immigration, etc. are well felt in Texas and part of everyday life. IF there's a growth in the Democratic foothold in Texas, it's likely going to be driven more by the "immigration" to Texas for jobs, etc. from other parts of the country. For example, whereas Washington was a past generation place for California residents to head as they looked for cheaper alternatives to live, that's what is happening right now in Texas.

    You and your fat zone defense playing friends aren't a representative sample.

    HTH
    I'm more than 81% positive that I have Texas way more dialed in than you do ...

    Also, you lose all credibility with your avatar being an Idaho Vandal helmet ...

    Minor league program ...

    Minor league poster
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  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    greenblood said:

    OZONE said:

    greenblood said:

    OZONE said:

    greenblood said:

    OZONE said:

    greenblood said:

    doogie said:

    Everybody knows the Bush's and Ted Cruz support Hillary

    This and every newspaper in Texas can endorse Clinton and Trump will still beat her by 10 points there. But is ozone a quook trying to make Doogs look bad?
    The point isn't that Clinton may win Texas (she doesn't need to), the point is that the largest paper in Texas is endorsing a Democrat for the first time in 75 years -- even a candidate as bad as Clinton -- because Trump is so much worse.
    Maybe to that newspaper, but the polls show a pretty tight race. You scared?
    Scared that Clinton is such a shitty candidate that there is a chance that a huge dumbfuck like Trump might get nuclear launch codes?

    Fucking right I'm scared. Every thinking person is. Which is why Republicans in droves are supporting Clinton over Trump in this race.

    A dumbfuck like Trump should be kept as far away as possible from the launch codes.
    My problem with Clinton is that she might share those nuclear launch codes with the barista down the street.
    The barista down the street would never be able to use them. Trump would.
    wooosh
    You whooshed yourself, by missing the point. As usual.
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  • BallSacked
    BallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
    Tequilla said:

    BallSacked said:

    Tequilla said:

    The bigger threat to Trump in Texas isn't Hillary but it's Gary Johnson. I know a lot of people that are going to vote 3rd party because they don't particularly like any candidate. What many people I know are battling is the idea that while they don't like Trump most people in Texas are of the mindset that they want Hillary nowhere near the office.

    As for the Dallas Morning News, if you look at a map for where Democrats are going to be successful it is always in large urban areas. In Texas, you may find a larger percentage of people willing to support liberal policies but the rural areas are so large that it can't carry the state like it can in say Washington. Newspaper organizations in general are liberal to begin with and Dallas IMO is trying to be more and more like Austin than not. Now, if the Fort Worth Star Telegram endorses Hillary, then you may have something.

    This issue that the message isn't playing well with the Hispanics in Texas is pretty funny to me. The issues that Trump talks about with respect to border security, illegal immigration, etc. are well felt in Texas and part of everyday life. IF there's a growth in the Democratic foothold in Texas, it's likely going to be driven more by the "immigration" to Texas for jobs, etc. from other parts of the country. For example, whereas Washington was a past generation place for California residents to head as they looked for cheaper alternatives to live, that's what is happening right now in Texas.

    You and your fat zone defense playing friends aren't a representative sample.

    HTH
    I'm more than 81% positive that I have Texas way more dialed in than you do ...

    Also, you lose all credibility with your avatar being an Idaho Vandal helmet ...

    Minor league program ...

    Minor league poster
    Last time you shared annecdotal election insight "from your travels" you said trump would win. Now you say Gary Johnson might win Texas.

    You need to accept the fact you're a moron.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
    Johnson is a moron
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  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839
    OZONE said:

    greenblood said:

    OZONE said:

    greenblood said:

    doogie said:

    Everybody knows the Bush's and Ted Cruz support Hillary

    This and every newspaper in Texas can endorse Clinton and Trump will still beat her by 10 points there. But is ozone a quook trying to make Doogs look bad?
    The point isn't that Clinton may win Texas (she doesn't need to), the point is that the largest paper in Texas is endorsing a Democrat for the first time in 75 years -- even a candidate as bad as Clinton -- because Trump is so much worse.
    Maybe to that newspaper, but the polls show a pretty tight race. You scared?
    Scared that Clinton is such a shitty candidate that there is a chance that a huge dumbfuck like Trump might get nuclear launch codes?

    Fucking right I'm scared. Every thinking person is. Which is why Republicans in droves are supporting Clinton over Trump in this race.

    A dumbfuck like Trump should be kept as far away as possible from the launch codes.
    I'd feel much safer with a whore like Clinton who will sell said launch codes to the highest bidder.
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  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839
    Tequilla said:

    The bigger threat to Trump in Texas isn't Hillary but it's Gary Johnson. I know a lot of people that are going to vote 3rd party because they don't particularly like any candidate. What many people I know are battling is the idea that while they don't like Trump most people in Texas are of the mindset that they want Hillary nowhere near the office.

    As for the Dallas Morning News, if you look at a map for where Democrats are going to be successful it is always in large urban areas. In Texas, you may find a larger percentage of people willing to support liberal policies but the rural areas are so large that it can't carry the state like it can in say Washington. Newspaper organizations in general are liberal to begin with and Dallas IMO is trying to be more and more like Austin than not. Now, if the Fort Worth Star Telegram endorses Hillary, then you may have something.

    This issue that the message isn't playing well with the Hispanics in Texas is pretty funny to me. The issues that Trump talks about with respect to border security, illegal immigration, etc. are well felt in Texas and part of everyday life. IF there's a growth in the Democratic foothold in Texas, it's likely going to be driven more by the "immigration" to Texas for jobs, etc. from other parts of the country. For example, whereas Washington was a past generation place for California residents to head as they looked for cheaper alternatives to live, that's what is happening right now in Texas.

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