which team returns to glory first? USC or Miami?
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Washington.
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Alabama
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Given current coaching ... I'd say Mismi has the better chance at getting close to elite again (won't happen under Richt until he leaves) ...
As for USC, I'm hearing that the upcoming edition of the TSIO podcast will have a few thoughts on Clay Helton -
Nice source.
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A better question would be, "Who fires their coach first? USC or Miami?"
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USC: Outside of Stanford, the Pac-12 is shit and USC still draws elite talent. Helton isn't elite by any means but appears far more stable than SC's last two morons.
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That's a ringing endorsement of Helton if I've ever heard oneBaseman said:USC: Outside of Stanford, the Pac-12 is shit and USC still draws elite talent. Helton isn't elite by any means but appears far more stable than SC's last two morons.
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Cuogs
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USC
It may not be under Helton but USC is generally a recruiting juggernaut. Miami has stadium, location and facility issues and no $$$ for an immediate fix. Helton appears to be taking a Chris Petersen approach at USC. Hard to tell if he has the eye for talent and the ability to develop kids like CP does. Not to mention the fact that instilling that culture at USC will be bucked hard by players and boosters alike. USC traditionally has a flashy Sark like vibe. We have seen how hard it was to change that culture here. Imagine how much harder that would be at USC. But I still take the Trojans over the Hurricanes. Too many built in advantages long term to overlook. -
Oh and whoever wrote that shit is worse than Derek at proof reading. I've seen WSU posters have less grammatical errors.
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What are you talking about?Ice_Holmvik said:Oh and whoever wrote that shit is worse than Derek at proof reading. I've seen WSU posters have less grammatical errors.
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*fewerIce_Holmvik said:Oh and whoever wrote that shit is worse than Derek at proof reading. I've seen WSU posters have less grammatical errors.
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USC has historically, sans Pete Carroll, taken the Chris Peterson approach: Talent; check. Pedigree; check. Disappoint; check.Ice_Holmvik said:USC
It may not be under Helton but USC is generally a recruiting juggernaut. Miami has stadium, location and facility issues and no $$$ for an immediate fix. Helton appears to be taking a Chris Petersen approach at USC. Hard to tell if he has the eye for talent and the ability to develop kids like CP does. Not to mention the fact that instilling that culture at USC will be bucked hard by players and boosters alike. USC traditionally has a flashy Sark like vibe. We have seen how hard it was to change that culture here. Imagine how much harder that would be at USC. But I still take the Trojans over the Hurricanes. Too many built in advantages long term to overlook. -
You're source is the TSIO podcast?Tequilla said:Given current coaching ... I'd say Mismi has the better chance at getting close to elite again (won't happen under Richt until he leaves) ...
As for USC, I'm hearing that the upcoming edition of the TSIO podcast will have a few thoughts on Clay Helton -
But still...it's hard.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
*fewerIce_Holmvik said:Oh and whoever wrote that shit is worse than Derek at proof reading. I've seen WSU posters have less grammatical errors.
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Unless the city gets its coke culture back, Miami will never return to glory.
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I'd rather you just told me to fuck off than come at me like that.DerekJohnson said:
What are you talking about?Ice_Holmvik said:Oh and whoever wrote that shit is worse than Derek at proof reading. I've seen WSU posters have less grammatical errors.
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— Collyn Taylor (@collynptaylor) July 13, 2016 " />TierbsHsotBoobs said:Alabama
Also, this is hands down my favorite photo I've ever taken. pic.twitter.com/GrTatCD9C1
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Miami has never relied on stadium or facilities, it's been all about coaching, recruiting the nastiest players South Florida can produce and mixing in a decent college quarterback. Richt knows how to recruit that area, and he's a hell of a lot more proven than Helton, who's been coaching under two of the biggest douche bags to ever coach at USC. Just my 0.02, but I think Miami will get back on track before USC will.Ice_Holmvik said:USC
It may not be under Helton but USC is generally a recruiting juggernaut. Miami has stadium, location and facility issues and no $$$ for an immediate fix. Helton appears to be taking a Chris Petersen approach at USC. Hard to tell if he has the eye for talent and the ability to develop kids like CP does. Not to mention the fact that instilling that culture at USC will be bucked hard by players and boosters alike. USC traditionally has a flashy Sark like vibe. We have seen how hard it was to change that culture here. Imagine how much harder that would be at USC. But I still take the Trojans over the Hurricanes. Too many built in advantages long term to overlook. -
It's probably the same thing. First one to fire the head moron in charge = first one with a shot to return to glory.bananasnblondes said:A better question would be, "Who fires their coach first? USC or Miami?"
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Fuck offIce_Holmvik said:
I'd rather you just told me to fuck off than come at me like that.DerekJohnson said:
What are you talking about?Ice_Holmvik said:Oh and whoever wrote that shit is worse than Derek at proof reading. I've seen WSU posters have less grammatical errors.
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Reliable... Thanks Grampa Race.RaceBannon said:
Fuck offIce_Holmvik said:
I'd rather you just told me to fuck off than come at me like that.DerekJohnson said:
What are you talking about?Ice_Holmvik said:Oh and whoever wrote that shit is worse than Derek at proof reading. I've seen WSU posters have less grammatical errors.
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Less of a moron than the last asshole is a solid compliment in the pest control management game.Tequilla said:
That's a ringing endorsement of Helton if I've ever heard oneBaseman said:USC: Outside of Stanford, the Pac-12 is shit and USC still draws elite talent. Helton isn't elite by any means but appears far more stable than SC's last two morons.
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I like whoever hires the right guy on the next go around after Richt and Helton.
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I thought this thread was going to be about Glory Holes
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The simple answer is whatever school hires the right coach first. I would say USC is more likely.
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Miami.
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