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    GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,481
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    edited June 2016

    A No-Guns List Still Isn’t an Answer

    How does a person prove they are not a terrorist? It’s virtually impossible. A no-flyer doesn’t receive the evidence against them or a hearing before being placed on the list. They are not allowed to confront their accuser. Even getting the government to acknowledge that a person is on the list may require lengthy and expensive litigation. A person on the no-fly list may not even know they are on the list until they’re refused service at the airport. A person on the broader terror watch list has no means of finding out. The system is devoid of anything resembling due process, a flaw The New York Times condemned as being intolerable in a free and democratic society and over which the American Civil Liberties Union is currently suing the Obama administration. The no-fly listing procedure has already been declared unconstitutional by at least one federal judge.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,762
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    No process needed for foreigners. The problem is taking a citizens constutional right without due process. Trey Gowdy had a great explanation. If we can suspend the 2nd why not others? But how's this all going to work? The FBI talked to this guy who did Orlando 3 times yet did nothing. How can they vet the hundreds of thousands they want to bring here?
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    Because the Orlando shooter wasn't actually vetted.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,762
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    2001400ex said:

    Because the Orlando shooter wasn't actually vetted.

    Are you actually think fucking stupid?
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,762
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    2001400ex said:

    Because the Orlando shooter wasn't actually vetted.

    2001400ex said:

    Because the Orlando shooter wasn't actually vetted.

    So the 4th, 5th and 6th amendments are out the window as far as you're concerned along with the 2nd. Hell that's only the beginning.

    How about we toss the 8th if someone you know is in jail and use cruel and unusual punishment? Never mind if they knew you they've already been a victim of it.
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    HippopeteamusHippopeteamus Member Posts: 1,946
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    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Because the Orlando shooter wasn't actually vetted.

    2001400ex said:

    Because the Orlando shooter wasn't actually vetted.

    So the 4th, 5th and 6th amendments are out the window as far as you're concerned along with the 2nd. Hell that's only the beginning.

    How about we toss the 8th if someone you know is in jail and use cruel and unusual punishment? Never mind if they knew you they've already been a victim of it.
    Exactly. Regardless of your views on gun control, the violation of a right that is recognized by the constitution should not be taken away without due process.
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