WARRIORS CAVS FINALS THREAD
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Doogs hate winners.allpurpleallgold said:Good gameplan by the Cavs. Nothing you can do when the opposing teams role players shoot 90%.
Also I'm hearing the 72 win Bulls could never shut down Curry and Thompson, even though the 57 win Cleveland Cavaliers just did. -
I see that the GOAT showed how valuable he is with those 11 points
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Good point about Allen I think I repressed those memories.allpurpleallgold said:
As an alleged Grizzlies fan you should know that series flipped when Golden State stopped guarding Tony Allen so Memphis couldn't play him. Not because you can't possibly ever stop them for a full series.dnc said:
Can't speak for anyone else, but my claim is the 96 Bulls could not shut them down for the course of a 7 game series. For a game or 2? Sure, shooters have off nights, that's the nature of shooters. Memphis shut them down for a couple games last year too. Cleveland did to start the series last year as well. Klay's more inconsistent, but Steph always adjusts and finds his rhythm. He'll go off in this series too. Even though he might not need to.allpurpleallgold said:Good gameplan by the Cavs. Nothing you can do when the opposing teams role players shoot 90%.
Also I'm hearing the 72 win Bulls could never shut down Curry and Thompson, even though the 57 win Cleveland Cavaliers just did.
Seriously, you're saying the 2015 Memphis Grizzlies did it twice so that's the max, no one could ever be better than them. Nearly as stupid as saying some fucking rando Blazers player couldn't guard Steph therefore no one ever could.
I'm not saying two games is the max necessarily. I don't know what the max is. I am saying he has a history of having a bad game here or there or even a couple but always eventually finds his shot. I expect the same in this series.
I'll grant you what Barbosa and Livingston did last night is not repeatable. Do you think Cleveland is shutting Steph and Klay down like this multiple more times this series? I don't. -
Winners win.RaceBannon said:I see that the GOAT showed how valuable he is with those 11 points
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He won. Lebron didn't.RaceBannon said:I see that the GOAT showed how valuable he is with those 11 points
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Winners win always had limitations as a guiding principle.
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The point is that the Warriors have changed the game due to Kerr not Curry. He let Curry loose and plays 10 guys. It's a team not Curry as Jordan
If Curry had been drafted by George Karl he'd never get off the bench.
The Warriors are winners. -
Right, Curry's just a role player. "RaceBannon said:The point is that the Warriors have changed the game due to Kerr not Curry. He let Curry loose and plays 10 guys. It's a team not Curry as Jordan
If Curry had been drafted by George Karl he'd never get off the bench.
The Warriors are winners.
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Totally agree here.RaceBannon said:The point is that the Warriors have changed the game due to Kerr not Curry. He let Curry loose and plays 10 guys. It's a team not Curry as Jordan
If Curry had been drafted by George Karl he'd never get off the bench.
The Warriors are winners.
Coaching matters. -
Disagree.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Totally agree here.RaceBannon said:The point is that the Warriors have changed the game due to Kerr not Curry. He let Curry loose and plays 10 guys. It's a team not Curry as Jordan
If Curry had been drafted by George Karl he'd never get off the bench.
The Warriors are winners.
Coaching matters.
True greats like Jordan never needed a coaching change to win a ring... -
Uhhh.....dnc said:
Disagree.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Totally agree here.RaceBannon said:The point is that the Warriors have changed the game due to Kerr not Curry. He let Curry loose and plays 10 guys. It's a team not Curry as Jordan
If Curry had been drafted by George Karl he'd never get off the bench.
The Warriors are winners.
Coaching matters.
True greats like Jordan never needed a coaching change to win a ring...
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Huh....PurpleThrobber said:
Uhhh.....dnc said:
Disagree.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Totally agree here.RaceBannon said:The point is that the Warriors have changed the game due to Kerr not Curry. He let Curry loose and plays 10 guys. It's a team not Curry as Jordan
If Curry had been drafted by George Karl he'd never get off the bench.
The Warriors are winners.
Coaching matters.
True greats like Jordan never needed a coaching change to win a ring... -
THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAIDdnc said:
Right, Curry's just a role player. "RaceBannon said:The point is that the Warriors have changed the game due to Kerr not Curry. He let Curry loose and plays 10 guys. It's a team not Curry as Jordan
If Curry had been drafted by George Karl he'd never get off the bench.
The Warriors are winners. " -
Belongs on the higher level discussion bored. Too #chinsightful for the commoners.PurpleThrobber said:
When your rookie head coach who was never more than a role player 'schemes' to shut down two players, he gets schooled by a head coach who won multiple championships as both a player and a coach.allpurpleallgold said:Good gameplan by the Cavs. Nothing you can do when the opposing teams role players shoot 90%.
Also I'm hearing the 72 win Bulls could never shut down Curry and Thompson, even though the 57 win Cleveland Cavaliers just did.
Spacing. -
I know right???allpurpleallgold said:
I love new NBA fans that think the Warriors invented spacing.PurpleThrobber said:
When your rookie head coach who was never more than a role player 'schemes' to shut down two players, he gets schooled by a head coach who won multiple championships as both a player and a coach.allpurpleallgold said:Good gameplan by the Cavs. Nothing you can do when the opposing teams role players shoot 90%.
Also I'm hearing the 72 win Bulls could never shut down Curry and Thompson, even though the 57 win Cleveland Cavaliers just did.
Spacing.
Livingston and Barbosa threw up a bunch of contested shots that went in with Curry and/or Thompson on the bench. Congrats on watching your first NBA game.
The Warriors would have never won if they didn't put the ball in the basket so much. -
RaceBannon said:
THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAIDdnc said:
Right, Curry's just a role player. "RaceBannon said:The point is that the Warriors have changed the game due to Kerr not Curry. He let Curry loose and plays 10 guys. It's a team not Curry as Jordan
If Curry had been drafted by George Karl he'd never get off the bench.
The Warriors are winners. " 
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Mark Jackson says hi
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Firing him and hiring Kerr was racist!RaceBannon said:Mark Jackson says hi
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Cleveland is most likely not doing that again.dnc said:
Good point about Allen I think I repressed those memories.allpurpleallgold said:
As an alleged Grizzlies fan you should know that series flipped when Golden State stopped guarding Tony Allen so Memphis couldn't play him. Not because you can't possibly ever stop them for a full series.dnc said:
Can't speak for anyone else, but my claim is the 96 Bulls could not shut them down for the course of a 7 game series. For a game or 2? Sure, shooters have off nights, that's the nature of shooters. Memphis shut them down for a couple games last year too. Cleveland did to start the series last year as well. Klay's more inconsistent, but Steph always adjusts and finds his rhythm. He'll go off in this series too. Even though he might not need to.allpurpleallgold said:Good gameplan by the Cavs. Nothing you can do when the opposing teams role players shoot 90%.
Also I'm hearing the 72 win Bulls could never shut down Curry and Thompson, even though the 57 win Cleveland Cavaliers just did.
Seriously, you're saying the 2015 Memphis Grizzlies did it twice so that's the max, no one could ever be better than them. Nearly as stupid as saying some fucking rando Blazers player couldn't guard Steph therefore no one ever could.
I'm not saying two games is the max necessarily. I don't know what the max is. I am saying he has a history of having a bad game here or there or even a couple but always eventually finds his shot. I expect the same in this series.
I'll grant you what Barbosa and Livingston did last night is not repeatable. Do you think Cleveland is shutting Steph and Klay down like this multiple more times this series? I don't.
But just to be clear on my point on the whole Bulls/Warriors comparison, I don't think the Bulls would just clamp down and hold those guys to 0 points, I think they'd make them have to work harder to be less efficient. Tony Allen is really the only top tier perimeter defender those two have had to deal with in the last two years and he gave them hell. If you make those two less efficient and more tired then I think you beat Golden State. They won the last game but, you know, Cleveland. -
Can't really disagree with much of this. I definitely think Pippen/Jordan would affect Steph and Klay. I just think Steph would still get his over the course of the series. And Tony Allen is a special kind of crazy. First team. All defense.allpurpleallgold said:
Cleveland is most likely not doing that again.dnc said:
Good point about Allen I think I repressed those memories.allpurpleallgold said:
As an alleged Grizzlies fan you should know that series flipped when Golden State stopped guarding Tony Allen so Memphis couldn't play him. Not because you can't possibly ever stop them for a full series.dnc said:
Can't speak for anyone else, but my claim is the 96 Bulls could not shut them down for the course of a 7 game series. For a game or 2? Sure, shooters have off nights, that's the nature of shooters. Memphis shut them down for a couple games last year too. Cleveland did to start the series last year as well. Klay's more inconsistent, but Steph always adjusts and finds his rhythm. He'll go off in this series too. Even though he might not need to.allpurpleallgold said:Good gameplan by the Cavs. Nothing you can do when the opposing teams role players shoot 90%.
Also I'm hearing the 72 win Bulls could never shut down Curry and Thompson, even though the 57 win Cleveland Cavaliers just did.
Seriously, you're saying the 2015 Memphis Grizzlies did it twice so that's the max, no one could ever be better than them. Nearly as stupid as saying some fucking rando Blazers player couldn't guard Steph therefore no one ever could.
I'm not saying two games is the max necessarily. I don't know what the max is. I am saying he has a history of having a bad game here or there or even a couple but always eventually finds his shot. I expect the same in this series.
I'll grant you what Barbosa and Livingston did last night is not repeatable. Do you think Cleveland is shutting Steph and Klay down like this multiple more times this series? I don't.
But just to be clear on my point on the whole Bulls/Warriors comparison, I don't think the Bulls would just clamp down and hold those guys to 0 points, I think they'd make them have to work harder to be less efficient. Tony Allen is really the only top tier perimeter defender those two have had to deal with in the last two years and he gave them hell. If you make those two less efficient and more tired then I think you beat Golden State. They won the last game but, you know, Cleveland. -
Kreist....dnc said:
Can't really disagree with much of this. I definitely think Pippen/Jordan would affect Steph and Klay. I just think Steph would still get his over the course of the series. And Tony Allen is a special kind of crazy. First team. All defense.allpurpleallgold said:
Cleveland is most likely not doing that again.dnc said:
Good point about Allen I think I repressed those memories.allpurpleallgold said:
As an alleged Grizzlies fan you should know that series flipped when Golden State stopped guarding Tony Allen so Memphis couldn't play him. Not because you can't possibly ever stop them for a full series.dnc said:
Can't speak for anyone else, but my claim is the 96 Bulls could not shut them down for the course of a 7 game series. For a game or 2? Sure, shooters have off nights, that's the nature of shooters. Memphis shut them down for a couple games last year too. Cleveland did to start the series last year as well. Klay's more inconsistent, but Steph always adjusts and finds his rhythm. He'll go off in this series too. Even though he might not need to.allpurpleallgold said:Good gameplan by the Cavs. Nothing you can do when the opposing teams role players shoot 90%.
Also I'm hearing the 72 win Bulls could never shut down Curry and Thompson, even though the 57 win Cleveland Cavaliers just did.
Seriously, you're saying the 2015 Memphis Grizzlies did it twice so that's the max, no one could ever be better than them. Nearly as stupid as saying some fucking rando Blazers player couldn't guard Steph therefore no one ever could.
I'm not saying two games is the max necessarily. I don't know what the max is. I am saying he has a history of having a bad game here or there or even a couple but always eventually finds his shot. I expect the same in this series.
I'll grant you what Barbosa and Livingston did last night is not repeatable. Do you think Cleveland is shutting Steph and Klay down like this multiple more times this series? I don't.
But just to be clear on my point on the whole Bulls/Warriors comparison, I don't think the Bulls would just clamp down and hold those guys to 0 points, I think they'd make them have to work harder to be less efficient. Tony Allen is really the only top tier perimeter defender those two have had to deal with in the last two years and he gave them hell. If you make those two less efficient and more tired then I think you beat Golden State. They won the last game but, you know, Cleveland.
I'll take irrelevant posts and those that agree with them for $400 Alex.
Everybody gets shut down by somebody every now and then unless they're a loser like Durant or LeBron James and brick or choke as many shots as points scored or sometimes more shots than points.
When it's not your night, you defer to the other guys who A) Have a better matchup or B. Have it goin' that particular night. or C) Abundance.
The Splash Brothers who struggled, put the game away in the 4th quarter with b2b 3's when they needed them.
Tony Allen isn't in the series nor is Michael Jordan.
I for one just hope there's no injuries due to the slippery floor tonight. -
Ragged game.
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Dubs D stifling all night and another night another different scorer. LeBron has almost double digit turnovers thru 3 qtrs. he's not a winner.
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Oh my warm up the Bus and warm up the PA for the TSIO podcast. No Natty for the 'Land edition.
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But Lebron doesn't have a team!!1!salemcoog said:Dubs D stifling all night and another night another different scorer. LeBron has almost double digit turnovers thru 3 qtrs. he's not a winner.
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It's a 7 game series.
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FTFYPurpleJ said:It's a 4 game series.
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NotBillWalton is a bitch.
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You've been whooshed through this whole thread. Go back to talking something you understand like Packers football.salemcoog said:
Kreist....dnc said:
Can't really disagree with much of this. I definitely think Pippen/Jordan would affect Steph and Klay. I just think Steph would still get his over the course of the series. And Tony Allen is a special kind of crazy. First team. All defense.allpurpleallgold said:
Cleveland is most likely not doing that again.dnc said:
Good point about Allen I think I repressed those memories.allpurpleallgold said:
As an alleged Grizzlies fan you should know that series flipped when Golden State stopped guarding Tony Allen so Memphis couldn't play him. Not because you can't possibly ever stop them for a full series.dnc said:
Can't speak for anyone else, but my claim is the 96 Bulls could not shut them down for the course of a 7 game series. For a game or 2? Sure, shooters have off nights, that's the nature of shooters. Memphis shut them down for a couple games last year too. Cleveland did to start the series last year as well. Klay's more inconsistent, but Steph always adjusts and finds his rhythm. He'll go off in this series too. Even though he might not need to.allpurpleallgold said:Good gameplan by the Cavs. Nothing you can do when the opposing teams role players shoot 90%.
Also I'm hearing the 72 win Bulls could never shut down Curry and Thompson, even though the 57 win Cleveland Cavaliers just did.
Seriously, you're saying the 2015 Memphis Grizzlies did it twice so that's the max, no one could ever be better than them. Nearly as stupid as saying some fucking rando Blazers player couldn't guard Steph therefore no one ever could.
I'm not saying two games is the max necessarily. I don't know what the max is. I am saying he has a history of having a bad game here or there or even a couple but always eventually finds his shot. I expect the same in this series.
I'll grant you what Barbosa and Livingston did last night is not repeatable. Do you think Cleveland is shutting Steph and Klay down like this multiple more times this series? I don't.
But just to be clear on my point on the whole Bulls/Warriors comparison, I don't think the Bulls would just clamp down and hold those guys to 0 points, I think they'd make them have to work harder to be less efficient. Tony Allen is really the only top tier perimeter defender those two have had to deal with in the last two years and he gave them hell. If you make those two less efficient and more tired then I think you beat Golden State. They won the last game but, you know, Cleveland.
I'll take irrelevant posts and those that agree with them for $400 Alex.
Everybody gets shut down by somebody every now and then unless they're a loser like Durant or LeBron James and brick or choke as many shots as points scored or sometimes more shots than points.
When it's not your night, you defer to the other guys who A) Have a better matchup or B. Have it goin' that particular night. or C) Abundance.
The Splash Brothers who struggled, put the game away in the 4th quarter with b2b 3's when they needed them.
Tony Allen isn't in the series nor is Michael Jordan.
I for one just hope there's no injuries due to the slippery floor tonight.
