Apparently, there's a gay NFL player...
Who do you guys think it is?
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Sven's $20 to whoever guesses correctly.
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Depending on who you believe its anywhere from 1% to 10% of the league as that is the overall number. The over under is 5%
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Almost got in a fight in Corvallis when I made fun of Esera Tualo (sp).......
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I bet it's a kicker or punter.
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I don't want to get into a fight with any of you, but I think it's about time. First of all, I applaud the NFL for not allowing teams to ask about sexual orientation during the combine interviews. Why the hell should it matter? If some players have problems with a gay teammate, then THEY are the ones with the problem! If a gay player isn't making inappropriate advances toward a teammate (or breaking some other neutral code of conduct provision), then who cares?
I was pretty ticked off at Hugh Millen for saying (on KJR) that teams should have the right to ask about this. Uhh...why, Hugh? Should they also ask if a player is a Jew? Muslim? Catholic? How about if he is black but dates white women? Millen also said that some teams have more of an interest because they are in more difficult communities (San Francisco vs. Houston). So, fans will stop coming to games because 1 player is gay?
Apologies for going on a rant (actually...I'm not sorry). It's just time to get over this. I have plenty of gay friends in DC, and none of them have ever made me feel the least bit uncomfortable.
Now...allowing whites and blacks to use the same restrooms? That is something I can't tolerate. :-) -
So...who do you think it is?Passion said:I don't want to get into a fight with any of you, but I think it's about time. First of all, I applaud the NFL for not allowing teams to ask about sexual orientation during the combine interviews. Why the hell should it matter? If some players have problems with a gay teammate, then THEY are the ones with the problem! If a gay player isn't making inappropriate advances toward a teammate (or breaking some other neutral code of conduct provision), then who cares?
I was pretty ticked off at Hugh Millen for saying (on KJR) that teams should have the right to ask about this. Uhh...why, Hugh? Should they also ask if a player is a Jew? Muslim? Catholic? How about if he is black but dates white women? Millen also said that some teams have more of an interest because they are in more difficult communities (San Francisco vs. Houston). So, fans will stop coming to games because 1 player is gay?
Apologies for going on a rant (actually...I'm not sorry). It's just time to get over this. I have plenty of gay friends in DC, and none of them have ever made me feel the least bit uncomfortable.
Now...allowing whites and blacks to use the same restrooms? That is something I can't tolerate. :-) -
uhhh...probably not Ben Roethlesberger.
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Tim Tebow?
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Probably a running back. Best play is hitting the two hole.
Btw. I supports the gays. I support the troops and am against war. I'm also anti poverty. I hate cancer and I want to save the tatas. I'm against global warming and am pro clean water for everyone. I think the income inequity in this country is a travesty and think we should hate 1% because the get rich off the backs of the 99%. I am also anti gmo food. I'm a hit at cocktail parties. Everyone thinks I'm really cool because I show I care about others and that we should share. -
$100 says Passion changed his Facebook picture to the red equal sign. It's the least he could do. So he did that.
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I bet you're also against hunger, too.MikeDamone said:Probably a running back. Best play is hitting the two hole.
Btw. I supports the gays. I support the troops and am against war. I'm also anti poverty. I hate cancer and I want to save the tatas. I'm against global warming and am pro clean water for everyone. I think the income inequity in this country is a travesty and think we should hate 1% because the get rich off the backs of the 99%. I am also anti gmo food. I'm a hit at cocktail parties. Everyone thinks I'm really cool because I show I care about others and that we should share. -
Actually, I didn't do the red sign. What I did do, however, is sit back and make snarky comments on the internet about anyone who cared about it. Actually, that's what I do about anyone that cares about anything.
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That was pretty goodPassion said:Actually, I didn't do the red sign. What I did do, however, is sit back and make snarky comments on the internet about anyone who cared about it. Actually, that's what I do about anyone that cares about anything.
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I'm learning the culture of this website. Gawd help me if it completely takes over my personality.RaceBannon said:
That was pretty goodPassion said:Actually, I didn't do the red sign. What I did do, however, is sit back and make snarky comments on the internet about anyone who cared about it. Actually, that's what I do about anyone that cares about anything.
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Resistance is futile, young SkywalkerPassion said:
I'm learning the culture of this website. Gawd help me if it completely takes over my personality.RaceBannon said:
That was pretty goodPassion said:Actually, I didn't do the red sign. What I did do, however, is sit back and make snarky comments on the internet about anyone who cared about it. Actually, that's what I do about anyone that cares about anything.
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Duh. Chip Kelly is now in the NFL.
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I'll keep my answer on the down low.
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Ironically enough, whoever it is is going to become the next Tim Tebow, albeit to a different group of people. Whichever active player is the first to come out is going to cause a media circus and be painted as a national hero no matter how crappy of a football player he may or may not be. He will become bigger than the team, and his story will become bigger than wins and losses.section8 said:Tim Tebow?
Like Tebow he'll obviously have his share of haters, but in this case they'll be mostly relegated to anonymous message boards, private conversations and a few randoms yelling slurs from the stands. No one in the mainstream media will dare say anything but the most glowing things possible, and the home stadium will fill up with signs of support. His jersey sales will increase tenfold at a bare minimum.
I'm sure it's not him, but the player who would stand the most to gain from coming out is Michael Vick. More likely it's someone fairly anonymous who will never be anonymous again. -
Some things can't be unlearned.Passion said:
I'm learning the culture of this website. Gawd help me if it completely takes over my personality.RaceBannon said:
That was pretty goodPassion said:Actually, I didn't do the red sign. What I did do, however, is sit back and make snarky comments on the internet about anyone who cared about it. Actually, that's what I do about anyone that cares about anything.
HardcoreHusky will invade real life. Believe dat.
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For the first NFL player that "comes out," his performance on the field is irrelevant, IMO. Rather, it's the courage to step out of the closet in perhaps the most machismo professional sport. There are already ways to recognize great players - MVP, Pro Bowl, increased salary, bonus, etc. I don't quite see anything wrong with positive public recognition of a guy that becomes the first to say he's gay.HillsboroDuck said:
Ironically enough, whoever it is is going to become the next Tim Tebow, albeit to a different group of people. Whichever active player is the first to come out is going to cause a media circus and be painted as a national hero no matter how crappy of a football player he may or may not be. He will become bigger than the team, and his story will become bigger than wins and losses.section8 said:Tim Tebow?
Like Tebow he'll obviously have his share of haters, but in this case they'll be mostly relegated to anonymous message boards, private conversations and a few randoms yelling slurs from the stands. No one in the mainstream media will dare say anything but the most glowing things possible, and the home stadium will fill up with signs of support. His jersey sales will increase tenfold at a bare minimum.
I'm sure it's not him, but the player who would stand the most to gain from coming out is Michael Vick. More likely it's someone fairly anonymous who will never be anonymous again.
You said the "mainstream media" will not criticize him. Well, why would the media criticize him? If he fumbles the ball, misses tackles, or drops passes, then criticize him like any other player. But criticize just because he's gay?
Heck, when grinolds, fetters, and eklund eventually reveal their own torrid love triangle, I will still limit my criticism to the way they've destroyed dawgman.com.
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If that's not an embedded lemon drop, I'm not sure what is.Passion said:
For the first NFL player that "comes out," his performance on the field is irrelevant, IMO. Rather, it's the courage to step out of the closet in perhaps the most machismo professional sport. There are already ways to recognize great players - MVP, Pro Bowl, increased salary, bonus, etc. I don't quite see anything wrong with positive public recognition of a guy that becomes the first to say he's gay.HillsboroDuck said:
Ironically enough, whoever it is is going to become the next Tim Tebow, albeit to a different group of people. Whichever active player is the first to come out is going to cause a media circus and be painted as a national hero no matter how crappy of a football player he may or may not be. He will become bigger than the team, and his story will become bigger than wins and losses.section8 said:Tim Tebow?
Like Tebow he'll obviously have his share of haters, but in this case they'll be mostly relegated to anonymous message boards, private conversations and a few randoms yelling slurs from the stands. No one in the mainstream media will dare say anything but the most glowing things possible, and the home stadium will fill up with signs of support. His jersey sales will increase tenfold at a bare minimum.
I'm sure it's not him, but the player who would stand the most to gain from coming out is Michael Vick. More likely it's someone fairly anonymous who will never be anonymous again.
You said the "mainstream media" will not criticize him. Well, why would the media criticize him? If he fumbles the ball, misses tackles, or drops passes, then criticize him like any other player. But criticize just because he's gay?
Heck, when grinolds, fetters, and eklund eventually reveal their own torrid love triangle, I will still limit my criticism to the way they've destroyed dawgman.com.
Well done, sir.
I'm just saying that whoever it is this is going to be, by far, the best thing that ever happened to their image.
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You should do more. If you don't do the red symbol, then how will everyone know how progressive and open minded you are? And it doesn't even cost you anything. I'm a bit more action oriented. I'm thinking banging a lesbian to show my solidarity.Passion said:Actually, I didn't do the red sign. What I did do, however, is sit back and make snarky comments on the internet about anyone who cared about it. Actually, that's what I do about anyone that cares about anything.
Btw. Use the word snarky here again and you're going to get a time out. Friggin A.
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Well, I think if it's Peyton Manning or Brian Urlacher, it's a little more complicated. Their reputations are already pretty awesome. If it's a 3rd string offensive linemen for the Detroit Lions, then I probably agree with you. Where the hell would Jesse Palmer be if he hadn't gone on "The Bachelor?" What a douche...HillsboroDuck said:
If that's not an embedded lemon drop, I'm not sure what is.Passion said:
For the first NFL player that "comes out," his performance on the field is irrelevant, IMO. Rather, it's the courage to step out of the closet in perhaps the most machismo professional sport. There are already ways to recognize great players - MVP, Pro Bowl, increased salary, bonus, etc. I don't quite see anything wrong with positive public recognition of a guy that becomes the first to say he's gay.HillsboroDuck said:
Ironically enough, whoever it is is going to become the next Tim Tebow, albeit to a different group of people. Whichever active player is the first to come out is going to cause a media circus and be painted as a national hero no matter how crappy of a football player he may or may not be. He will become bigger than the team, and his story will become bigger than wins and losses.section8 said:Tim Tebow?
Like Tebow he'll obviously have his share of haters, but in this case they'll be mostly relegated to anonymous message boards, private conversations and a few randoms yelling slurs from the stands. No one in the mainstream media will dare say anything but the most glowing things possible, and the home stadium will fill up with signs of support. His jersey sales will increase tenfold at a bare minimum.
I'm sure it's not him, but the player who would stand the most to gain from coming out is Michael Vick. More likely it's someone fairly anonymous who will never be anonymous again.
You said the "mainstream media" will not criticize him. Well, why would the media criticize him? If he fumbles the ball, misses tackles, or drops passes, then criticize him like any other player. But criticize just because he's gay?
Heck, when grinolds, fetters, and eklund eventually reveal their own torrid love triangle, I will still limit my criticism to the way they've destroyed dawgman.com.
Well done, sir.
I'm just saying that whoever it is this is going to be, by far, the best thing that ever happened to their image. -
Most of the lesbians I've seen aren't "bangable." You might as well hook up with Danny Devito.MikeDamone said:
You should do more. If you don't do the red symbol, then how will everyone know how progressive and open minded you are? And it doesn't even cost you anything. I'm a bit more action oriented. I'm thinking banging a lesbian to show my solidarity.Passion said:Actually, I didn't do the red sign. What I did do, however, is sit back and make snarky comments on the internet about anyone who cared about it. Actually, that's what I do about anyone that cares about anything.
Btw. Use the word snarky here again and you're going to get a time out. Friggin A.
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I hope it's Michael Vick. People (and the media) wanted him drawn and quartered for killing dogs with more hate than of he'd killed people. If he turns out to be gay, they will have to embrace him as a hero. That would be fun to see. Coming out would undo all past wrongs. It would be a great PR move. FREE PUB!
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They are out there if you dig around a bit.Passion said:
Most of the lesbians I've seen aren't "bangable." You might as well hook up with Danny Devito.MikeDamone said:
You should do more. If you don't do the red symbol, then how will everyone know how progressive and open minded you are? And it doesn't even cost you anything. I'm a bit more action oriented. I'm thinking banging a lesbian to show my solidarity.Passion said:Actually, I didn't do the red sign. What I did do, however, is sit back and make snarky comments on the internet about anyone who cared about it. Actually, that's what I do about anyone that cares about anything.
Btw. Use the word snarky here again and you're going to get a time out. Friggin A.
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I like how Kim has been trying to spread this rumor. He's been running around for the past 4 months telling people that Chip is gay.WhiskeyDawg said:Duh. Chip Kelly is now in the NFL.
Even if its true, it's truly a case of who gives a shit. If my favorite teams' football coach went 46-7, won 3 conference titles, went to 4 BCS games including the National Championship game, and won a Rose Bowl and popped off.... he could be gayer than Rock Hudson and Greg Louganis put together and I'd be fine with it.
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Not so fast. I think it'd be a mixed bag. You'd have the animal rights people fighting the gay rights people. Maybe Don King can promote it?MikeDamone said:I hope it's Michael Vick. People (and the media) wanted him drawn and quartered for killing dogs with more hate than of he'd killed people. If he turns out to be gay, they will have to embrace him as a hero. That would be fun to see. Coming out would undo all past wrongs. It would be a great PR move. FREE PUB!
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The beauty of it is the gay rights people and the animal rights people are mostly the same people.Passion said:
Not so fast. I think it'd be a mixed bag. You'd have the animal rights people fighting the gay rights people. Maybe Don King can promote it?MikeDamone said:I hope it's Michael Vick. People (and the media) wanted him drawn and quartered for killing dogs with more hate than of he'd killed people. If he turns out to be gay, they will have to embrace him as a hero. That would be fun to see. Coming out would undo all past wrongs. It would be a great PR move. FREE PUB!
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Tebow was criticized and mocked for being overly open about his faith. The mainstream media typically goes out of their way to mock Christianity.Passion said:
For the first NFL player that "comes out," his performance on the field is irrelevant, IMO. Rather, it's the courage to step out of the closet in perhaps the most machismo professional sport. There are already ways to recognize great players - MVP, Pro Bowl, increased salary, bonus, etc. I don't quite see anything wrong with positive public recognition of a guy that becomes the first to say he's gay.HillsboroDuck said:
Ironically enough, whoever it is is going to become the next Tim Tebow, albeit to a different group of people. Whichever active player is the first to come out is going to cause a media circus and be painted as a national hero no matter how crappy of a football player he may or may not be. He will become bigger than the team, and his story will become bigger than wins and losses.section8 said:Tim Tebow?
Like Tebow he'll obviously have his share of haters, but in this case they'll be mostly relegated to anonymous message boards, private conversations and a few randoms yelling slurs from the stands. No one in the mainstream media will dare say anything but the most glowing things possible, and the home stadium will fill up with signs of support. His jersey sales will increase tenfold at a bare minimum.
I'm sure it's not him, but the player who would stand the most to gain from coming out is Michael Vick. More likely it's someone fairly anonymous who will never be anonymous again.
You said the "mainstream media" will not criticize him. Well, why would the media criticize him? If he fumbles the ball, misses tackles, or drops passes, then criticize him like any other player. But criticize just because he's gay?
Heck, when grinolds, fetters, and eklund eventually reveal their own torrid love triangle, I will still limit my criticism to the way they've destroyed dawgman.com.
Now if an NFL player comes out, he'll be praised as a hero, full of courage and an inspiration to the world.
In my opinion, bigging fucking deal for either of them. Tebow sucks as a QB. The gay guy might be an all-pro or a 3rd stringer. As he does his fucking job, who cares which hole he prefers?
