Who deserves the most credit for the Mariners’ early success?
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Edgar's supplier.
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The name of his restaurant is Edgar's Cantina, not Edgar's Supplier.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Edgar's supplier.
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DiPoto for putting together a decent roster.
Other than Seager, Cruz and Cano, the entire lineup was remade. Smith and Guti were around last year too, and Marte was developing, but basically 3 opening day starters are all that returned from last season. The 1B, DH, and outfield platoons are also more thoughtfully deployed to maximize R vs L match ups. Instead of a few good hitters surrounded by dreck, the entire lineup is producing at a reasonable level. And they actually play defense.
The rotation is mostly the same, but Miley and Karns have outperformed expectations and their predecessors as back end starters. Despite blowing a few saves already, Cishek is better than Rodney, and the bullpen overall is one of the best in the league (after losing some of the top guys from a year before).
It's weird to say this about a Mariners team, but the starting rotation is the biggest weakness. -
That's a very thoughtful breakdown, but I would say that in time Cishek and the leadoff spot will prove to be the biggest weaknesses.ThomasFremont said:DiPoto for putting together a decent roster.
Other than Seager, Cruz and Cano, the entire lineup was remade. Smith and Guti were around last year too, and Marte was developing, but basically 3 opening day starters are all that returned from last season. The 1B, DH, and outfield platoons are also more thoughtfully deployed to maximize R vs L match ups. Instead of a few good hitters surrounded by dreck, the entire lineup is producing at a reasonable level. And they actually play defense.
The rotation is mostly the same, but Miley and Karns have outperformed expectations and their predecessors as back end starters. Despite blowing a few saves already, Cishek is better than Rodney, and the bullpen overall is one of the best in the league (after losing some of the top guys from a year before).
It's weird to say this about a Mariners team, but the starting rotation is the biggest weakness. -
Could be the case. Martin and Marte have had a breakout start to the season, and could be due for a big regression.DerekJohnson said:
That's a very thoughtful breakdown, but I would say that in time Cishek and the leadoff spot will prove to be the biggest weaknesses.ThomasFremont said:DiPoto for putting together a decent roster.
Other than Seager, Cruz and Cano, the entire lineup was remade. Smith and Guti were around last year too, and Marte was developing, but basically 3 opening day starters are all that returned from last season. The 1B, DH, and outfield platoons are also more thoughtfully deployed to maximize R vs L match ups. Instead of a few good hitters surrounded by dreck, the entire lineup is producing at a reasonable level. And they actually play defense.
The rotation is mostly the same, but Miley and Karns have outperformed expectations and their predecessors as back end starters. Despite blowing a few saves already, Cishek is better than Rodney, and the bullpen overall is one of the best in the league (after losing some of the top guys from a year before).
It's weird to say this about a Mariners team, but the starting rotation is the biggest weakness.
I think Cishek will be fine. -
Aoki will probably need to be replaced, and they could use another back end starter for when someone inevitably gets hurt.
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Dipoto replacing Jack Z is probably the biggest reason, but Cano is right at the top. I haven't watched a pitch all season, but I know that if Cano was hitting .250 with 1 HR like he was last year, this team would be .500 at best. The Mariners can't afford for him to suck.
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Hi.RoadDawg55 said:Dipoto replacing Jack Z is probably the biggest reason, but Cano is right at the top. I haven't watched a pitch all season, but I know that if Cano was hitting .250 with 1 HR like he was last year, this team would be .500 at best. The Mariners can't afford for him to suck.
I already credited this improvement to the right person. -
I don't think he throws hard enough and he's always trying to nibble on the outside. I don't see alpha male when he's on the mound.ThomasFremont said:
Could be the case. Martin and Marte have had a breakout start to the season, and could be due for a big regression.DerekJohnson said:
That's a very thoughtful breakdown, but I would say that in time Cishek and the leadoff spot will prove to be the biggest weaknesses.ThomasFremont said:DiPoto for putting together a decent roster.
Other than Seager, Cruz and Cano, the entire lineup was remade. Smith and Guti were around last year too, and Marte was developing, but basically 3 opening day starters are all that returned from last season. The 1B, DH, and outfield platoons are also more thoughtfully deployed to maximize R vs L match ups. Instead of a few good hitters surrounded by dreck, the entire lineup is producing at a reasonable level. And they actually play defense.
The rotation is mostly the same, but Miley and Karns have outperformed expectations and their predecessors as back end starters. Despite blowing a few saves already, Cishek is better than Rodney, and the bullpen overall is one of the best in the league (after losing some of the top guys from a year before).
It's weird to say this about a Mariners team, but the starting rotation is the biggest weakness.
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I get that, but Trevor Hoffman didn't throw hard either. As long as guys swing and miss, it doesn't matter what the gun says.DerekJohnson said:
I don't think he throws hard enough and he's always trying to nibble on the outside. I don't see alpha male when he's on the mound.ThomasFremont said:
Could be the case. Martin and Marte have had a breakout start to the season, and could be due for a big regression.DerekJohnson said:
That's a very thoughtful breakdown, but I would say that in time Cishek and the leadoff spot will prove to be the biggest weaknesses.ThomasFremont said:DiPoto for putting together a decent roster.
Other than Seager, Cruz and Cano, the entire lineup was remade. Smith and Guti were around last year too, and Marte was developing, but basically 3 opening day starters are all that returned from last season. The 1B, DH, and outfield platoons are also more thoughtfully deployed to maximize R vs L match ups. Instead of a few good hitters surrounded by dreck, the entire lineup is producing at a reasonable level. And they actually play defense.
The rotation is mostly the same, but Miley and Karns have outperformed expectations and their predecessors as back end starters. Despite blowing a few saves already, Cishek is better than Rodney, and the bullpen overall is one of the best in the league (after losing some of the top guys from a year before).
It's weird to say this about a Mariners team, but the starting rotation is the biggest weakness.
I think Cishek will be fine.
Cishek's side arm delivery is tough on opponents, especially righties. He doesn't throw hard, but he gets a lot of movement, and you can tell batters are uneasy in the box facing him.
A few blown saves suck, but every closer blows a few games. It's how they respond that counts. Obviously I'd prefer a guy that threw 100 and scared the shit out of opponents with his breaking ball, but Cishek is doing fine. I agree on the nibbling, but that can be corrected with proper coaching.
