OFFICIAL So fucking GoT thread (spoilers inside)
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No way it was a coincidence. Well put.
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Is it weird that I would bang meera in this episode?
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Sark > Ty POTDSwaye said:
I do worry that RR dies before completing this. And then all we have are notes and the idiots at HBOs version. To be fair, they are doing a much better job with this season than that bullshit last year.Doogles said:
If you can't see time travel plot lines fuck up every good story with promise, I can't help you. I wouldn't mind a story that followed from the first breach of time/space, but when a key character gets a clue from an event that hasn't happened yet and it affects the main narrative it's bothersome and cheap.ThomasFremont said:
Ah fantasy, an even lower threshold for reality.Doogles said:
Technically it's Fantasy, Dragons and whatnot.ThomasFremont said:
You know this is fiction, right?Doogles said:
I get that's the narrative, but it's still sci-fi bullshit. He's everywhere and nowhere and his dead father can hear him whisper in the wind before he was a gleam in Catlyn's eye... get the fuck out with that bullshit.PurpleReign said:It's not time travel you nerds. Time isn't linear it is a circle and shit. So Bran didn't travel into the past because Bran exists everywhere at once.
There is no past, present, or future, only Brandon Stark of Winterfell.
But it could be sci-fi:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8kwZ_7M3o0
HODOR = HOLD THE DOOR felt like some season 5 LOST bullshit. What do the numbers mean? Oh it was all cheap coincidence. Cool. Next...
I still love the books/show, but the potential to fuck up this epic story is trending very high between HBO + R.R's inevitable heart attack. -
I knew you liked the FrogeatersPitchfork51 said:Is it weird that I would bang meera in this episode?
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This is the only explanation that makes sense.PurpleReign said:It's not time travel you nerds. Time isn't linear it is a circle and shit. So Bran didn't travel into the past because Bran exists everywhere at once.
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There must always be a Stark in Winterfell.Doogles said:
Then the faceless men would suffer from an extreme case of negligence. Why put an unproven rookie against a huge conflict of interest scenario with the highest stakes imaginable? If that job needed to get done, Jagen would be there slicing Bran in half.ThomasFremont said:
What if Arya gets Jaqen H'ghar's old mission to kill Bloodraven (except now it's Bran) in order to stop the WWs from getting over the wall?Swaye said:So these wards that the Children put on their little tree hut before Bran the useless fucked up....I am thinking those are the same wards they talk about in the books on why the dude who rides the big dead elk (can't recall his name and never seen him on the show) can't pass the Wall. Anyway, I am betting the Wall has magic (why the fuck else have the White Walkers been just hanging out north of it for years) wards on it as well, and if Bran escapes and makes it south of the Wall, he will cancel the wards on it as well, allowing the Walkers south to rape everything like a Saturday night in Autzens parking lot.
Sweet. Way to fuck the entire world away Bran you useless tit.
That would be a great dramatic twist though. No way Aria stays true to the faceless men in that scenario. She's one of my favorite characters. As a Stark fanboy, I know this series is not going to end well for me.
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Rickon locked in a dungeon in Winterfell doesn't count lol
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What about his flayed corpse?Gladstone said:Rickon locked in a dungeon in Winterfell doesn't count lol
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With all the different characters leaving the wall, I'm guessing that some of the Feast For Crows plots start here:
- Pod and She-hulk wandering around and eventually getting caught up with Lady Stoneheart
-Davos ending up imprisoned in White Harbor(?) or whatever the place was
-Jaime in the riverlands. I predict that Circe will find out about Sansa trying to take back Winterfell and will send Jaime to go after the Blackfish
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Really? I actually think that D&D have decided to completely scrap all three of those story lines. Jaime has been wasting time in KL's when he could have been in the Riverlands for the last two seasons, but I think now with the Faith Militant conflict beginning to boil over he'll finally play a role again. Not to mention if the Blackfish and the rest of the Tully bannermen are in fact heading north, there won't be anything actually happening in the Riverlands.bananasnblondes said:With all the different characters leaving the wall, I'm guessing that some of the Feast For Crows plots start here:
- Pod and She-hulk wandering around and eventually getting caught up with Lady Stoneheart
-Davos ending up imprisoned in White Harbor(?) or whatever the place was
-Jaime in the riverlands. I predict that Circe will find out about Sansa trying to take back Winterfell and will send Jaime to go after the Blackfish
I'm not sure what Davos's significance will be going forward (maybe Jon's hand?), but I'm guessing White Harbor is going to be one of the first stops for Jon's entire company, and they'll add the Manderlys into their alliance with a quick visit in one of the next few episodes. Unfortunately I don't think we'll have any Frey pie kind of moment, but I'll get a raging hard-on if I end up being wrong on that. With Rickon now captive at Winterfell, we of course won't get any Davos trip to Skagos, which was something I was really looking forward to in the books.
As for LSH, I'm not sure if she'll ever be revealed in the show. Hell, we know she's around for all of AFFC and ADWD, yet she does close to nothing during the entire span of those books, so I'm not convinced she even has a significant role in the book story. Further, we've already had Jon revived by the Red God, having another major character from the same family getting the same revival would be cheap and redundant for show watchers. -
I'm still skeptical about the Blackfish, seems like it might be a Littlefinger ploy of some sort... IT'S A TRAP!
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I can't take that kind of heartbreak again. But you're probably right.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:I'm still skeptical about the Blackfish, seems like it might be a Littlefinger ploy of some sort... IT'S A TRAP!
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The entire show is a Littlefinger ploy.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:I'm still skeptical about the Blackfish, seems like it might be a Littlefinger ploy of some sort... IT'S A TRAP!
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Interesting fan theory about Bran getting into the mad kings head and showing him the white walkers thus why he kept screaming "burn them all" until Jaime stabbed him in the back.
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If Littlefinger is telling the truth, not only does the Vale need to have attacked the Boltons OR be in cahoots with them, but they have also gotten past The Twins (the Freys.) Still Sansa sent Brienne out to Riverrun, at least she should have told her to check whether the Vale army actually is at Moat Cailin. Because if they are and they are on the Starks' side it means they have already attacked the Boltons - hence involved themselves in this battle. And surely word of this will get to Jon soon, it's a big fucking deal because the Vale has thus far remained outside the war, so Sansa lying to him was for nothing and will get exposed soon enough - which only means that in addition to Sansa not trusting Jon... Jon, Davos etc won't be trusting Sansa. Great.
If LF lied, well, then the Tully army (assuming he didn't lie about them either) which is already crippled from the war needs to get past the Freys at the Twins and the Boltons at Moat Cailin to even get to Winterfell to aid Sansa. The chances of this seem slim at best.
Not looking good for the Starks.
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It's funny, when you first meet the Starks on the show and in the books, you get the sense they are the most honorable and purposeful house in the realm. Then they precede to get shit on completely for the entire run in both stories. It would be funny if motherfuckers would stop killing the direwolves!Gladstone said:If Littlefinger is telling the truth, not only does the Vale need to have attacked the Boltons OR be in cahoots with them, but they have also gotten past The Twins (the Freys.) Still Sansa sent Brienne out to Riverrun, at least she should have told her to check whether the Vale army actually is at Moat Cailin. Because if they are and they are on the Starks' side it means they have already attacked the Boltons - hence involved themselves in this battle. And surely word of this will get to Jon soon, it's a big fucking deal because the Vale has thus far remained outside the war, so Sansa lying to him was for nothing and will get exposed soon enough - which only means that in addition to Sansa not trusting Jon... Jon, Davos etc won't be trusting Sansa. Great.
If LF lied, well, then the Tully army (assuming he didn't lie about them either) which is already crippled from the war needs to get past the Freys at the Twins and the Boltons at Moat Cailin to even get to Winterfell to aid Sansa. The chances of this seem slim at best.
Not looking good for the Starks.
Water is wet.
But seriously, no way that what is left of House Stark doesn't get a bone somewhere. You can't almost all be murdered and fucked over for years and not get some table scrap at the end.
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Your injun credentials are at risk. Table scraps for sacred dogs. Death and ruin only fitting end for white devils.Swaye said:
It's funny, when you first meet the Starks on the show and in the books, you get the sense they are the most honorable and purposeful house in the realm. Then they precede to get shit on completely for the entire run in both stories. It would be funny if motherfuckers would stop killing the direwolves!Gladstone said:If Littlefinger is telling the truth, not only does the Vale need to have attacked the Boltons OR be in cahoots with them, but they have also gotten past The Twins (the Freys.) Still Sansa sent Brienne out to Riverrun, at least she should have told her to check whether the Vale army actually is at Moat Cailin. Because if they are and they are on the Starks' side it means they have already attacked the Boltons - hence involved themselves in this battle. And surely word of this will get to Jon soon, it's a big fucking deal because the Vale has thus far remained outside the war, so Sansa lying to him was for nothing and will get exposed soon enough - which only means that in addition to Sansa not trusting Jon... Jon, Davos etc won't be trusting Sansa. Great.
If LF lied, well, then the Tully army (assuming he didn't lie about them either) which is already crippled from the war needs to get past the Freys at the Twins and the Boltons at Moat Cailin to even get to Winterfell to aid Sansa. The chances of this seem slim at best.
Not looking good for the Starks.
Water is wet.
But seriously, no way that what is left of House Stark doesn't get a bone somewhere. You can't almost all be murdered and fucked over for years and not get some table scrap at the end.
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Tell that to the Reynes of Castamere.Swaye said:
It's funny, when you first meet the Starks on the show and in the books, you get the sense they are the most honorable and purposeful house in the realm. Then they precede to get shit on completely for the entire run in both stories. It would be funny if motherfuckers would stop killing the direwolves!Gladstone said:If Littlefinger is telling the truth, not only does the Vale need to have attacked the Boltons OR be in cahoots with them, but they have also gotten past The Twins (the Freys.) Still Sansa sent Brienne out to Riverrun, at least she should have told her to check whether the Vale army actually is at Moat Cailin. Because if they are and they are on the Starks' side it means they have already attacked the Boltons - hence involved themselves in this battle. And surely word of this will get to Jon soon, it's a big fucking deal because the Vale has thus far remained outside the war, so Sansa lying to him was for nothing and will get exposed soon enough - which only means that in addition to Sansa not trusting Jon... Jon, Davos etc won't be trusting Sansa. Great.
If LF lied, well, then the Tully army (assuming he didn't lie about them either) which is already crippled from the war needs to get past the Freys at the Twins and the Boltons at Moat Cailin to even get to Winterfell to aid Sansa. The chances of this seem slim at best.
Not looking good for the Starks.
Water is wet.
But seriously, no way that what is left of House Stark doesn't get a bone somewhere. You can't almost all be murdered and fucked over for years and not get some table scrap at the end.
Jon Snow. Winter is coming. I sound gay. -
Shit man, even Injuns got casinos after 400 years of misery. The Starks deserve something...but more ass poundin first.Southerndawg said:
Your injun credentials are at risk. Table scraps for sacred dogs. Death and ruin only fitting end for white devils.Swaye said:
It's funny, when you first meet the Starks on the show and in the books, you get the sense they are the most honorable and purposeful house in the realm. Then they precede to get shit on completely for the entire run in both stories. It would be funny if motherfuckers would stop killing the direwolves!Gladstone said:If Littlefinger is telling the truth, not only does the Vale need to have attacked the Boltons OR be in cahoots with them, but they have also gotten past The Twins (the Freys.) Still Sansa sent Brienne out to Riverrun, at least she should have told her to check whether the Vale army actually is at Moat Cailin. Because if they are and they are on the Starks' side it means they have already attacked the Boltons - hence involved themselves in this battle. And surely word of this will get to Jon soon, it's a big fucking deal because the Vale has thus far remained outside the war, so Sansa lying to him was for nothing and will get exposed soon enough - which only means that in addition to Sansa not trusting Jon... Jon, Davos etc won't be trusting Sansa. Great.
If LF lied, well, then the Tully army (assuming he didn't lie about them either) which is already crippled from the war needs to get past the Freys at the Twins and the Boltons at Moat Cailin to even get to Winterfell to aid Sansa. The chances of this seem slim at best.
Not looking good for the Starks.
Water is wet.
But seriously, no way that what is left of House Stark doesn't get a bone somewhere. You can't almost all be murdered and fucked over for years and not get some table scrap at the end.
Jon Snow. Winter is coming. I sound gay. -
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Time is a barrel roll.
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I laffedGladstone said:
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Re-watched the last episode. Doesn't Arya getting pissed off watching the play depicting Ned's death (inaccurately at that) prove that she is still Arya Stark, and not "no one"?
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All I recall after reading this page of the thread is Sansa getting butt stuff.
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Fuck the producers for not showing that in all its glory.PurpleReign said:All I recall after reading this page of the thread is Sansa getting butt stuff.
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TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Fuck the producers for not showing that in all its glory.PurpleReign said:All I recall after reading this page of the thread is Sansa getting butt stuff.
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Actually, I just looked it up and she was apparently 18 when they filmed the scene. Yep, that's a missed opportunity.
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It also illustrates how events are perceived by the outside world.Gladstone said:The Braavosi play may be the show's best scene yet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8nl61YTTDs
They think Ned is a bumbling idiot who wanted the Iron Throne, Joffrey is kind, Cercei is caring, etc.
But they also think Tyrion was in KL for the whole thing and even conspired to make it all happen, replacing Littlefinger's role as the betrayer of Ned, and Joffrey's role as the one who had him executed. The only characters they got right are King Robert being a dying drunk and Sansa being a helpless girl.
Pretty cool metaphor for the way history is written by the victors.
