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Anyone Else Think Josh Shirley has a 12 Sack Season in Him?

RoadDawg55
RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,622 Swaye's Wigwam
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He had 8.5 as a redshirt freshman then dropped off to 6.5 last year. He did force 6 fumbles last year, including 5 in the last four games. He gets a lot of flack for his part the anemic pass rush, but it does not help that he has nobody else helping him get pressure on the QB. If he gets a counter move to his speed rush, I think he can be a 10-12 sack guy.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,387 Founders Club
    Its OK to be a one dimensional pass rusher if you have help for the rest of the defense.
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,622 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited March 2013
    RaceBannon said:

    Its OK to be a one dimensional pass rusher if you have help for the rest of the defense.

    Agree. The NFL is full of guys like that.

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  • ACSlaterDawg
    ACSlaterDawg Member Posts: 200
    monroecougdad said:

    Not speedy enough that the QB can find an instant open receiver because of our shitty coverage

    Might want to check the stats from last year. Pass defense was one of the strengths of the team and it's even stronger considering they had no help from the DL. That being said, it will be interesting to see if they can stay strong there given the loss of Trufant.
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  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194
    ACSlaterDawg said:

    monroecougdad said:

    Pass defense was one of the strengths of the team and it's even stronger considering they had no help from the DL. That being said, it will be interesting to see if they can stay strong there given the loss of Trufant.

    Heyward looks like he might be a worthy coach. Nussmeier, Cox, Thomas... could he be #4 in the list of coaches Sark has hired who know shit about football?
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  • polarbill1999
    polarbill1999 Member Posts: 1
    monroecougdad said:

    Not speedy enough that the QB can find an instant open receiver because of our shitty coverage

    Seriously?

    Personally I don't think Shirley can post that many sacks as I don't think he is or ever will be a full time DE for the Husky's. He is too small and way too big of a liability in the run. Crap, Shaq is probably bigger than he is. I could see him posting in the 7-10 range as a situational pass rusher that comes in for the starting LDE on passing downs.

    Joe Mathis or Marcus Farria might be better options at starting RDE the day they step on campus. Hopefully bewteen the upperclassman we can redshirt these guys. Hopefully Jamora can come back healthy and Hudson can progress and actually play DE instead of playing DT or 3-4 DE at 250 pounds.
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  • Passion
    Passion Member Posts: 4,622
    Good topic, RoadDawg55. Although there are a few more empty seats on Josh Shirley bandwagon, my seat is still occupied. I like the guy.

    First of all, he is a physical beast. Although he is only 235, he can squat a house, and he can bull rush our biggest OL (granted, our OLs aren't all that great, but still).

    Shirley also has tremendous closing speed in the backfield. Once he gets free, no QB is going to outrun him. He gets his hands up when he is in pursuit, so that QBs have a hard time throwing over/around him.

    Obviously the problem in 2012 was his propensity to get ridden out of plays. My hope/suspicion is that he, Wilcox, and Tosh are working on this. Shirley is far too talented to NOT figure out his problem. I think he is going to have a real comeback year in 2013. 12 sacks? Not sure about that, but definitely more than 6.5

    Just my prediction.
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  • ACSlaterDawg
    ACSlaterDawg Member Posts: 200
    How good would Shirley be if he played on a line with DeAndre Coleman, Scott Crichton and Danny Shelton. All guys from WA we could have had.

    Shirley also had a huge play in the 2011 Cal game when they were on the goal line. It demonstrated his brute strength. I think it was 2nd or 3rd down but he basically fucked up an OL so bad that it caused the Cal back to lose a yard or two. Otherwise he probably gets in.
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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    ACSlaterDawg said:

    How good would Shirley be if he played on a line with DeAndre Coleman, Scott Crichton and Danny Shelton. All guys from WA we could have had.

    Shirley also had a huge play in the 2011 Cal game when they were on the goal line. It demonstrated his brute strength. I think it was 2nd or 3rd down but he basically fucked up an OL so bad that it caused the Cal back to lose a yard or two. Otherwise he probably gets in.

    Surely he will have 12 sacks.
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  • Passion
    Passion Member Posts: 4,622
    edited March 2013
    ACSlaterDawg said:

    How good would Shirley be if he played on a line with DeAndre Coleman, Scott Crichton and Danny Shelton. All guys from WA we could have had.

    Shirley also had a huge play in the 2011 Cal game when they were on the goal line. It demonstrated his brute strength. I think it was 2nd or 3rd down but he basically fucked up an OL so bad that it caused the Cal back to lose a yard or two. Otherwise he probably gets in.

    I remember that play. Shirley critics said he got caught up in the mess. Hardly. He f'ed up the opposing line so bad that the RB stumbled, and it allowed our defense to catch up. Pretty awesome play.

    Hey! Maybe Sark can post the video clip of that play on his website along with the other "championships" he's obtained at UW. Gawd...I'm starting to sound as bad as some of you.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,387 Founders Club
    Please don't call me Shirley
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