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Bowl Game rewatch thoughts

Gladstone
Gladstone Member Posts: 16,419
http://noonkick.com/2015-heart-of-dallas-bowl-southern-miss-vs-washington/

- Right side of OL looked pretty damn good especially considering where they were from beginning of year
- LBs are absolutely elite. water is wet
- Browning's accuracy is his strongest attribute, but not sure his deep ball will ever be good. Also got very good at feeling pressure and slipping his way out of the pocket
- Southern Miss' WR was a bigtime stud. NFL ready. Not reading too much into our DBs against that.
- Daniels showed more cutting ability in one reception than Lenius showed the entire year. No excuse for this guy not to be at least all p12 this year
- Easily Mickens' best game. Where the hell was that the past 4 years?
- fuck off
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  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    I always kept wondering if they know that you can run screens to the halfback instead of the receiver and have a higher success rate.
  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,419

    All PAC 12 for Daniels?

    yea
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,554 Founders Club
    Gladstone said:

    http://noonkick.com/2015-heart-of-dallas-bowl-southern-miss-vs-washington/

    - Right side of OL looked pretty damn good especially considering where they were from beginning of year
    - LBs are absolutely elite. water is wet
    - Browning's accuracy is his strongest attribute, but not sure his deep ball will ever be good. Also got very good at feeling pressure and slipping his way out of the pocket
    - Southern Miss' WR was a bigtime stud. NFL ready. Not reading too much into our DBs against that.
    - Daniels showed more cutting ability in one reception than Lenius showed the entire year. No excuse for this guy not to be at least all p12 this year
    - Easily Mickens' best game. Where the hell was that the past 4 years?
    - fuck off

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  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,515

    All PAC 12 for Daniels? Does he even have 25 career receptions? He has talent, but he's kind of becoming a doog legend for such little production.

    Daniels has been the Black TE backup the last 2 years, hence, not many catches. He will be the #1 guy this year and has the athleticism/ upside to a strong contender for the Breakout Senior Who Hasn't Done Shit So Far award
  • puppylove_sugarsteel
    puppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133
    Gladstone said:

    http://noonkick.com/2015-heart-of-dallas-bowl-southern-miss-vs-washington/

    - Right side of OL looked pretty damn good especially considering where they were from beginning of year
    - LBs are absolutely elite. water is wet
    - Browning's accuracy is his strongest attribute, but not sure his deep ball will ever be good. Also got very good at feeling pressure and slipping his way out of the pocket
    - Southern Miss' WR was a bigtime stud. NFL ready. Not reading too much into our DBs against that.
    - Daniels showed more cutting ability in one reception than Lenius showed the entire year. No excuse for this guy not to be at least all p12 this year
    - Easily Mickens' best game. Where the hell was that the past 4 years?
    - fuck off

    Consider the competition re Mickens. Mickens has been the same player all 4 years. No better no worse!
  • puppylove_sugarsteel
    puppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133
    PurpleJ said:

    I always kept wondering if they know that you can run screens to the halfback instead of the receiver and have a higher success rate.

    No, it depends on the blocking execution. Id rather have Ross on a well blocked screen than Coleman,Dwash or daniels. WTF J? Who is the halfback you are referring to? Id much rather have a TE screen to Cam Cleeland. But you wouldnt remember.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,839 Founders Club
    The one thing I take away from watching that game again is that despite some progress on offense, there were still some lingering, frustrating pre-snap penalties. And they're happening in a game where you know you don't even have to get cute to overwhelm the opposing defense.
  • TTJ
    TTJ Member Posts: 4,827

    Consider the competition re Mickens. Mickens has been the same player all 4 years. No better no worse!

    No, it depends on the blocking execution. Id rather have Ross on a well blocked screen than Coleman,Dwash or daniels. WTF J? Who is the halfback you are referring to? Id much rather have a TE screen to Cam Cleeland. But you wouldnt remember.

    Meds. Not dialed in.
  • HeretoBeatmyChest
    HeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295
    If you count the 2 PI penalties that Daniels drew in the bowl game then the last 4 games of the season he was producing at a rate of 530 receiving yards per season. He also had the best catch rate of any TE in the conference. If they use him at an increased rate relative to the end of last season then he could reach 600 receiving yards which would probably be good enough for all conference honors. I think he has a better than 50-50 shot of at least being honorable mention. His wasted RS was really a shame.

    I was a fan of Perkins but for a TE his catch rate was poor and he was a bad blocker which is why Daniels was assigned that role and did a very good job developing as a blocker. We will probably see Daniels take Perkins role and Sample take Daniels role. I expect that TE group to be better than the last years. Factor in Dissly and they will run 3 TE sets bc they have 3 guys who can block as opposed to last year when they didnt have a single guy with TE blocking experience coming into the season.

    Regarding the bowl game, their QB was the best QB we faced all year, excluding Adams and his tremendous escapability. Southern Miss QB took hits all game long but was money and threw some darts.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club

    PurpleJ said:

    I always kept wondering if they know that you can run screens to the halfback instead of the receiver and have a higher success rate.

    No, it depends on the blocking execution. Id rather have Ross on a well blocked screen than Coleman,Dwash or daniels. WTF J? Who is the halfback you are referring to? Id much rather have a TE screen to Cam Cleeland. But you wouldnt remember.
    Higher level discussion right here...lol

    A screen's success rate depends a lot on the blocking execution? You don't say? Maybe if you had half a brain you'd realize that bubble/tunnel screens employ receivers to do the bulk of the blocking and screens out of the backfield use linemen. Guess who blocks better?
  • NeGgaPlEaSe
    NeGgaPlEaSe Member Posts: 5,764

    All PAC 12 for Daniels? Does he even have 25 career receptions? He has talent, but he's kind of becoming a doog legend for such little production.

    If Pete is who we think he is, Daniels will have a strong senior season
  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,681 Founders Club

    All PAC 12 for Daniels? Does he even have 25 career receptions? He has talent, but he's kind of becoming a doog legend for such little production.

    If Pete is who we think he is, Daniels will have a strong senior season
    Should have had a strong Jr season
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,515

    All PAC 12 for Daniels? Does he even have 25 career receptions? He has talent, but he's kind of becoming a doog legend for such little production.

    If Pete is who we think he is, Daniels will have a strong senior season
    Should have had a strong Jr season
    As the 2nd/3rd string TE?
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    NEsnake12 said:

    Just watched all the defensive snaps and focused in on the secondary... holy hell Brian Clay fucking sucked. Constantly took bad angles, and when he did he was way too slow to have any hope of making up for it. All the Jimmy Lake coaching in the world wasn't going to make up for his shortfalls. Even if Taylor Rapp underperforms DDY and Pepsi's expectations for him, he'll still be an improvement as a true frosh.

    The skill gap between Gardenhire and Jones was very evident. Jones didn't get thrown at much, and when he did get thrown at his coverage was very tight. Gardenhire left too many open windows, especially against Michael Thomas (their stud WR). Jones was handling him just fine, but he fucked us up when Gardenhire was on him. Both big TDs by him were a result of bad Gardenhire coverage and a terrible angle taken by Clay.

    Budda was an absolute savage filling in the slot corner role for King who was injured. Takes the right angles and his closing speed kills. Sweatpants boner inducing.

    Is this @NEsnake12's first worthwhile poast? I'll let you decide, but it very well may be!
  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,681 Founders Club

    All PAC 12 for Daniels? Does he even have 25 career receptions? He has talent, but he's kind of becoming a doog legend for such little production.

    If Pete is who we think he is, Daniels will have a strong senior season
    Should have had a strong Jr season
    As the 2nd/3rd string TE?
    http://www.snappytv.com/snaps/darrell-daniels-makes-his-first-career-td-reception-about-college-football-oregon-state-at-washington-on-pac-12-washington_5s

    that dude should be on the field more often than 2nd/3rd string
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754

    All PAC 12 for Daniels? Does he even have 25 career receptions? He has talent, but he's kind of becoming a doog legend for such little production.

    If Pete is who we think he is, Daniels will have a strong senior season
    Should have had a strong Jr season
    As the 2nd/3rd string TE?
    http://www.snappytv.com/snaps/darrell-daniels-makes-his-first-career-td-reception-about-college-football-oregon-state-at-washington-on-pac-12-washington_5s

    that dude should be on the field more often than 2nd/3rd string
    There must be something wrong with him that we can't see from on-field performance, because he plays at a high level. He's our best after the catch receiver and he's a dominating blocker.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,169 Founders Club

    All PAC 12 for Daniels? Does he even have 25 career receptions? He has talent, but he's kind of becoming a doog legend for such little production.

    If Pete is who we think he is, Daniels will have a strong senior season
    Should have had a strong Jr season
    As the 2nd/3rd string TE?
    http://www.snappytv.com/snaps/darrell-daniels-makes-his-first-career-td-reception-about-college-football-oregon-state-at-washington-on-pac-12-washington_5s

    that dude should be on the field more often than 2nd/3rd string
    There must be something wrong with him that we can't see from on-field performance, because he plays at a high level. He's our best after the catch receiver and he's a dominating blocker.
    Coaches are infallible. They never keep the better player on the bench for some fucktarded reason that has nothing to do with winning. Probably needs to buy in and suck Petermen's cock or go play for Utah
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102

    NEsnake12 said:

    Just watched all the defensive snaps and focused in on the secondary... holy hell Brian Clay fucking sucked. Constantly took bad angles, and when he did he was way too slow to have any hope of making up for it. All the Jimmy Lake coaching in the world wasn't going to make up for his shortfalls. Even if Taylor Rapp underperforms DDY and Pepsi's expectations for him, he'll still be an improvement as a true frosh.

    The skill gap between Gardenhire and Jones was very evident. Jones didn't get thrown at much, and when he did get thrown at his coverage was very tight. Gardenhire left too many open windows, especially against Michael Thomas (their stud WR). Jones was handling him just fine, but he fucked us up when Gardenhire was on him. Both big TDs by him were a result of bad Gardenhire coverage and a terrible angle taken by Clay.

    Budda was an absolute savage filling in the slot corner role for King who was injured. Takes the right angles and his closing speed kills. Sweatpants boner inducing.

    Is this @NEsnake12's first worthwhile poast? I'll let you decide, but it very well may be!
    You only had that opinion because he stroked your ego and told you how special you were ...
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    I'm hearing the last 3 games of 2015 show the capabilities of the offense going forward
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,169 Founders Club
    The offense sucks when it matters. Thankfully Sark hadn't been fired when we beat USC with a whopping 17 points. Threw up all over ourselves against Oregon. Shut down by Stanford. Disappeared against ASU.

    Same old story until it isn't
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,148
    Tequilla said:

    I'm hearing the last 3 games of 2015 show the capabilities of the offense going forward

    I want to agree, but all three of those defenses were fucking horrible.
  • HeretoBeatmyChest
    HeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295

    All PAC 12 for Daniels? Does he even have 25 career receptions? He has talent, but he's kind of becoming a doog legend for such little production.

    If Pete is who we think he is, Daniels will have a strong senior season
    Should have had a strong Jr season
    As the 2nd/3rd string TE?
    http://www.snappytv.com/snaps/darrell-daniels-makes-his-first-career-td-reception-about-college-football-oregon-state-at-washington-on-pac-12-washington_5s

    that dude should be on the field more often than 2nd/3rd string
    There must be something wrong with him that we can't see from on-field performance, because he plays at a high level. He's our best after the catch receiver and he's a dominating blocker.
    The word was he had the dropsies early in the season and during practice. Also he was the best blocking TE last season so it made sense for him to be a blocker and Perkins a receiver.

    As I said earlier in the thread, now that they can use Sample and Dissly as legit blockers, Daniels is primed to have a much greater role as a receiver. He may become the #2 option after Ross. At the end of last season he got a few more targets as Sample developed some experience.