Welcome to the Hardcore Husky Forums. Folks who are well-known in Cyberland and not that dumb.

The Phony In Chief

«134

Comments

  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113
    Normalizing relations with Cuba will change Cuba faster than ignoring them like we've done for 60 years. The embargo has been completely worthless, there is no way to argue otherwise.

    Flooding Cuba with American investments is going to empower Cuban citizens to make any changes they want.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,566
    edited March 2016

    Normalizing relations with Cuba will change Cuba faster than ignoring them like we've done for 60 years. The embargo has been completely worthless, there is no way to argue otherwise.

    Flooding Cuba with American investments is going to empower Cuban citizens to make any changes they want.

    Or provide more funding for Fidel's regime, but what's the difference?
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,502
    What's to say that flooding Cuba with $$$$$ isn't going to empower the Communist Cuban leadership from staying in power?

    And did you read the article...the jailing of protesters and even of the dissident Cuban-American who had met with the Feds before returning to Cuba?

    Hillary will probably be President and doubt she'd visit Cuba like that unless it was on her terms. Obama is concerned about his legacy but fortunately we'll have a new President (only Republican who has a shot of beating her in the general election is Kasich) who will bring some balls and stipulations to the table.

    Normalizing relations with Cuba will change Cuba faster than ignoring them like we've done for 60 years. The embargo has been completely worthless, there is no way to argue otherwise.

    Flooding Cuba with American investments is going to empower Cuban citizens to make any changes they want.

  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,502
    Bingo.

    But Obama doesn't have much time left to shape his "legacy" so he's in a hurry. If that means giving up the USA's position of power, he's ok with it because it's all about him.
    Tequilla said:

    Normalizing relations with Cuba will change Cuba faster than ignoring them like we've done for 60 years. The embargo has been completely worthless, there is no way to argue otherwise.

    Flooding Cuba with American investments is going to empower Cuban citizens to make any changes they want.

    I don't disagree that it's probably time to work with versus against Cuba to get the needed changes in place for the people.

    But there's one thing to working to improve relations and whatnot and then sitting there and bowing down and giving away your position of power like Obama has done.
  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113

    Normalizing relations with Cuba will change Cuba faster than ignoring them like we've done for 60 years. The embargo has been completely worthless, there is no way to argue otherwise.

    Flooding Cuba with American investments is going to empower Cuban citizens to make any changes they want.

    Or provide more funding for Fidel's regime, but what's the difference?
    What's special about Cuba over Saudi Arabia, Russia, or any of the other shitty countries that we have relationships with?

    China is still generally shitty, but is light years beyond what they were before opening their economy. They hardly even pass as communist at this point.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,666
    HFNY said:

    What's to say that flooding Cuba with $$$$$ isn't going to empower the Communist Cuban leadership from staying in power?

    And did you read the article...the jailing of protesters and even of the dissident Cuban-American who had met with the Feds before returning to Cuba?

    Hillary will probably be President and doubt she'd visit Cuba like that unless it was on her terms. Obama is concerned about his legacy but fortunately we'll have a new President (only Republican who has a shot of beating her in the general election is Kasich) who will bring some balls and stipulations to the table.





    LOL
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,566
    edited March 2016

    Normalizing relations with Cuba will change Cuba faster than ignoring them like we've done for 60 years. The embargo has been completely worthless, there is no way to argue otherwise.

    Flooding Cuba with American investments is going to empower Cuban citizens to make any changes they want.

    Or provide more funding for Fidel's regime, but what's the difference?
    What's special about Cuba over Saudi Arabia, Russia, or any of the other shitty countries that we have relationships with?

    China is still generally shitty, but is light years beyond what they were before opening their economy. They hardly even pass as communist at this point.
    Cuba doesn't have anything we want. Why would we play ball with a tyrant when we benefit nothing in return.

    We tolerate China because they give us cheap stuff and own a good chunk of our economy, we tolerate Saudi Arabia because of oil, and we tolerate Russia, because they have political power. Cuba on the other hand, brings nothing to the table. So why put up with this tyrant dictator and his bullshit?
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,502
    Huh?

    Clinton is going to beat Sanders, enough said on that.

    So in the general election, according to the Real Clear Politics' average of various survey results, Kasich would beat Hildabeast by 5 points. No other Republican in the race is ahead of Hildabeast in the General Election polls.

    HFNY said:

    What's to say that flooding Cuba with $$$$$ isn't going to empower the Communist Cuban leadership from staying in power?

    And did you read the article...the jailing of protesters and even of the dissident Cuban-American who had met with the Feds before returning to Cuba?

    Hillary will probably be President and doubt she'd visit Cuba like that unless it was on her terms. Obama is concerned about his legacy but fortunately we'll have a new President (only Republican who has a shot of beating her in the general election is Kasich) who will bring some balls and stipulations to the table.





    LOL