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Murray and Criss to declare for draft (speculation)

JaWarrenJaHookerJaWarrenJaHooker Member Posts: 1,980
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edited February 2016 in Payton's Place
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    dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    FUCK!!!
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    FreeChavezFreeChavez Member Posts: 3,223
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    Chad fords latest mock draft has Chriss at 25 and Murray at 27. There is no doubt they test the waters. It would be pretty crazy to leave if they don't have a solid first round guarantee, however it wouldn't shock me to see either leave if they can get that confidence.

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    FreeChavezFreeChavez Member Posts: 3,223
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    BTW, I love that anyone says they are confident of anything when it comes to basketball players and the draft. Who the fuck knows what someone will do, or if they will come back if given the right draft position. Kem is a moron for acting as if he has any clue, but this is also the guy who blamed the loss @osu on freshman when 95% fell on Romar and AA.
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    KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,750
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    FreeChavez said:

    Chad fords latest mock draft has Chriss at 25 and Murray at 27. There is no doubt they test the waters. It would be pretty crazy to leave if they don't have a solid first round guarantee, however it wouldn't shock me to see either leave if they can get that confidence.

    That's borderline 2nd rd or even worse FA $$$. I'd stay if I were them.
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    KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,750
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    edited February 2016
    FreeChavez said:

    BTW, I love that anyone says they are confident of anything when it comes to basketball players and the draft. Who the fuck knows what someone will do, or if they will come back if given the right draft position. Kem is a moron for acting as if he has any clue, but this is also the guy who blamed the loss @osu on freshman when 95% fell on Romar and AA.

    Wow Tough crowd. Didn't AA have like 30 pts?
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    FreeChavezFreeChavez Member Posts: 3,223
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    salemcoog said:

    FreeChavez said:

    BTW, I love that anyone says they are confident of anything when it comes to basketball players and the draft. Who the fuck knows what someone will do, or if they will come back if given the right draft position. Kem is a moron for acting as if he has any clue, but this is also the guy who blamed the loss @osu on freshman when 95% fell on Romar and AA.

    Wow Tough crowd. Didn't AA have like 30 pts?

    Ft's, turn over and rotten 3 pt shot all in the last 1:48.

    Winners fucking win when the season is on the line, then there is Romar and his crew. Excuses are like a-holes and most are tired of the playbook. At some point fucking winning actually matters however ugly you pull it off. Oregon state seems happy tonight, yes?
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    TTJTTJ Member Posts: 4,795
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    I recall also hearing that Nate Robinson, Isaiah Thomas, and Tony Wroten were all making huge mistakes leaving early. Idiots.
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    bigccbigcc Member Posts: 893
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    they'd be morons to declare unless gm's are grading them in a lottery slot.

    A year to fix fundamentals (Free throw shooting for murray, stupid fouls by chriss) plus some added weight (murray would be punked trying to drive in the lane in the NBA at this point) could easily move them into that range though.

    That being said if they get graded into lottery slots who the hell could blame them?
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    DugtheDoogDugtheDoog Member Posts: 3,180
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    Kim very well could be right but only because 19%. How can he be "confident" they both return? First of all, Kent knows zero about basketball and thus has ZERO clue where they are likely to get drafted. He also has zero insight as to what either of them would need to be slotted as in order to jump. These mocks right now are slightly helpful when it comes to the obvious can't-miss talent. But they really won't start to take shape until the kids get a chance to work out for scouts/GMs. It's just like marrying a hot chick. You don't have to be particularly good looking, rich and highly desirable. All it takes is 1 to fall in love with you. And especially Chriss is the type of guy whose measurables and freakish athleticism are going to wow some teams. So how the fuck does Griswold know whoever has pick 10 isn't going to fall in love with Chriss (or Murray?)? The answer is, he doesn't. I don't see either being taken lottery this year but it wouldn't be the first time a GM has reached. So for Kim to say anything other than "it's all up in the air at this point" is a downright lie.
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    MelloDawgMelloDawg Member Posts: 6,112
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    DugtheDoog said:

    Kim very well could be right but only because 19%. How can he be "confident" they both return? First of all, Kent knows zero about basketball and thus has ZERO clue where they are likely to get drafted. He also has zero insight as to what either of them would need to be slotted as in order to jump. These mocks right now are slightly helpful when it comes to the obvious can't-miss talent. But they really won't start to take shape until the kids get a chance to work out for scouts/GMs. It's just like marrying a hot chick. You don't have to be particularly good looking, rich and highly desirable. All it takes is 1 to fall in love with you. And especially Chriss is the type of guy whose measurables and freakish athleticism are going to wow some teams. So how the fuck does Griswold know whoever has pick 10 isn't going to fall in love with Chriss (or Murray?)? The answer is, he doesn't. I don't see either being taken lottery this year but it wouldn't be the first time a GM has reached. So for Kim to say anything other than "it's all up in the air at this point" is a downright lie.

    Dont forget, afterwards, that Kim will declare they always knew but didn't want to say anything
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