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I'm worried about Trump tomorrow

allpurpleallgold
allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
I know everyone and their mother has taken turns predicting his demise but this violence at his rally's stuff is troubling. I was cool with all the other stuff. You want to dance with the KKK for a second, fine. You want to talk shit about McCains military record, alright. You want to call people names and say women are on their periods when they disagree with you, great. You want to call Mexicans rapists and build a wall, whatever. But the violence thing is actually bothering me.

I don't care who started what. I think it was Trump but I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit if it was Bernie and I wouldn't even give a shit if it was Hillary. What I give a shit about is his response and I'm starting to doubt that he can handle what he's started. I don't agree with much of what he says but I can see how it would work but he has to have control and it seems like he's losing that grip.

So my concern is that if this is bothering me perhaps it's bothering others. There is obviously a segment of the population that will just vote for him regardless but I think he needs more than them.
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  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    I'm voting for him for the free healthcare.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    I don't know...

    By putting the blame on Trump you kind of excuse the anarchist behavior of these social groups led by Soros and moveon.org. Trump has not handle them as well as he could, but you also can't excuse their actions, as they are equally as responsible.

    You can blame Trump for the violent responses, but many of these responses are provoked by these militant social groups. Just like in sports, the reaction is often times more seen than the original provocation.

    What they don't tell you, is that these groups want Trump's people to react in violence, and they try and do everything they can to make that happen. All for publicity and sham smearing, which is their most important weapon. These groups for years are famous for suppressing first amendment rights when the opposing speech differs from their own beliefs.

    They represent the highest form of hypocrisy. By the way they objectify and label those that differ from them, they are often times more racist and show more bigotry than the groups they try and silence. These groups are extremely dangerous, because they use guilt and "fairness" as a tool to drive an underlying hatred agenda on society.

  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    Lends credence to the theory that he was originally a plant but let himself get carried away, and now can't harness the forces he's unleashed. Like rolling a boulder down a mountainside, easy to start, impossible to stop.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    Trump has as much substance as a bag of potato chips and I feel like the only thing that will save us from him being president is if Sirhan Sirhan's grand kid may be tanned rested and ready.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,113 Founders Club
    He could turn the protest to his advantage more than he has. I agree that I could think of a lot better ways to handle it. I don't think it hurts him though. Those are good enemies to have for his base. Cruz and Rubio trying to jump in helps him too.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560

    He could turn the protest to his advantage more than he has. I agree that I could think of a lot better ways to handle it. I don't think it hurts him though. Those are good enemies to have for his base. Cruz and Rubio trying to jump in helps him too.

    What I do like though, is Trump might be the only guy with the stones to call out these groups for what they really are. I really hope he does that.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    These are George Soros paid Moveon.org'ers so, I guess you must really be pissed at HiLiary for these fascist tactics.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,113 Founders Club

    These are George Soros paid Moveon.org'ers so, I guess you must really be pissed at HiLiary for these fascist tactics.

    He'd be better off saying that than talking about paying the bills of the white guy who hit the black guy. That's not smart politics
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    Edit to add this board's new "format" sucks balls
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    When Trump says that "they" used to treat protestors more harshly, is he referring to the Birmingham PD by any chance? Or was it the Ohio National Guard? Just wanted to clear this up.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,532 Founders Club

    When Trump says that "they" used to treat protestors more harshly, is he referring to the Birmingham PD by any chance? Or was it the Ohio National Guard? Just wanted to clear this up.

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  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    #doogsinparadisestrong

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  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    Nice deflection. Why don't you answer the question.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840

    I don't know...

    By putting the blame on Trump you kind of excuse the anarchist behavior of these social groups led by Soros and moveon.org. Trump has not handle them as well as he could, but you also can't excuse their actions, as they are equally as responsible.

    You can blame Trump for the violent responses, but many of these responses are provoked by these militant social groups. Just like in sports, the reaction is often times more seen than the original provocation.

    What they don't tell you, is that these groups want Trump's people to react in violence, and they try and do everything they can to make that happen. All for publicity and sham smearing, which is their most important weapon. These groups for years are famous for suppressing first amendment rights when the opposing speech differs from their own beliefs.

    They represent the highest form of hypocrisy. By the way they objectify and label those that differ from them, they are often times more racist and show more bigotry than the groups they try and silence. These groups are extremely dangerous, because they use guilt and "fairness" as a tool to drive an underlying hatred agenda on society.

    I'd like to believe this because I'm all for blaming everything on militant liberals, but if this were actually true somebody would have produced some videotape of all these militant provocations by now.

    I think the protesters are probably less innocent than they let on, but I don't think they have to push very hard for some idiot Trump supporter to show his/her true racist colors.

    It's more on Team Trump that not, IMO.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    edited March 2016

    Nice deflection. Why don't you answer the question.

    And I assume you support the peaceful protest in Baltimore? Thought so...
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,126 Standard Supporter
    I don't have a dog in the fight - but if you come into my house and pee on the carpet, I'll probably rub your nose in it.

    WTF did these 'protestors' think would happen at a Trump rally? Christ.


  • Hippopeteamus
    Hippopeteamus Member Posts: 1,958

    I know everyone and their mother has taken turns predicting his demise but this violence at his rally's stuff is troubling. I was cool with all the other stuff. You want to dance with the KKK for a second, fine. You want to talk shit about McCains military record, alright. You want to call people names and say women are on their periods when they disagree with you, great. You want to call Mexicans rapists and build a wall, whatever. But the violence thing is actually bothering me.

    I don't care who started what. I think it was Trump but I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit if it was Bernie and I wouldn't even give a shit if it was Hillary. What I give a shit about is his response and I'm starting to doubt that he can handle what he's started. I don't agree with much of what he says but I can see how it would work but he has to have control and it seems like he's losing that grip.

    So my concern is that if this is bothering me perhaps it's bothering others. There is obviously a segment of the population that will just vote for him regardless but I think he needs more than them.

    I am not so worried that something might happen in this election cycle, but, assuming Trump loses, how will his most ardent supporters act? Trump is speaking for a large segment of the conservative base that feels disenfranchised and believes, at least partially rightly, that their concerns are not being heard.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840

    I know everyone and their mother has taken turns predicting his demise but this violence at his rally's stuff is troubling. I was cool with all the other stuff. You want to dance with the KKK for a second, fine. You want to talk shit about McCains military record, alright. You want to call people names and say women are on their periods when they disagree with you, great. You want to call Mexicans rapists and build a wall, whatever. But the violence thing is actually bothering me.

    I don't care who started what. I think it was Trump but I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit if it was Bernie and I wouldn't even give a shit if it was Hillary. What I give a shit about is his response and I'm starting to doubt that he can handle what he's started. I don't agree with much of what he says but I can see how it would work but he has to have control and it seems like he's losing that grip.

    So my concern is that if this is bothering me perhaps it's bothering others. There is obviously a segment of the population that will just vote for him regardless but I think he needs more than them.

    I am not so worried that something might happen in this election cycle, but, assuming Trump loses, how will his most ardent supporters act? Trump is speaking for a large segment of the conservative base population that feels disenfranchised and believes, at least partially rightly, that their concerns are not being heard.
    His support is almost as strong among democrats as republicans.

    Trump appeals to angry white people of both parties and no party.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,113 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    I know everyone and their mother has taken turns predicting his demise but this violence at his rally's stuff is troubling. I was cool with all the other stuff. You want to dance with the KKK for a second, fine. You want to talk shit about McCains military record, alright. You want to call people names and say women are on their periods when they disagree with you, great. You want to call Mexicans rapists and build a wall, whatever. But the violence thing is actually bothering me.

    I don't care who started what. I think it was Trump but I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit if it was Bernie and I wouldn't even give a shit if it was Hillary. What I give a shit about is his response and I'm starting to doubt that he can handle what he's started. I don't agree with much of what he says but I can see how it would work but he has to have control and it seems like he's losing that grip.

    So my concern is that if this is bothering me perhaps it's bothering others. There is obviously a segment of the population that will just vote for him regardless but I think he needs more than them.

    I am not so worried that something might happen in this election cycle, but, assuming Trump loses, how will his most ardent supporters act? Trump is speaking for a large segment of the conservative base population that feels disenfranchised and believes, at least partially rightly, that their concerns are not being heard.
    His support is almost as strong among democrats as republicans.

    Trump appeals to angry white people of both parties and no party.
    The rabble in the street seems a lot more angry. The angry white voter goes back to Reagan. Lazy take
  • Hippopeteamus
    Hippopeteamus Member Posts: 1,958
    dnc said:

    I know everyone and their mother has taken turns predicting his demise but this violence at his rally's stuff is troubling. I was cool with all the other stuff. You want to dance with the KKK for a second, fine. You want to talk shit about McCains military record, alright. You want to call people names and say women are on their periods when they disagree with you, great. You want to call Mexicans rapists and build a wall, whatever. But the violence thing is actually bothering me.

    I don't care who started what. I think it was Trump but I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit if it was Bernie and I wouldn't even give a shit if it was Hillary. What I give a shit about is his response and I'm starting to doubt that he can handle what he's started. I don't agree with much of what he says but I can see how it would work but he has to have control and it seems like he's losing that grip.

    So my concern is that if this is bothering me perhaps it's bothering others. There is obviously a segment of the population that will just vote for him regardless but I think he needs more than them.

    I am not so worried that something might happen in this election cycle, but, assuming Trump loses, how will his most ardent supporters act? Trump is speaking for a large segment of the conservative base population that feels disenfranchised and believes, at least partially rightly, that their concerns are not being heard.
    His support is almost as strong among democrats as republicans.

    Trump appeals to angry white people of both parties and no party.
    Good point. I was sort of thinking of conservative in the sense of not wanting America to move a way from its cultural roots, but that might not be what the democratic Trump supporters are worried about.
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    Lol this would be like back in 2013 if a Seahawks fan went to the game at San francisco (or vice versa) and sat in the hardcore 49er fan section and started yelling and talking shit. What the fuck do you think is going to happen?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,113 Founders Club
    Sanders preaches the same message as Trump and was against immigration before because of the effect on wages. It's not racism it's populism. Same message different solutions
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560

    Nice deflection. Why don't you answer the question.

    He obviously wasn't talking about that. That was a horrible thing that happened in Kent. He shouldn't use generalities as much. However, your issue is, you have a ton of heart but no intelligence. You assume the worse, with out using any form of analysis.
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320

    I don't have a dog in the fight - but if you come into my house and pee on the carpet, I'll probably rub your nose in it.

    WTF did these 'protestors' think would happen at a Trump rally? Christ.


    What did the Jews think would happen living in Germany? Always trying to be the victim smh.
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320

    Sanders preaches the same message as Trump and was against immigration before because of the effect on wages. It's not racism it's populism. Same message different solutions

    Trump was on the right track with the NAFTA and WTO bashing, but blaming Mexican immigrants who are equally as victimized by those same policies was backwards and lets the true villains (Davos Man, central banks, etc.) off the hook. The anger is definitely legitimate, but in my opinion is misplaced and counter productive.

    By falling into racist cliches and dogwhistle politics Trump is giving DC elites an easy stick to lash back at him with, obscuring the economic argument. Bad political process will undermine a good argument.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club

    Sanders preaches the same message as Trump and was against immigration before because of the effect on wages. It's not racism it's populism. Same message different solutions

    Trump was on the right track with the NAFTA and WTO bashing, but blaming Mexican immigrants who are equally as victimized by those same policies was backwards and lets the true villains (Davos Man, central banks, etc.) off the hook. The anger is definitely legitimate, but in my opinion is misplaced and counter productive.

    By falling into racist cliches and dogwhistle politics Trump is giving DC elites an easy stick to lash back at him with, obscuring the economic argument. Bad political process will undermine a good argument.
    All negative press has never had any effect on him, except make him stronger. I am not betting against the guy until something sticks. He's Teflon.
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    So it would seem.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,126 Standard Supporter

    I don't have a dog in the fight - but if you come into my house and pee on the carpet, I'll probably rub your nose in it.

    WTF did these 'protestors' think would happen at a Trump rally? Christ.


    What did the Jews think would happen living in Germany? Always trying to be the victim smh.
    Thanks, Godwin.

    Fuck.