Millions of ordinary Americans support Donald Trump. Here's why

dnc said:

greenblood said:

dnc said:

GreenRiverGatorz said:

topdawgnc said:

Back when Obama was elected a group of firebrand Republicans saw him as a meal ticket.

They created a thing called the Tea Party. This would fire up the grassroots and make the GOP a power party with grassroots made up of roughnecks who felt colored folk were taking their jobs.

Well ... they took advantage of those folk. Played them for fools, thought they would go away.

Problem is they created a Frankenstein ... and the Frankenstein has found a voice in Donald Trump.

Nobody cares what his policy on XYZ is ... just that he is going to go kick ass.

I'm not sure he can beat Cruz one on one ... but we're about to find out.

I don't agree with your assessment. The Tea Party is still here. They're still by and large Cruz supporters who want an extreme cutback on government and a renewed focus on socially restrictive policies.

Trump's supporters are all over the spectrum politically, but for the most part are not disillusioned Tea Partiers. They're disillusioned everythings. They are the culmination of decades of a GOP (and to a lesser extent, the democrats) that hasn't come through for them; whether it be on issues of immigration, the domestic economy, or foreign policy. So they've now been drawn to the candidate who has boiled down all of that frustration into one single authoritarian message: "We will win, and I will get my way on every policy issue".

Both camps have been let down by the GOP, but for very different reasons. Zakaria sums it up pretty well in this column:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/how-the-gops-dishonesty-led-to-the-rise-of-donald-trump-and-ted-cruz/2016/01/28/d0bfdf8c-c5fb-11e5-a4aa-f25866ba0dc6_story.html

Bingo.

This is why Trump sucks in closed primary states but dominates when they're open. He has just as much support outside of the GOP as he does inside of it.

Which makes him a much bigger threat in a general election, than many people give him credit for.

It might. The hard thing to decipher is just how much of the GOP electorate stays home/votes third party if Trump is the nominee. I don't think anybody really knows. There's a real possibility that a very large chunk just sits it out or votes Romney/whoever.

The best thing for Trump would be Sanders winning the nomination, because the GOP would have to vote for him then. If it's Hillary I think a lot of people stay home.

greenblood said:

dnc said:

greenblood said:

dnc said:

GreenRiverGatorz said:

topdawgnc said:

Back when Obama was elected a group of firebrand Republicans saw him as a meal ticket.

They created a thing called the Tea Party. This would fire up the grassroots and make the GOP a power party with grassroots made up of roughnecks who felt colored folk were taking their jobs.

Well ... they took advantage of those folk. Played them for fools, thought they would go away.

Problem is they created a Frankenstein ... and the Frankenstein has found a voice in Donald Trump.

Nobody cares what his policy on XYZ is ... just that he is going to go kick ass.

I'm not sure he can beat Cruz one on one ... but we're about to find out.

I don't agree with your assessment. The Tea Party is still here. They're still by and large Cruz supporters who want an extreme cutback on government and a renewed focus on socially restrictive policies.

Trump's supporters are all over the spectrum politically, but for the most part are not disillusioned Tea Partiers. They're disillusioned everythings. They are the culmination of decades of a GOP (and to a lesser extent, the democrats) that hasn't come through for them; whether it be on issues of immigration, the domestic economy, or foreign policy. So they've now been drawn to the candidate who has boiled down all of that frustration into one single authoritarian message: "We will win, and I will get my way on every policy issue".

Both camps have been let down by the GOP, but for very different reasons. Zakaria sums it up pretty well in this column:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/how-the-gops-dishonesty-led-to-the-rise-of-donald-trump-and-ted-cruz/2016/01/28/d0bfdf8c-c5fb-11e5-a4aa-f25866ba0dc6_story.html

Bingo.

This is why Trump sucks in closed primary states but dominates when they're open. He has just as much support outside of the GOP as he does inside of it.

Which makes him a much bigger threat in a general election, than many people give him credit for.

It might. The hard thing to decipher is just how much of the GOP electorate stays home/votes third party if Trump is the nominee. I don't think anybody really knows. There's a real possibility that a very large chunk just sits it out or votes Romney/whoever.

The best thing for Trump would be Sanders winning the nomination, because the GOP would have to vote for him then. If it's Hillary I think a lot of people stay home.

You might be right, but I'm also wondering if he'll pull in even more support from first time disenfranchised voters once he wins the nomination. It's the great unknown, which easily makes this the most fascinating election cycle in our country's history. This election is going to be talked about for generations.

topdawgnc said:

GreenRiverGatorz said:

topdawgnc said:

Back when Obama was elected a group of firebrand Republicans saw him as a meal ticket.

They created a thing called the Tea Party. This would fire up the grassroots and make the GOP a power party with grassroots made up of roughnecks who felt colored folk were taking their jobs.

Well ... they took advantage of those folk. Played them for fools, thought they would go away.

Problem is they created a Frankenstein ... and the Frankenstein has found a voice in Donald Trump.

Nobody cares what his policy on XYZ is ... just that he is going to go kick ass.

I'm not sure he can beat Cruz one on one ... but we're about to find out.

I don't agree with your assessment. The Tea Party is still here. They're still by and large Cruz supporters who want an extreme cutback on government and a renewed focus on socially restrictive policies.

Trump's supporters are all over the spectrum politically, but for the most part are not disillusioned Tea Partiers. They're disillusioned everythings. They are the culmination of decades of a GOP (and to a lesser extent, the democrats) that hasn't come through for them; whether it be on issues of immigration, the domestic economy, or foreign policy. So they've now been drawn to the candidate who has boiled down all of that frustration into one single authoritarian message: "We will win, and I will get my way on every policy issue".

Both camps have been let down by the GOP, but for very different reasons. Zakaria sums it up pretty well in this column:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/how-the-gops-dishonesty-led-to-the-rise-of-donald-trump-and-ted-cruz/2016/01/28/d0bfdf8c-c5fb-11e5-a4aa-f25866ba0dc6_story.html

Excellent article.

I stand corrected.

Bottom line, voters are fucking pissed off.

Swaye said:

PurpleThrobber said:

topdawgnc said:

GreenRiverGatorz said:

topdawgnc said:

Back when Obama was elected a group of firebrand Republicans saw him as a meal ticket.

They created a thing called the Tea Party. This would fire up the grassroots and make the GOP a power party with grassroots made up of roughnecks who felt colored folk were taking their jobs.

Well ... they took advantage of those folk. Played them for fools, thought they would go away.

Problem is they created a Frankenstein ... and the Frankenstein has found a voice in Donald Trump.

Nobody cares what his policy on XYZ is ... just that he is going to go kick ass.

I'm not sure he can beat Cruz one on one ... but we're about to find out.

I don't agree with your assessment. The Tea Party is still here. They're still by and large Cruz supporters who want an extreme cutback on government and a renewed focus on socially restrictive policies.

Trump's supporters are all over the spectrum politically, but for the most part are not disillusioned Tea Partiers. They're disillusioned everythings. They are the culmination of decades of a GOP (and to a lesser extent, the democrats) that hasn't come through for them; whether it be on issues of immigration, the domestic economy, or foreign policy. So they've now been drawn to the candidate who has boiled down all of that frustration into one single authoritarian message: "We will win, and I will get my way on every policy issue".

Both camps have been let down by the GOP, but for very different reasons. Zakaria sums it up pretty well in this column:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/how-the-gops-dishonesty-led-to-the-rise-of-donald-trump-and-ted-cruz/2016/01/28/d0bfdf8c-c5fb-11e5-a4aa-f25866ba0dc6_story.html

Excellent article.

I stand corrected.

Bottom line, voters are fucking pissed off.

True dat. And Trump is marketing pissed off better than any of the other candidates.

Rubio is a whiner, not even sure Cruz is an American, Hilary is fucking Hilary and Bernie is Larry David with a free college education program.

Trump is "'Merica Fuck YEAH!" on steroids. He will roll in November.

Not saying I agree with him on much of anything so don't twist. But unless something radical happens between now and November, get ready for the hottest first lady ever.

And if he tabs Kacich as the VP, it's not even going to be close.

Not so fast my friend.