Danny O'NEIL and Dave Wyman on Romar
Wyman: I support Romar because he's such a good guy.
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I don't have anything against Romar but how about some standards?
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Seattle media is the fucking worst
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PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Seattle is the fucking worst
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Chuck Powell is the only one in Seattle questioning Romar. He's been saying all week that there's no excuse for not making the tournament with this king of talent. I was actually enjoying listening to him the other day. At commercial, I switched to 710 and literally right as I switched, I heard:
"Lorenzo Romar deserves to be the head coach at UW as long as he wants. I don't care what his record is".
-Danny O'Neil -
Can I help out the #fireromar crew with a little tidbit. Stop using "keep local talent home" argument as to why romar should be fired. It gives idiots like O'neil a platform to argue an asinine response.
Romar has done a very good job of keeping the majority of kids home which is about all you can ask for when it comes to a coach. Nobody keeps all talent within it's boarders as some kids just want to leave.
Here are a few of the gems that are coming out of O'neill's twatter responses.
A response to the small school zags making the dance so many years in a row - "zags ftball teams sucks". Wow, just wow
OSU and oregon have recently made hires that have been successful early on - "and now you're point to osu as a model for uw to emulate?" - Yes danny, yes. It's ironic you can't see that when OSU gets it more than UW it's incredibly sad and pathetic.
To the multitude of posts about how people like danny claim UW can't find a better option than romar so why fire him? "Name the last UW coach to be better than romar?" or "didn't LR take UW to 6 of 8 tournies? Were you disappointed then?"
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Danny states unequivocally that if UW hires a new coach who does really well, he will automatically leave for a better job. But with Romar, we have someone who wants to be a lifer, so stick with that.
I'm absolutely shocked that Danny would make these concrete assumptions like that based on nothing more than pulling stuff out of his ass. He is usually a rationale thinker. I'm not sure what's going on here.
I barely watch UW basketball, they lost me as a fan a few years ago, so I don't care that much one way or another and have nothing against Romar. But again, the lack of standards and the beaten wife syndrome from fans and media leave me perplexed. -
I don't understand why people can't separate that Romar is a really good guy and not a very good coach. Just because he is a good guy doesn't mean he needs to be our coach.
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I completely agree LoRo is a great guy. Can't we find him a job in the athletic dept as a fundraising guy/ Associate AD? He'd be great at that, but I can't figure out how even his staunchest supporters can't see that he is just not getting it done as our head coach.
That's not a personal attack at all,, I wish it wasn't the case, but after five failed years I can't see how this isn't painfully obvious to even the biggest doogs. The problems that existed 5 years ago are still front and center today. -
Romar has 3rd highest win % in UW history in Pac play. I doubt UW can/will make a better hire than Romar. If UW fires Romar, it's more likely that UW has a string of 3-4 shitty coaches until they find someone decent.
I think UW will make the tourney next year and possibly go deep. Even if they make it in somehow this year, they'll simply just get knocked out in the first round. -
Please god tell me you're going with the doogerman playbook and not at all serious?priapism said:Romar has 3rd highest win % in UW history in Pac play. I doubt UW can/will make a better hire than Romar. If UW fires Romar, it's more likely that UW has a string of 3-4 shitty coaches until they find someone decent.
I think UW will make the tourney next year and possibly go deep. Even if they make it in somehow this year, they'll simply just get knocked out in the first round. -
Before I was purged from Softy's page, my early comments were all about Romar. Were I still on the page, I don't think I'd even be commenting since their devout commitment to Romar has made me not THINK or CARE about the program.
Cohen will come out at the end of the year, regardless of the outcome, and say how much promise the team showed, how young they were, the recruits, and that UW is lucky to have Romar.
Unless the program is losing the AD money, they won't dump him since he has the occasional banner year and they market the crap out of the team enough to get stupid people interested -
MelloDawg said:
Before I was purged from Softy's page, my early comments were all about Romar. Were I still on the page, I don't think I'd even be commenting since their devout commitment to Romar has made me not THINK or CARE about the program.
Cohen will come out at the end of the year, regardless of the outcome, and say how much promise the team showed, how young they were, the recruits, and that UW is lucky to have Romar.
Unless the program is losing the AD money, they won't dump him since he has the occasional banner year and theymarket the crap out of the team enough to get stupid people interestedreach racial diversity of coaches by keeping our black coach -
Chuck isn't bad. He's way better than Jerry and fucking Elise, or Softy four or five years ago for that matter. I'm glad someone has the guts to call out Romar.bananasnblondes said:Chuck Powell is the only one in Seattle questioning Romar. He's been saying all week that there's no excuse for not making the tournament with this king of talent. I was actually enjoying listening to him the other day. At commercial, I switched to 710 and literally right as I switched, I heard:
"Lorenzo Romar deserves to be the head coach at UW as long as he wants. I don't care what his record is".
-Danny O'Neil
Doog Fain constantly points to the 11th place prediction...fucking apologist. -
Washington is the big program north of L.A. and west of Big 10 cuntry. Fuck Oregon. They're going down the drain and Phil will die anyway.
Spare me the "Who can you get who is better?" bullshit. It's a major school. No, it's not Kansas, Kentucky, UNC, Syracuse etc., but there's no reason it can't be a Florida, Texas, or Ohio State. Those schools are good in both sports. Maybe if a great AD was hired or something.... -
You mean like all the doogs here saying Petersen is amazing because he won more than the 4 games Vegas projected???Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Chuck isn't bad. He's way better than Jerry and fucking Elise, or Softy four or five years ago for that matter. I'm glad someone has the guts to call out Romar.bananasnblondes said:Chuck Powell is the only one in Seattle questioning Romar. He's been saying all week that there's no excuse for not making the tournament with this king of talent. I was actually enjoying listening to him the other day. At commercial, I switched to 710 and literally right as I switched, I heard:
"Lorenzo Romar deserves to be the head coach at UW as long as he wants. I don't care what his record is".
-Danny O'Neil
Doog Fain constantly points to the 11th place prediction...fucking apologist. -
I'm planning on a TLDR post about it when I'm sober.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:Washington is the big program north of L.A. and west of Big 10 cuntry. Fuck Oregon. They're going down the drain and Phil will die anyway.
Spare me the "Who can you get who is better?" bullshit. It's a major school. No, it's not Kansas, Kentucky, UNC, Syracuse etc., but there's no reason it can't be a Florida, Texas, or Ohio State. Those schools are good in both sports. Maybe if a great AD was hired or something....
But my least favorite argument is UW has never been traditionally good in basketball. Who gives a fuck? All the money and support and talent rich backyard are there to succeed at very high level.
It's like UW would feel bad if they won because that means others would lose and they will feel bad. So we accept just good enough and shake hands smiling after another loss.
"Good game, good game, good game, way to post up, good game, nice handle, good game, good game, good job Jabari, good game, good game, good luck in the tourney coach heck of a squad you got there"
Fucking losers! -
Baylor has always sucked at football. If they ever get a coach who succeeds, he's just going to leave for a bigger program.Doogles said:
I'm planning on a TLDR post about it when I'm sober.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:Washington is the big program north of L.A. and west of Big 10 cuntry. Fuck Oregon. They're going down the drain and Phil will die anyway.
Spare me the "Who can you get who is better?" bullshit. It's a major school. No, it's not Kansas, Kentucky, UNC, Syracuse etc., but there's no reason it can't be a Florida, Texas, or Ohio State. Those schools are good in both sports. Maybe if a great AD was hired or something....
But my least favorite argument is UW has never been traditionally good in basketball. Who gives a fuck? All the money and support and talent rich backyard are there to succeed at very high level.
It's like UW would feel bad if they won because that means others would lose and they will feel bad. So we accept just good enough and shake hands smiling after another loss.
"Good game, good game, good game, way to post up, good game, nice handle, good game, good game, good job Jabari, good game, good game, good luck in the tourney coach heck of a squad you got there"
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Ironic considering Danny was the only person in the local media to speak out against Sark in 2013.DerekJohnson said:Whether they make tourney or not makes no difference to Danny in his support of Romar.
Wyman: I support Romar because he's such a good guy.
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I don't have anything against Romar but how about some standards?
Wyman? Guy should be doing cialis ads. He's awful and knows nothing beyond his own football career. -
The thing that pisses me off the most w/ the pro Romar crows is the "you won't find anyone better and it will be just a stepping stone for them if they start to win argument"
First you can find someone better. Second if they do leave for a better gig, then that means THEY ARE WINNING AND GOING TO THE TOURNAMENT WHICH IS A GOOD. Finally, if the expectation for UW basketball is two sweet 16 appearances every 14 years, then tear down AA arena tomorrow, turn it into more UW medical buildings and drop the sport. That "ceiling" is a waste of time for everyone involved including the fans. -
I don't think anyone other than Puppy has said he has been amazing.ThomasFremont said:
You mean like all the doogs here saying Petersen is amazing because he won more than the 4 games Vegas projected???Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Chuck isn't bad. He's way better than Jerry and fucking Elise, or Softy four or five years ago for that matter. I'm glad someone has the guts to call out Romar.bananasnblondes said:Chuck Powell is the only one in Seattle questioning Romar. He's been saying all week that there's no excuse for not making the tournament with this king of talent. I was actually enjoying listening to him the other day. At commercial, I switched to 710 and literally right as I switched, I heard:
"Lorenzo Romar deserves to be the head coach at UW as long as he wants. I don't care what his record is".
-Danny O'Neil
Doog Fain constantly points to the 11th place prediction...fucking apologist.
He's two years in. I'm willing to see what happens in the next two years. If it's more Spleen of Dallas and Cactus Bowls and a 14-12 record, by all means, he needs to be fired.
Romar has had almost 14. That's a large body of work unless we're using the Rich Brooks scale.
Romar has done some great things. I appreciate what he did in the first four or five years and all UW fans should. He has also squandered some of the talent. It's a what have you done for me lately business, and he hasn't made a tournament in five years. -
Only at UW can an argument be made that someone should keep their job because "he's a nice guy." If it were any other school saying this I'd be laughing maniacally at how stupid it sounded. Any argument to defend Romar is so far removed from any reasonable, logical frame of reference it is borderline unconscionable.
"Oh but UW sucked before Romar got there"
1. A precedent of mediocrity is no reason to keep a coach who sustains said mediocrity around. This is stupid.
2. Let's not forget that Romar's tenure has coincided with Seattle's rise as ONE OF THE BEST H.S. TALENT POOLS IN THE NATION. Fuck o' dear. Pitino with the talent UW had the last 13+ years would have multiple final fours. Imagine Lute. Or even Sean Miller.
I don't even have the heart to address the other pro-RomarFS arguments. I can feel my IQ dropping even thinking about it.
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Are you suggesting Romar's had more talent than Sean Miller? Totally disagree.Gladstone said:Only at UW can an argument be made that someone should keep their job because "he's a nice guy." If it were any other school saying this I'd be laughing maniacally at how stupid it sounded. Any argument to defend Romar is so far removed from any reasonable, logical frame of reference it is borderline unconscionable.
"Oh but UW sucked before Romar got there"
1. A precedent of mediocrity is no reason to keep a coach who sustains said mediocrity around. This is stupid.
2. Let's not forget that Romar's tenure has coincided with Seattle's rise as ONE OF THE BEST H.S. TALENT POOLS IN THE NATION. Fuck o' dear. Pitino with the talent UW had the last 13+ years would have multiple final fours. Imagine Lute. Or even Sean Miller.
I don't even have the heart to address the other pro-RomarFS arguments. I can feel my IQ dropping even thinking about it.
And the rise of the HS talent pool happened years before Romar, that was the great shame of the Bender era (and even before). We(!) lost HS blue chipper after HS blue chipper to out of state schools. Romar's done some nice things to keep some of them home, but he's missed on a lot of guys too.
Here's some of the in state guys we missed on in the 90s, either by failure of talent identification or talent procurement:
Mark Hendrickson
Kevin Burleson
Doug Christie
KJ Roberts
Quin Snyder
Jamal Crawford
Jason Terry
Donny Marshall
O'mma Givens
Luke Ridnour
Mike Dickerson
I'm sure there's plenty of others I'm forgetting.
The point is there was a brief significant rise in high profile in state recruits at the beginning of Romar's tenure say 03-06 (Brooks, Stewart Twins, Marvin Williams, the ridiculous 05 class with Brockman, Marcus and Terrence Williams, Webster, Downs Syndrome, etc, and then Hawes the next year), but other than that four year crest in state talent Romar era in state talent hasn't been any better than the 10 or 15 years before Romar.
This is not to say hasn't been a failure, so don't twist. Just saying Washington state has been consistently producing talent since the late 80's at least. -
^ missed on in mid to late 80s and 90's, not just 90s
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I don't understand why some of you keep writing these long ass winded poasts about how shitty of a coach Romar is. There is nothing left to discuss.
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CuntWaffle said:
I don't understand why some of you keep writing these long ass winded poasts about our offseason natty. There is nothing left to discuss.
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cheaper than therapyCuntWaffle said:I don't understand why some of you keep writing these long ass winded poasts about how shitty of a coach Romar is. There is nothing left to discuss.
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That's why I post here.FreeChavez said:
cheaper than therapyCuntWaffle said:I don't understand why some of you keep writing these long ass winded poasts about how shitty of a coach Romar is. There is nothing left to discuss.
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I never blame the kids for going toGladstone said:Only at UW can an argument be made that someone should keep their job because "he's a nice guy." If it were any other school saying this I'd be laughing maniacally at how stupid it sounded. Any argument to defend Romar is so far removed from any reasonable, logical frame of reference it is borderline unconscionable.
"Oh but UW sucked before Romar got there"
1. A precedent of mediocrity is no reason to keep a coach who sustains said mediocrity around. This is stupid.
2. Let's not forget that Romar's tenure has coincided with Seattle's rise as ONE OF THE BEST H.S. TALENT POOLS IN THE NATION. Fuck o' dear. Pitino with the talent UW had the last 13+ years would have multiple final fours. Imagine Lute. Or even Sean Miller.
I don't even have the heart to address the other pro-RomarFS arguments. I can feel my IQ dropping even thinking about it.KentuckyArizonaStanfordGonzagathe NBA. -
Fuck you, you Blair Rasmussen hating son of a bitch.dnc said:
Are you suggesting Romar's had more talent than Sean Miller? Totally disagree.Gladstone said:Only at UW can an argument be made that someone should keep their job because "he's a nice guy." If it were any other school saying this I'd be laughing maniacally at how stupid it sounded. Any argument to defend Romar is so far removed from any reasonable, logical frame of reference it is borderline unconscionable.
"Oh but UW sucked before Romar got there"
1. A precedent of mediocrity is no reason to keep a coach who sustains said mediocrity around. This is stupid.
2. Let's not forget that Romar's tenure has coincided with Seattle's rise as ONE OF THE BEST H.S. TALENT POOLS IN THE NATION. Fuck o' dear. Pitino with the talent UW had the last 13+ years would have multiple final fours. Imagine Lute. Or even Sean Miller.
I don't even have the heart to address the other pro-RomarFS arguments. I can feel my IQ dropping even thinking about it.
And the rise of the HS talent pool happened years before Romar, that was the great shame of the Bender era (and even before). We(!) lost HS blue chipper after HS blue chipper to out of state schools. Romar's done some nice things to keep some of them home, but he's missed on a lot of guys too.
Here's some of the in state guys we missed on in the 90s, either by failure of talent identification or talent procurement:
Mark Hendrickson
Kevin Burleson
Doug Christie
KJ Roberts
Quin Snyder
Jamal Crawford
Jason Terry
Donny Marshall
O'mma Givens
Luke Ridnour
Mike Dickerson
I'm sure there's plenty of others I'm forgetting.
The point is there was a brief significant rise in high profile in state recruits at the beginning of Romar's tenure say 03-06 (Brooks, Stewart Twins, Marvin Williams, the ridiculous 05 class with Brockman, Marcus and Terrence Williams, Webster, Downs Syndrome, etc, and then Hawes the next year), but other than that four year crest in state talent Romar era in state talent hasn't been any better than the 10 or 15 years before Romar.
This is not to say hasn't been a failure, so don't twist. Just saying Washington state has been consistently producing talent since the late 80's at least.
