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Bernie and Hillary deadlocked in Nevada

allpurpleallgold
allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
Trails by 7 points nationally.

And for those of you not paying attention, he out paced his polling in the first two states by 5%.

http://nypost.com/2016/02/13/bernie-sanders-and-hillary-deadlocked-in-nevada-poll/
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  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,267
    Elections don't matter.

    Superdelegates will make Hilary the winner.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    HuskyJW said:

    Elections don't matter.

    Superdelegates will make Hilary the winner.

    Meh, that's what she thought in 2008 too.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,598 Standard Supporter

    Bernmentum!

    No, I am not going to create another button
    TIA
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320

    Bernmentum!

    No, I am not going to create another button
    TIA
    Booo this man!
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member Posts: 8,145

    Trails by 7 points nationally.

    And for those of you not paying attention, he out paced his polling in the first two states by 5%.

    http://nypost.com/2016/02/13/bernie-sanders-and-hillary-deadlocked-in-nevada-poll/

    Go bernie go. It must suck knowing the RAT party has already coronated a queen.
  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,680 Founders Club
    In 2008 just like now she must feel like she's taking crazy pills because she doesn't understand what's wrong with everyone
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member Posts: 8,145

    In 2008 just like now she must feel like she's taking crazy pills because she doesn't understand what's wrong with everyone

    At least she's been a prominent figure within her party. This old freak show Bernie is a complete deadbeat fraud. He's never had a real job and has succeeded at nothing.

    "He explained his family couldn’t imagine his “success,” because “my brother and I and Mom and Dad grew up in a three-and-a-half-room rent-controlled apartment in Brooklyn, and we never had a whole lot of money.”

    It wasn’t as bad as he says. His family managed to send him to the University of Chicago. Despite a prestigious degree, however, Sanders failed to earn a living, even as an adult. It took him 40 years to collect his first steady paycheck — and it was a government check.

    “I never had any money my entire life,” Sanders told Vermont public TV in 1985, after settling into his first real job as mayor of Burlington.

    Sanders spent most of his life as an angry radical and agitator who never accomplished much of anything. And yet now he thinks he deserves the power to run your life and your finances — “We will raise taxes;” he confirmed Monday, “yes, we will.”

    One of his first jobs was registering people for food stamps, and it was all downhill from there.

    Sanders took his first bride to live in a maple sugar shack with a dirt floor, and she soon left him. Penniless, he went on unemployment. Then he had a child out of wedlock. Desperate, he tried carpentry but could barely sink a nail. “He was a shi**y carpenter,” a friend told Politico Magazine. “His carpentry was not going to support him, and didn’t.”

    Then he tried his hand freelancing for leftist rags, writing about “masturbation and rape” and other crudities for $50 a story. He drove around in a rusted-out, Bondo-covered VW bug with no working windshield wipers. Friends said he was “always poor” and his “electricity was turned off a lot.” They described him as a slob who kept a messy apartment — and this is what his friends had to say about him.

    The only thing he was good at was talking … non-stop … about socialism and how the rich were ripping everybody off. “The whole quality of life in America is based on greed,” the bitter layabout said. “I believe in the redistribution of wealth in this nation.”

    So he tried politics, starting his own socialist party. Four times he ran for Vermont public office, and four times he lost — badly. He never attracted more than single-digit support — even in the People’s Republic of Vermont. In his 1971 bid for U.S. Senate, the local press said the 30-year-old “Sanders describes himself as a carpenter who has worked with ‘disturbed children.’ ” In other words, a real winner.

    He finally wormed his way into the Senate in 2006, where he still ranks as one of the poorest members of Congress. Save for a municipal pension, Sanders lists no assets in his name. All the assets provided in his financial disclosure form are his second wife’s. He does, however, have as much as $65,000 in credit-card debt."
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    edited February 2016
    It's better for Clinton if she takes the next 8 months off minus the occasional debate. It's amazing that she hasn't realized that the more she talks the more people don't like her. Is it just a coincidence that everywhere she goes, her approval rating drops soon after?

    Bernie's an idiot, but at least he believes half the crap coming out of his mouth. He's a lunatic, but I'll give him credit, that he's an honest one. There's no questioning where he stands, even though it's borderline retard thinking. That's why I'd support Bernie over Hillary. Both sides know Bernie's a looney toon, and none of his policies will ever pass. Hillary on the other hand, will push through anything for the highest bidder, as long as the funds can be laundered through her fraudulent foundation. But no worries...I hear everybody's doing it. Right, Honda?
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,726 Founders Club
    I'm not a politics guy and am pretty apathetic to the whole process, but dear god don't let Hilary win. She is easily the most hatable American politician i've seen in my lifetime. I don't care if we have a woman president, just not her.

    She is evil personified.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    Doogles said:

    I'm not a politics guy and am pretty apathetic to the whole process, but dear god don't let Hilary win. She is easily the most hatable American politician i've seen in my lifetime. I don't care if we have a woman president, just not her.

    She is evil personified.

    She'd win if she would just go into hiding for 8 months, but alas...Hillary gonna Hillary...soon to be a Doog legend.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    In 2008 just like now she must feel like she's taking crazy pills because she doesn't understand what's wrong with everyone

    At least she's been a prominent figure within her party. This old freak show Bernie is a complete deadbeat fraud. He's never had a real job and has succeeded at nothing.

    "He explained his family couldn’t imagine his “success,” because “my brother and I and Mom and Dad grew up in a three-and-a-half-room rent-controlled apartment in Brooklyn, and we never had a whole lot of money.”

    It wasn’t as bad as he says. His family managed to send him to the University of Chicago. Despite a prestigious degree, however, Sanders failed to earn a living, even as an adult. It took him 40 years to collect his first steady paycheck — and it was a government check.

    “I never had any money my entire life,” Sanders told Vermont public TV in 1985, after settling into his first real job as mayor of Burlington.

    Sanders spent most of his life as an angry radical and agitator who never accomplished much of anything. And yet now he thinks he deserves the power to run your life and your finances — “We will raise taxes;” he confirmed Monday, “yes, we will.”

    One of his first jobs was registering people for food stamps, and it was all downhill from there.

    Sanders took his first bride to live in a maple sugar shack with a dirt floor, and she soon left him. Penniless, he went on unemployment. Then he had a child out of wedlock. Desperate, he tried carpentry but could barely sink a nail. “He was a shi**y carpenter,” a friend told Politico Magazine. “His carpentry was not going to support him, and didn’t.”

    Then he tried his hand freelancing for leftist rags, writing about “masturbation and rape” and other crudities for $50 a story. He drove around in a rusted-out, Bondo-covered VW bug with no working windshield wipers. Friends said he was “always poor” and his “electricity was turned off a lot.” They described him as a slob who kept a messy apartment — and this is what his friends had to say about him.

    The only thing he was good at was talking … non-stop … about socialism and how the rich were ripping everybody off. “The whole quality of life in America is based on greed,” the bitter layabout said. “I believe in the redistribution of wealth in this nation.”

    So he tried politics, starting his own socialist party. Four times he ran for Vermont public office, and four times he lost — badly. He never attracted more than single-digit support — even in the People’s Republic of Vermont. In his 1971 bid for U.S. Senate, the local press said the 30-year-old “Sanders describes himself as a carpenter who has worked with ‘disturbed children.’ ” In other words, a real winner.

    He finally wormed his way into the Senate in 2006, where he still ranks as one of the poorest members of Congress. Save for a municipal pension, Sanders lists no assets in his name. All the assets provided in his financial disclosure form are his second wife’s. He does, however, have as much as $65,000 in credit-card debt."
    disagree
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381

    In 2008 just like now she must feel like she's taking crazy pills because she doesn't understand what's wrong with everyone

    Angalau yeye imekuwa mashuhuri ndani ya chama chake. Hii umri wa show kituko Bernie ni kamili deadbeat udanganyifu. Yeye kamwe alikuwa na kazi halisi na imefanikiwa katika chochote.

    "Alieleza familia yake hakuweza kufikiria yake" mafanikio, "kwa sababu" Mimi na Mama na baba ndugu yangu na kukulia katika miaka mitatu na nusu chumba kodi-kudhibitiwa ghorofa katika Brooklyn, na sisi kamwe alikuwa mzima fedha nyingi. "

    Ilikuwa si mbaya kama anasema. Familia yake imeweza kumpeleka Chuo Kikuu cha Chicago. Licha ya shahada ya kifahari, hata hivyo, Sanders alishindwa kuweza kuishi, hata kama mtu mzima Ni akamchukua miaka 40 kukusanya kwanza yake. steady malipo - na ilikuwa kuangalia serikali.

    "Mimi kamwe alikuwa na fedha yoyote maisha yangu yote," Sanders aliiambia Vermont umma TV mwaka 1985, baada ya kutulia katika kazi yake ya kwanza halisi kama Meya wa Burlington.

    . Sanders alitumia zaidi ya maisha yake kama hasira kali na fitna ambao kamwe yametimia mengi ya kitu chochote Na hata sasa anadhani yeye anastahili nguvu ya kuendesha maisha yako na fedha yako - "Sisi kuongeza kodi;" alithibitisha Jumatatu, "ndiyo, sisi. "

    Moja ya kazi yake ya kwanza ilikuwa kusajili watu kwa misaada ya chakula, na ilikuwa wote kuteremka kutoka huko.

    Sanders alichukua bibi yake ya kwanza kuishi katika maple sukari kibanda na sakafu ya udongo, na yeye hivi karibuni kushoto kwake. Penniless, aliendelea ukosefu wa ajira. Kisha alikuwa mtoto nje ya ndoa. Desperate, alijaribu useremala lakini shida sana waliweza kuzama msumari . "alikuwa shi ** y seremala," rafiki aliiambia Politico Magazine. "useremala yake ilikuwa si kwenda kwa msaada naye, na hakufanya hivyo."

    Kisha alijaribu mkono wake freelancing kwa mbovu mrengo wa kushoto, kuandika juu ya "Punyeto na ubakaji" na crudities wengine kwa $ 50 hadithi. Yeye alimfukuza kuzunguka katika vimeota-nje, Bondo-kufunikwa VW mdudu na hakuna windshield kazi wipers. Friends alisema alikuwa " . daima maskini "na yake" umeme mara akageuka mbali mengi "Wao alielezea yeye kama slob ambao naendelea ghorofa messy - na hii ni nini rafiki zake alikuwa na kusema juu yake.

    Kitu pekee alikuwa mzuri katika alipokuwa akizungumza ... yasiyo ya kuacha ... kuhusu Ujamaa na jinsi matajiri walikuwa ripping kila mtu mbali. "ubora mzima wa maisha katika Amerika ni msingi uchoyo," layabout uchungu alisema. "Naamini katika ugawaji utajiri katika taifa hili. "

    . Kwa hiyo akajaribu siasa, kuanzia ujamaa wake mwenyewe chama Mara nne yeye aligombea Vermont ofisi ya umma, na mara nne alipoteza - vibaya Yeye kamwe kuwavutia zaidi ya tarakimu moja msaada - .. Hata katika Jamhuri ya Watu wa Vermont Mwaka 1971 jitihada zake kwa Seneti ya Marekani, vyombo vya habari ndani alisema 30 mwenye umri wa miaka "Sanders anaelezea mwenyewe kama seremala ambaye amefanya kazi na 'watoto kusumbuliwa.'" kwa maneno mengine, mshindi halisi.

    Yeye hatimaye wormed njia yake ndani ya Seneti mwaka 2006, ambapo yeye bado safu kama moja ya wanachama maskini wa Congress. Ila kwa pensheni manispaa, Sanders unaorodhesha hakuna mali kwa jina lake. Mali zote zinazotolewa katika kutoa taarifa fomu yake ya kifedha ni ya pili yake mke. anachokifanya, hata hivyo, kuwa kama kiasi kama $ 65,000 katika mikopo kadi madeni."
    Kutomba mbali

  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    It's better for Clinton if she takes the next 8 months off minus the occasional debate. It's amazing that she hasn't realized that the more she talks the more people don't like her. Is it just a coincidence that everywhere she goes, her approval rating drops soon after?

    Bernie's an idiot, but at least he believes half the crap coming out of his mouth. He's a lunatic, but I'll give him credit, that he's an honest one. There's no questioning where he stands, even though it's borderline retard thinking. That's why I'd support Bernie over Hillary. Both sides know Bernie's a looney toon, and none of his policies will ever pass. Hillary on the other hand, will push through anything for the highest bidder, as long as the funds can be laundered through her fraudulent foundation. But no worries...I hear everybody's doing it. Right, Honda?

    What exactly makes Bernie a lunatic? Is it the universal healthcare that rogue nations like Canada have? Is it the paying for school? Something that we already do K through 12? Maybe it's his tuff stance against banks and Wall Street? You know the people that caused the recession. Yeah what a loon.

    And I have some seriously bad news for you, most of Bernie's nutty positions are actually in agreement with the majority of the country, if you actually look at the polling. If people thought Bernie could do what he's talking about he'd win everything in a landslide. Which speaks to how broken our government is. People are openly admitting that what the people want can't be done. Which leads us to more Bernie lunacy, the fact that we need a political revolution.
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320

    In 2008 just like now she must feel like she's taking crazy pills because she doesn't understand what's wrong with everyone

    At least she's been a prominent figure within her party. This old freak show Bernie is a complete deadbeat fraud. He's never had a real job and has succeeded at nothing.

    "He explained his family couldn’t imagine his “success,” because “my brother and I and Mom and Dad grew up in a three-and-a-half-room rent-controlled apartment in Brooklyn, and we never had a whole lot of money.”

    It wasn’t as bad as he says. His family managed to send him to the University of Chicago. Despite a prestigious degree, however, Sanders failed to earn a living, even as an adult. It took him 40 years to collect his first steady paycheck — and it was a government check.

    “I never had any money my entire life,” Sanders told Vermont public TV in 1985, after settling into his first real job as mayor of Burlington.

    Sanders spent most of his life as an angry radical and agitator who never accomplished much of anything. And yet now he thinks he deserves the power to run your life and your finances — “We will raise taxes;” he confirmed Monday, “yes, we will.”

    One of his first jobs was registering people for food stamps, and it was all downhill from there.

    Sanders took his first bride to live in a maple sugar shack with a dirt floor, and she soon left him. Penniless, he went on unemployment. Then he had a child out of wedlock. Desperate, he tried carpentry but could barely sink a nail. “He was a shi**y carpenter,” a friend told Politico Magazine. “His carpentry was not going to support him, and didn’t.”

    Then he tried his hand freelancing for leftist rags, writing about “masturbation and rape” and other crudities for $50 a story. He drove around in a rusted-out, Bondo-covered VW bug with no working windshield wipers. Friends said he was “always poor” and his “electricity was turned off a lot.” They described him as a slob who kept a messy apartment — and this is what his friends had to say about him.

    The only thing he was good at was talking … non-stop … about socialism and how the rich were ripping everybody off. “The whole quality of life in America is based on greed,” the bitter layabout said. “I believe in the redistribution of wealth in this nation.”

    So he tried politics, starting his own socialist party. Four times he ran for Vermont public office, and four times he lost — badly. He never attracted more than single-digit support — even in the People’s Republic of Vermont. In his 1971 bid for U.S. Senate, the local press said the 30-year-old “Sanders describes himself as a carpenter who has worked with ‘disturbed children.’ ” In other words, a real winner.

    He finally wormed his way into the Senate in 2006, where he still ranks as one of the poorest members of Congress. Save for a municipal pension, Sanders lists no assets in his name. All the assets provided in his financial disclosure form are his second wife’s. He does, however, have as much as $65,000 in credit-card debt."
    Tl, dr.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,745 Founders Club
    Bush lied and people died! is a much bigger issue among the democratic base. Which is why I am mystified that Trump is using it but that's another post.

    Bush didn't lie, that is cover for the numerous democrats who voted for the war like Hilary. Bill said a bunch of times that Iraq had WMDs yadda yadda yadda.

    Anyway, Hilary has had to face Senators that voted against in 08 and this year. That is a big problem in the primaries along with her complete lack of any human characteristics.

    Hilary looked at the evidence and thought it was worth going to war. Sanders didn't. It had nothing to do with lies or being fooled. In fact running on a platform of saying W fooled your stupid ass isn't all that great either.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Bush lied and people died! is a much bigger issue among the democratic base. Which is why I am mystified that Trump is using it but that's another post.

    Bush didn't lie, that is cover for the numerous democrats who voted for the war like Hilary. Bill said a bunch of times that Iraq had WMDs yadda yadda yadda.

    Anyway, Hilary has had to face Senators that voted against in 08 and this year. That is a big problem in the primaries along with her complete lack of any human characteristics.

    Hilary looked at the evidence and thought it was worth going to war. Sanders didn't. It had nothing to do with lies or being fooled. In fact running on a platform of saying W fooled your stupid ass isn't all that great either.

    Actually they didn't vote for war. They voted for the authorization of war if Iraq did in fact have WMDs, among a bunch of other things. Race is wrong again.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Resolution
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,745 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    Bush lied and people died! is a much bigger issue among the democratic base. Which is why I am mystified that Trump is using it but that's another post.

    Bush didn't lie, that is cover for the numerous democrats who voted for the war like Hilary. Bill said a bunch of times that Iraq had WMDs yadda yadda yadda.

    Anyway, Hilary has had to face Senators that voted against in 08 and this year. That is a big problem in the primaries along with her complete lack of any human characteristics.

    Hilary looked at the evidence and thought it was worth going to war. Sanders didn't. It had nothing to do with lies or being fooled. In fact running on a platform of saying W fooled your stupid ass isn't all that great either.

    Actually they didn't vote for war. They voted for the authorization of war if Iraq did in fact have WMDs, among a bunch of other things. Race is wrong again.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Resolution
    Good little lapdog

    Maybe Hilary will bark for you
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    Bush lied and people died! is a much bigger issue among the democratic base. Which is why I am mystified that Trump is using it but that's another post.

    Bush didn't lie, that is cover for the numerous democrats who voted for the war like Hilary. Bill said a bunch of times that Iraq had WMDs yadda yadda yadda.

    Anyway, Hilary has had to face Senators that voted against in 08 and this year. That is a big problem in the primaries along with her complete lack of any human characteristics.

    Hilary looked at the evidence and thought it was worth going to war. Sanders didn't. It had nothing to do with lies or being fooled. In fact running on a platform of saying W fooled your stupid ass isn't all that great either.

    Actually they didn't vote for war. They voted for the authorization of war if Iraq did in fact have WMDs, among a bunch of other things. Race is wrong again.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Resolution
    Good little lapdog

    Maybe Hilary will bark for you
    Learn to think for yourself. Rather than repeat right wing talking points lies.




    Gotta be painful to get called out by a retard with an 8th grade education like me.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,745 Founders Club
    You didn't call anything out other than your lap dog love for Hillary
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    You didn't call anything out other than your lap dog love for Hillary

    The best part is, you don't even get that I called you out for being a right wing drone.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,745 Founders Club
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320

    Bush lied and people died! is a much bigger issue among the democratic base. Which is why I am mystified that Trump is using it but that's another post.

    Bush didn't lie, that is cover for the numerous democrats who voted for the war like Hilary. Bill said a bunch of times that Iraq had WMDs yadda yadda yadda.

    Anyway, Hilary has had to face Senators that voted against in 08 and this year. That is a big problem in the primaries along with her complete lack of any human characteristics.

    Hilary looked at the evidence and thought it was worth going to war. Sanders didn't. It had nothing to do with lies or being fooled. In fact running on a platform of saying W fooled your stupid ass isn't all that great either.

    Hilary took the politically expedient route as is her nature and voted to authorize force, which was a massive miscalculation. Yes, we're? still paying for it, and we will be paying for that fuck up for years to come. If you can't see that the Bushies were raring to go in Iraq, evidence be damned, then I can't help you.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559

    It's better for Clinton if she takes the next 8 months off minus the occasional debate. It's amazing that she hasn't realized that the more she talks the more people don't like her. Is it just a coincidence that everywhere she goes, her approval rating drops soon after?

    Bernie's an idiot, but at least he believes half the crap coming out of his mouth. He's a lunatic, but I'll give him credit, that he's an honest one. There's no questioning where he stands, even though it's borderline retard thinking. That's why I'd support Bernie over Hillary. Both sides know Bernie's a looney toon, and none of his policies will ever pass. Hillary on the other hand, will push through anything for the highest bidder, as long as the funds can be laundered through her fraudulent foundation. But no worries...I hear everybody's doing it. Right, Honda?

    What exactly makes Bernie a lunatic? Is it the universal healthcare that rogue nations like Canada have? Is it the paying for school? Something that we already do K through 12? Maybe it's his tuff stance against banks and Wall Street? You know the people that caused the recession. Yeah what a loon.

    And I have some seriously bad news for you, most of Bernie's nutty positions are actually in agreement with the majority of the country, if you actually look at the polling. If people thought Bernie could do what he's talking about he'd win everything in a landslide. Which speaks to how broken our government is. People are openly admitting that what the people want can't be done. Which leads us to more Bernie lunacy, the fact that we need a political revolution.
    Free college- College can be free for people who work hard and get scholarships. Most of these scholarships are designed for socioeconomic disadvantaged minorities. Even if you have to pay for it, you can get loans. And if you don't fuck around and actually major in something that you can use in the real world, then you'll be alright. But students complaining about their school debt after spending four years majoring in "Shakespeare Romanticism", fuck you. The money would have been better spent lit on fire in a barrel. Also, how well has the free public school system worked recently? Aren't we ranked close to last in developed countries for k-12? And you want to extend that to College? That'll work...

    Universal Healthcare- Does anybody know what the wait time is to see a doctor in Canada? spoiler alert: A long fucking time. The program is cheaper because many people die before they can survive the wait time to have needed operations done. We all know the VA has been incredible serving our sick vets, so lets extend that program out to the general public. Sounds like a "killer" system to get on board with.

    Then I'm supposed to assume that it's a good thing, that I'm going to be paying increased taxes to pay for an overpriced and mismanaged pile of shit.

    Sign me up...
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,745 Founders Club

    Bush lied and people died! is a much bigger issue among the democratic base. Which is why I am mystified that Trump is using it but that's another post.

    Bush didn't lie, that is cover for the numerous democrats who voted for the war like Hilary. Bill said a bunch of times that Iraq had WMDs yadda yadda yadda.

    Anyway, Hilary has had to face Senators that voted against in 08 and this year. That is a big problem in the primaries along with her complete lack of any human characteristics.

    Hilary looked at the evidence and thought it was worth going to war. Sanders didn't. It had nothing to do with lies or being fooled. In fact running on a platform of saying W fooled your stupid ass isn't all that great either.

    Hilary took the politically expedient route as is her nature and voted to authorize force, which was a massive miscalculation. Yes, we're? still paying for it, and we will be paying for that fuck up for years to come. If you can't see that the Bushies were raring to go in Iraq, evidence be damned, then I can't help you.
    That's 2 different issues. I was raring to go too but not for no reason

    She should be held accountable for Syria and Libya. Great job there
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510

    In 2008 just like now she must feel like she's taking crazy pills because she doesn't understand what's wrong with everyone

    At least she's been a prominent figure within her party. This old freak show Bernie is a complete deadbeat fraud. He's never had a real job and has succeeded at nothing.

    "He explained his family couldn’t imagine his “success,” because “my brother and I and Mom and Dad grew up in a three-and-a-half-room rent-controlled apartment in Brooklyn, and we never had a whole lot of money.”

    It wasn’t as bad as he says. His family managed to send him to the University of Chicago. Despite a prestigious degree, however, Sanders failed to earn a living, even as an adult. It took him 40 years to collect his first steady paycheck — and it was a government check.

    “I never had any money my entire life,” Sanders told Vermont public TV in 1985, after settling into his first real job as mayor of Burlington.

    Sanders spent most of his life as an angry radical and agitator who never accomplished much of anything. And yet now he thinks he deserves the power to run your life and your finances — “We will raise taxes;” he confirmed Monday, “yes, we will.”

    One of his first jobs was registering people for food stamps, and it was all downhill from there.

    Sanders took his first bride to live in a maple sugar shack with a dirt floor, and she soon left him. Penniless, he went on unemployment. Then he had a child out of wedlock. Desperate, he tried carpentry but could barely sink a nail. “He was a shi**y carpenter,” a friend told Politico Magazine. “His carpentry was not going to support him, and didn’t.”

    Then he tried his hand freelancing for leftist rags, writing about “masturbation and rape” and other crudities for $50 a story. He drove around in a rusted-out, Bondo-covered VW bug with no working windshield wipers. Friends said he was “always poor” and his “electricity was turned off a lot.” They described him as a slob who kept a messy apartment — and this is what his friends had to say about him.

    The only thing he was good at was talking … non-stop … about socialism and how the rich were ripping everybody off. “The whole quality of life in America is based on greed,” the bitter layabout said. “I believe in the redistribution of wealth in this nation.”

    So he tried politics, starting his own socialist party. Four times he ran for Vermont public office, and four times he lost — badly. He never attracted more than single-digit support — even in the People’s Republic of Vermont. In his 1971 bid for U.S. Senate, the local press said the 30-year-old “Sanders describes himself as a carpenter who has worked with ‘disturbed children.’ ” In other words, a real winner.

    He finally wormed his way into the Senate in 2006, where he still ranks as one of the poorest members of Congress. Save for a municipal pension, Sanders lists no assets in his name. All the assets provided in his financial disclosure form are his second wife’s. He does, however, have as much as $65,000 in credit-card debt."
    I tried posting this into a couple of translators to see if anything comprehensible came out. Haven't found one yet.
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320

    Bush lied and people died! is a much bigger issue among the democratic base. Which is why I am mystified that Trump is using it but that's another post.

    Bush didn't lie, that is cover for the numerous democrats who voted for the war like Hilary. Bill said a bunch of times that Iraq had WMDs yadda yadda yadda.

    Anyway, Hilary has had to face Senators that voted against in 08 and this year. That is a big problem in the primaries along with her complete lack of any human characteristics.

    Hilary looked at the evidence and thought it was worth going to war. Sanders didn't. It had nothing to do with lies or being fooled. In fact running on a platform of saying W fooled your stupid ass isn't all that great either.

    Hilary took the politically expedient route as is her nature and voted to authorize force, which was a massive miscalculation. Yes, we're? still paying for it, and we will be paying for that fuck up for years to come. If you can't see that the Bushies were raring to go in Iraq, evidence be damned, then I can't help you.
    That's 2 different issues. I was raring to go too but not for no reason

    She should be held accountable for Syria and Libya. Great job there
    If we were so interested in democracy promotion perhaps it would've been a good idea to ensure that rebuilding went smoothly, rather than shock therapy intended to hinder all but the largest, most well financed multinationals.

    Like you said, Syria and Libya are two different issues.