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RaceBannon
RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,937 Founders Club
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Don't attack Obama or you'll lose the moderates

Don't attack Hilary or you'll lose the moderates.

Don't run a conservative or you'll lose the moderates.

Don't stand up to Obama on the Supreme Court or you'll lose the moderates.

Might as well not even have a second party then. If the GOP will agree with the democrats on everything and give them their way then the moderates will vote for the GOP? Seriously? Why? They aren't moderates, they are democrats.

How come the fabled moderates aren't shocked at the democrats running a convict and a socialist? That's moderate?

Look, if the country keeps electing democrats and moving left then so be it, but shut the fuck up about how the GOP has to hold their hand to get them there.

Stand up ad fight. At least you'l get respect and by the way Obama has got more GOP congressmen and Senators elected than Mitch McConnell. That's why Obama has to work with the Senate if he wants to get a nominee through. Otherwise fuck off.

Of course we all know the little GOP bitches will cave so they don't lose the moderates when they lose the White House again this fall.
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    That article was about as poorly written as @RaceBannon's articles, with almost as much dribble.
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  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,279
    When you lay down in the middle of the road you get hit by both sides of traffic.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Totally with you on moderates being overrated. By both parties.
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  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839
    If you are a fiscal conservative and a social liberal ... Kasich and Trump are your guys
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  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    Reasons to have a 3rd party....

    Both parties are big government hypocrites. Say they want freedom of choice and dialogue on the issues, but actions say otherwise. I'll take the Republicans any day given a choice, but they aren't serious about fiscal conservatism anymore than the Dems. I just happen to like their bullshit social agenda more than the commie muslim America-hating libtards.
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  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    There are a fair number of "moderates" who are somehow deciding between Sanders and Trump. If you're that policy-illiterate, you might as well sit this one out.
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  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839
    Reality ... We have one party. And a Supreme Court.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,937 Founders Club
    topdawgnc said:

    Reality ... We have one party. And a Supreme Court.

    This. Its a dog and pony show. Wouldn't put it past them to still get Bush Clinton 2 Electric Bugaloo this year
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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    PurpleJ said:

    Reasons to have a 3rd party....

    Both parties are big government hypocrites. Say they want freedom of choice and dialogue on the issues, but actions say otherwise. I'll take the Republicans any day given a choice, but they aren't serious about fiscal conservatism anymore than the Dems. I just happen to like their bullshit social agenda more than the commie muslim America-hating libtards.

    This. Small government conservatism died with Reagans last fully functioning brain cells. Both Bush's were big government idiots masquerading as small government liberty types.
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  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    Swaye said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Reasons to have a 3rd party....

    Both parties are big government hypocrites. Say they want freedom of choice and dialogue on the issues, but actions say otherwise. I'll take the Republicans any day given a choice, but they aren't serious about fiscal conservatism anymore than the Dems. I just happen to like their bullshit social agenda more than the commie muslim America-hating libtards.

    This. Small government conservatism died with Reagans last fully functioning brain cells. Both Bush's were big government idiots masquerading as small government liberty types.
    Reagan's war on drugs was pretty big government. I can't really remember a President that was a REAL conservative.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,937 Founders Club
    PurpleJ said:

    Swaye said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Reasons to have a 3rd party....

    Both parties are big government hypocrites. Say they want freedom of choice and dialogue on the issues, but actions say otherwise. I'll take the Republicans any day given a choice, but they aren't serious about fiscal conservatism anymore than the Dems. I just happen to like their bullshit social agenda more than the commie muslim America-hating libtards.

    This. Small government conservatism died with Reagans last fully functioning brain cells. Both Bush's were big government idiots masquerading as small government liberty types.
    Reagan's war on drugs was pretty big government. I can't really remember a President that was a REAL conservative.
    Or a real liberal. The occupants of the White House change but the war on drugs and the NSA just gain more power and funding
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  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    How about a war on war? Ever think of that?
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,937 Founders Club
    How about a bake sale to fund the NSA?
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  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    PurpleJ said:

    Swaye said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Reasons to have a 3rd party....

    Both parties are big government hypocrites. Say they want freedom of choice and dialogue on the issues, but actions say otherwise. I'll take the Republicans any day given a choice, but they aren't serious about fiscal conservatism anymore than the Dems. I just happen to like their bullshit social agenda more than the commie muslim America-hating libtards.

    This. Small government conservatism died with Reagans last fully functioning brain cells. Both Bush's were big government idiots masquerading as small government liberty types.
    Reagan's war on drugs was pretty big government. I can't really remember a President that was a REAL conservative.
    When every new President gets his first security briefing and realizes the true extent of our government's involvement in keeping us safe, all promises of limited government or cutting back military spending going flying out the window.
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  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    RaceBannon said:

    How about a bake sale to fund the NSA?

    I dream of the days when big government programs have to raise funds like the soccer moms and church groups!!!
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  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    2001400ex said:

    That article was about as poorly written as @RaceBannon's articles, with almost as much dribble.

    I have a pillow. Wanna see how long you can hold your breath?
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  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,630 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    That article was about as poorly written as @RaceBannon's articles, with almost as much dribble.

    drivel*
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    sarktastic said:

    2001400ex said:

    That article was about as poorly written as @RaceBannon's articles, with almost as much dribble.

    I have a pillow. Wanna see how long you can hold your breath?
    Same pillow as was used on Scalia?
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  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    I only smother infants that I am unable to support financially. #democrat
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  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839
    sarktastic said:

    2001400ex said:

    That article was about as poorly written as @RaceBannon's articles, with almost as much dribble.

    I have a pillow. Wanna see how long you can hold your breath?
    Rumor has it that was the question Obama asked Scalia Saturday night.
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  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    If I wasn't so lazy I would rewrite that for Sanders and the democrats. Same radical centrists trying to tell people how to vote, when to cough, etc.
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  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    doogsinparadise said:

    If I wasn't so lazy I would rewrite that for Sanders and the democrats. Same radical centrists trying to tell people how to vote, when to cough, etc.

    And Bernie's plan plays right into those people's hands. So does TRUMP. HTH.
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  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839
    PurpleJ said:

    doogsinparadise said:

    If I wasn't so lazy I would rewrite that for Sanders and the democrats. Same radical centrists trying to tell people how to vote, when to cough, etc.

    And Bernie's plan plays right into those people's hands. So does TRUMP. HTH.
    I just want my free shit.

    Feeeel the BERN!!!
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  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    Rome is BERNing. How about that?
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  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    PurpleJ said:

    doogsinparadise said:

    If I wasn't so lazy I would rewrite that for Sanders and the democrats. Same radical centrists trying to tell people how to vote, when to cough, etc.

    And Bernie's plan plays right into those people's hands. So does TRUMP. HTH.
    Vehemently disagree.
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  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Swaye said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Reasons to have a 3rd party....

    Both parties are big government hypocrites. Say they want freedom of choice and dialogue on the issues, but actions say otherwise. I'll take the Republicans any day given a choice, but they aren't serious about fiscal conservatism anymore than the Dems. I just happen to like their bullshit social agenda more than the commie muslim America-hating libtards.

    This. Small government conservatism died with Reagans last fully functioning brain cells. Both Bush's were big government idiots masquerading as small government liberty types.
    Reagan's war on drugs was pretty big government. I can't really remember a President that was a REAL conservative.
    When every new President gets his first security briefing and realizes the true extent of our government's involvement in keeping us safe, all promises of limited government or cutting back military spending going flying out the window.
    https://youtu.be/Ytv15ono5J0
    I have this feeling man, 'cause you know, it's just a handful of people who run everything, you know … that's true, it's provable. It's not … I'm not a fucking conspiracy nut, it's provable.

    A handful, a very small elite, run and own these corporations, which include the mainstream media. I have this feeling that whoever is elected president, like Clinton was, no matter what you promise on the campaign trail – blah, blah, blah – when you win, you go into this smoke-filled room with the twelve industrialist capitalist scum-fucks who got you in there.

    And you're in this smoky room, and this little film screen comes down … and a big guy with a cigar goes, "Roll the film." And it's a shot of the Kennedy assassination from an angle you've never seen before … that looks suspiciously like it's from the grassy knoll.

    And then the screen goes up and the lights come up, and they go to the new president, "Any questions?"

    "Er, just what my agenda is."

    "First we bomb Baghdad."

    "You got it …"
    - Bill Hicks
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  • whlinder
    whlinder Member Posts: 5,271
    I miss Goldwater dammit
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