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OFFICIAL UW v UTAH GAMETHREAD
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Wow, you were drunk a lot during the TW years if you are comparing the two in any similar light.NeGgaPlEaSe said:
Exactly what I thought of WrotenThomasFremont said:
THIS.RoadDawg55 said:
There are never more than 4 or 5 rookies that this isn't the case.NeGgaPlEaSe said:
If Murray plays this way again, with national audience, im not sure he's lottery or even top 20. I'm not positive his game translates well to the NBA right now without developmental league and major work. Having watched Wroten struggle, Lavine struggle, maybe he stays to improve his draft status or because he likes his teammates. Although Lavine is playing better than Ross who is making 3.5 mil a year, so who know?ThomasFremont said:
Next year we? lose AA, and Murray and Chriss are playing their way into the draft.Passion said:Fuck Romar. Today some d-bag at work was all excited about "next year!"
Jeez we have a soft fan base.
Should be GREAT.
Chriss to me is looking more and more like the best player with the highest ceiling
The NBA is unique. No other sport has a draft full of 1st round guys that range from day 1 superstars to developmental project that never even plays.
Murray could log minutes in the NBA right now. He is not a D-League player and never will be.
One player can use both hands. The other couldn't.
One cares about his game, his team and has no cool factor to him
One can shoot from outside of 3 ft from the basket
One actually plays defense, and well for a freshman(oh and he tries to play defense which is an added bonus)
One actually can pass. TW could make the highlight pass, but he also made about 25 bad passes to get one highlight pass.
Did i mention TW still can't dribble with his right hand?
One can shoot FT's
One takes over games at the end b/c he has a hard nose winning attitude while the other was looking at his homies and wondering what party they were hitting up later in the day.
These two players are so incredibly polar opposite. -
I like Murray's game better than TW's as well, but Murray is not a good shooter at all. 39% from the field and 29% from 3. His shot isn't completely broken like TW's was, but there is nothing impressive about Murray's numbers.FreeChavez said:
Wow, you were drunk a lot during the TW years if you are comparing the two in any similar light.NeGgaPlEaSe said:
Exactly what I thought of WrotenThomasFremont said:
THIS.RoadDawg55 said:
There are never more than 4 or 5 rookies that this isn't the case.NeGgaPlEaSe said:
If Murray plays this way again, with national audience, im not sure he's lottery or even top 20. I'm not positive his game translates well to the NBA right now without developmental league and major work. Having watched Wroten struggle, Lavine struggle, maybe he stays to improve his draft status or because he likes his teammates. Although Lavine is playing better than Ross who is making 3.5 mil a year, so who know?ThomasFremont said:
Next year we? lose AA, and Murray and Chriss are playing their way into the draft.Passion said:Fuck Romar. Today some d-bag at work was all excited about "next year!"
Jeez we have a soft fan base.
Should be GREAT.
Chriss to me is looking more and more like the best player with the highest ceiling
The NBA is unique. No other sport has a draft full of 1st round guys that range from day 1 superstars to developmental project that never even plays.
Murray could log minutes in the NBA right now. He is not a D-League player and never will be.
One player can use both hands. The other couldn't.
One cares about his game, his team and has no cool factor to him
One can shoot from outside of 3 ft from the basket
One actually plays defense, and well for a freshman(oh and he tries to play defense which is an added bonus)
One actually can pass. TW could make the highlight pass, but he also made about 25 bad passes to get one highlight pass.
Did i mention TW still can't dribble with his right hand?
One can shoot FT's
One takes over games at the end b/c he has a hard nose winning attitude while the other was looking at his homies and wondering what party they were hitting up later in the day.
These two players are so incredibly polar opposite.
TW was one of the best players in the conference (it was shitty, but still) his freshman year. We have this dumb discussion every year about TW. He was good. He has had some big games in the NBA.
Murray has a better feel and you can see how he could become really good. TW was pretty fucking good though. -
Wroten was a 5 star talent with a 1 star makeup. Murray's a 4 star talent with a 4 star makeup. I'm pretty sure Wroten would kill Murray in a game of one on one. In a team game I'll take Murray 10 times out of 10.RoadDawg55 said:
I like Murray's game better than TW's as well, but Murray is not a good shooter at all. 39% from the field and 29% from 3. His shot isn't completely broken like TW's was, but there is nothing impressive about Murray's numbers.FreeChavez said:
Wow, you were drunk a lot during the TW years if you are comparing the two in any similar light.NeGgaPlEaSe said:
Exactly what I thought of WrotenThomasFremont said:
THIS.RoadDawg55 said:
There are never more than 4 or 5 rookies that this isn't the case.NeGgaPlEaSe said:
If Murray plays this way again, with national audience, im not sure he's lottery or even top 20. I'm not positive his game translates well to the NBA right now without developmental league and major work. Having watched Wroten struggle, Lavine struggle, maybe he stays to improve his draft status or because he likes his teammates. Although Lavine is playing better than Ross who is making 3.5 mil a year, so who know?ThomasFremont said:
Next year we? lose AA, and Murray and Chriss are playing their way into the draft.Passion said:Fuck Romar. Today some d-bag at work was all excited about "next year!"
Jeez we have a soft fan base.
Should be GREAT.
Chriss to me is looking more and more like the best player with the highest ceiling
The NBA is unique. No other sport has a draft full of 1st round guys that range from day 1 superstars to developmental project that never even plays.
Murray could log minutes in the NBA right now. He is not a D-League player and never will be.
One player can use both hands. The other couldn't.
One cares about his game, his team and has no cool factor to him
One can shoot from outside of 3 ft from the basket
One actually plays defense, and well for a freshman(oh and he tries to play defense which is an added bonus)
One actually can pass. TW could make the highlight pass, but he also made about 25 bad passes to get one highlight pass.
Did i mention TW still can't dribble with his right hand?
One can shoot FT's
One takes over games at the end b/c he has a hard nose winning attitude while the other was looking at his homies and wondering what party they were hitting up later in the day.
These two players are so incredibly polar opposite.
TW was one of the best players in the conference (it was shitty, but still) his freshman year. We have this dumb discussion every year about TW. He was good. He has had some big games in the NBA.
Murray has a better feel and you can see how he could become really good. TW was pretty fucking good though.
You're right about Murray's shooting numbers being very bad, but a) he's 69% from the line which is poor for a guard but significantly better than Wroten as a frosh b) his form is fine and might require a minor mechanical overhaul but not a complete reworking like Wroten's.
Murray's ceiiling might not be as high as Wroten's was but he's much more likely to reach it IMO. He's a hell of a lot easier to root for than Wroten too.
