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Democratic debate thread

2001400ex
2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
Bernie: while taxes will go up $500 on middle class people, health care costs will go down $5,000.

Free money baby!!!

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  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    Bernie is either a great liar or really stupid to be that old and still believe the bullshit he peddles.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Bernie is a terrible speaker. He looks like he's about to die up there.

    Hillary is a master debater but it looks like her face just got out of the paint shop.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    Bernie is a terrible speaker. He looks like he's about to die up there.

    Hillary is a master debater but it looks like her face just got out of the paint shop.

    You get dumber by the day
    Oh dude. You missed the joke.
  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,991
    2001400ex said:

    Bernie: while taxes will go up $500 on middle class people, health care costs will go down $5,000.

    Free money baby!!!

    My healthcare costs last year were $0, so does that mean I get $5000?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    Bernie: while taxes will go up $500 on middle class people, health care costs will go down $5,000.

    Free money baby!!!

    My healthcare costs last year were $0, so does that mean I get $5000?
    Of course. Your employer will give you a raise to compensate you for the lack of premiums they'll have to pay.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,937 Founders Club
    Larry David is kicking ass
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    Bernie's answer on dictators and regime change is well intentioned—he's right that we? made serious mistakes in Libya and Iraq—but it's not credible when you're looking at the humanitarian crisis now unfolding in Syria, Yemen, etc. He needs to be able to answer what he would do about Assad and the Russians bombarding civilian populations in Syria, as well as the Saudi role in bombing the shit out of Yemen.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    It was Hillary's idea to go after bin Laden...LOL.
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    Hilary's nailing him here, which considering that she's been wrong on most of this stuff, is pretty damning of his grasp of foreign policy.
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    When I see Hilary in that giant yellow top, I think "caution".
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    edited February 2016
    Oh, and it was awesome that Bernie brought up the overthrow in Iran in the 50s for big oil. Obviously, he has been reading my material here.
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    Beyond being against regime change, Bernie just doesn't get Syria. He left himself open on that question by pivoting weakly to Crimea and Hillary hit him in the mouth.
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    PurpleJ said:

    Bernie is either a great liar or really stupid to be that old and still believe the bullshit he peddles.

    What, specifically, do you think is bullshit?
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165

    Beyond being against regime change, Bernie just doesn't get Syria. He left himself open on that question by pivoting weakly to Crimea and Hillary hit him in the mouth.

    Bernie has also advocated for Saudi Arabia and Iran forming a coalition against ISIS. The man just does not have a good grasp on what's going on outside of the United States.
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    Now she's going below the belt, and it's not a good look. Dirty tricks and attacks like that are why people don't trust the Clintons.
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510

    Beyond being against regime change, Bernie just doesn't get Syria. He left himself open on that question by pivoting weakly to Crimea and Hillary hit him in the mouth.

    Bernie has also advocated for Saudi Arabia and Iran forming a coalition against ISIS. The man just does not have a good grasp on what's going on outside of the United States.
    You mean the fact that Saudi Arabis has been one of the largest supporters of ISIS?

    He just needs a good foreign affairs advisor.

    He is kicking ass on domestic issues, which is what most Americans care more about.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839
    OZONE said:

    Beyond being against regime change, Bernie just doesn't get Syria. He left himself open on that question by pivoting weakly to Crimea and Hillary hit him in the mouth.

    Bernie has also advocated for Saudi Arabia and Iran forming a coalition against ISIS. The man just does not have a good grasp on what's going on outside of the United States.
    You mean the fact that Saudi Arabis has been one of the largest supporters of ISIS?

    He just needs a good foreign affairs advisor.

    He is kicking ass on domestic issues, which is what most Americans care more about.
    Everyone loves free shit!!!!!!!

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  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    topdawgnc said:

    OZONE said:

    Beyond being against regime change, Bernie just doesn't get Syria. He left himself open on that question by pivoting weakly to Crimea and Hillary hit him in the mouth.

    Bernie has also advocated for Saudi Arabia and Iran forming a coalition against ISIS. The man just does not have a good grasp on what's going on outside of the United States.
    You mean the fact that Saudi Arabis has been one of the largest supporters of ISIS?

    He just needs a good foreign affairs advisor.

    He is kicking ass on domestic issues, which is what most Americans care more about.
    Everyone loves free shit!!!!!!!

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    Free shit? Such as when we bailed out wall street?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,937 Founders Club
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510

    We?

    Those of us that pay taxes anyway. Don't know about your sitch.
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    OZONE said:

    Beyond being against regime change, Bernie just doesn't get Syria. He left himself open on that question by pivoting weakly to Crimea and Hillary hit him in the mouth.

    Bernie has also advocated for Saudi Arabia and Iran forming a coalition against ISIS. The man just does not have a good grasp on what's going on outside of the United States.
    You mean the fact that Saudi Arabis has been one of the largest supporters of ISIS?

    He just needs a good foreign affairs advisor.

    He is kicking ass on domestic issues, which is what most Americans care more about.
    No, I mean the fact that Saudi Arabia and Iran are fundamental enemies in every facet of their society. They might hate each other more than India and Pakistan.
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    edited February 2016

    OZONE said:

    Beyond being against regime change, Bernie just doesn't get Syria. He left himself open on that question by pivoting weakly to Crimea and Hillary hit him in the mouth.

    Bernie has also advocated for Saudi Arabia and Iran forming a coalition against ISIS. The man just does not have a good grasp on what's going on outside of the United States.
    You mean the fact that Saudi Arabis has been one of the largest supporters of ISIS?

    He just needs a good foreign affairs advisor.

    He is kicking ass on domestic issues, which is what most Americans care more about.
    No, I mean the fact that Saudi Arabia and Iran are fundamental enemies in every facet of their society. They might hate each other more than India and Pakistan.
    That will balance out over time... and Iran would kick Saudi Arabia's ass in a war. They are just on hold, because they are both busy selling the west oil. If the Saudis want to avoid being destroyed by Iran, they are going to have to learn how to get along. It isn't the job of the US taxpayers to bail them out every time a bigger neighbor threatens them (as the Bush family bailed them out with regards to Iraq).
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    how many times did they bring up the crock of shit that is "equal pay for equal labor?" I counted at least 5 times. Hard to fix a problem that doesn't actually exist