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Poll: Most Americans Want Redistribution of Wealth

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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    OZONE said:

    socialism sucks. what you get is poor management, impossible coworkers, irresponsible spending, lack of accountability. And how did I learn that? By working at the University of Washington.

    No shit? Which group?

    I spent some time there as well... as a software dev in a central enterprise systems group...

    ...also did stints at Microsoft, T-Mobile, and Amazon.

    To be honest, the UW was no worse than those 3 companies.... which is why I always laugh at the argument that the state wastes money.

    You want to see money waste... spend some time working at Microsoft or Amazon.

    What is ironic is that some view the state as so evil, that they want to hold their budgeting practices to a higher standard than what the private sector practices... giving the private sector a pass because it isn't tax payer money... yet ignoring the fact that their argument that the "private sector does everything better" argument is a pile of horse shit.
    Yes this. Large corporations and governments both waste a ton of money. I had a buddy in the capital budgeting department at Boeing. They worked like 2 months out of the year.

    For the comment that large corporations don't waste taxpayer money. Lol really? They are complaining wanting lower tax rates. Why don't they just cut some fat to become more profitable?
    When two great minds get together, this is the drivel that you get.


    Let me help both of you out. The Government is responsible for providing the highest quality of services possible based on the funding available to their programs. They report to the tax payer, not the other way around as you libs seem to believe.

    Big companies and corporations are responsible to their shareholders and that is it. If the bottom line is good, the BoD and shareholders don't care about expenditures such as R and D and promotion being what some may believe to be excessive.
    Corporations waste taxpayer dollars too.

    HTH
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    KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,750
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    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    OZONE said:

    socialism sucks. what you get is poor management, impossible coworkers, irresponsible spending, lack of accountability. And how did I learn that? By working at the University of Washington.

    No shit? Which group?

    I spent some time there as well... as a software dev in a central enterprise systems group...

    ...also did stints at Microsoft, T-Mobile, and Amazon.

    To be honest, the UW was no worse than those 3 companies.... which is why I always laugh at the argument that the state wastes money.

    You want to see money waste... spend some time working at Microsoft or Amazon.

    What is ironic is that some view the state as so evil, that they want to hold their budgeting practices to a higher standard than what the private sector practices... giving the private sector a pass because it isn't tax payer money... yet ignoring the fact that their argument that the "private sector does everything better" argument is a pile of horse shit.
    Yes this. Large corporations and governments both waste a ton of money. I had a buddy in the capital budgeting department at Boeing. They worked like 2 months out of the year.

    For the comment that large corporations don't waste taxpayer money. Lol really? They are complaining wanting lower tax rates. Why don't they just cut some fat to become more profitable?
    When two great minds get together, this is the drivel that you get.


    Let me help both of you out. The Government is responsible for providing the highest quality of services possible based on the funding available to their programs. They report to the tax payer, not the other way around as you libs seem to believe.

    Big companies and corporations are responsible to their shareholders and that is it. If the bottom line is good, the BoD and shareholders don't care about expenditures such as R and D and promotion being what some may believe to be excessive.
    CorporationsObamas green energy pet companies waste taxpayer dollars too.

    HTH
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    edited February 2016
    salemcoog said:



    CorporationsObamas green energy pet companies conservative corporate welfare waste taxpayer dollars too.

    HTH

    FIFY
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    KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,750
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    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:



    CorporationsObamas green energy pet companies conservative corporate welfare waste taxpayer dollars too.

    HTH

    FIFY
    Except that the corporations aren't, don't pretend to nor were ever started to be in charge of the public welfare. But please do continue to dig deeper into your baseless comparison.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:



    CorporationsObamas green energy pet companies conservative corporate welfare waste taxpayer dollars too.

    HTH

    FIFY
    Except that the corporations aren't, don't pretend to nor were ever started to be in charge of the public welfare. But please do continue to dig deeper into your baseless comparison.
    Holy shit you must live under a rock. Have you never heard of a corporation that received federal funding? Or tax credits to explore for natural resources? You think that money isn't wasted?

    Have you ever heard of corporations receiving money to do work for the government? Boeing and Lockheed Martin are a couple examples.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_100_Contractors_of_the_U.S._federal_government
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    KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,750
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    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:



    CorporationsObamas green energy pet companies conservative corporate welfare waste taxpayer dollars too.

    HTH

    FIFY
    Except that the corporations aren't, don't pretend to nor were ever started to be in charge of the public welfare. But please do continue to dig deeper into your baseless comparison.
    Holy shit you must live under a rock. Have you never heard of a corporation that received federal funding? Or tax credits to explore for natural resources? You think that money isn't wasted?

    Have you ever heard of corporations receiving money to do work for the government? Boeing and Lockheed Martin are a couple examples.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_100_Contractors_of_the_U.S._federal_government
    Yes I 'm aware that the Government sub contracts to private industry for many things. However that contractors responsiblity is to produce the product on time and on budget just like they would do for their other private customers. Not for the public welfare.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:



    CorporationsObamas green energy pet companies conservative corporate welfare waste taxpayer dollars too.

    HTH

    FIFY
    Except that the corporations aren't, don't pretend to nor were ever started to be in charge of the public welfare. But please do continue to dig deeper into your baseless comparison.
    Holy shit you must live under a rock. Have you never heard of a corporation that received federal funding? Or tax credits to explore for natural resources? You think that money isn't wasted?

    Have you ever heard of corporations receiving money to do work for the government? Boeing and Lockheed Martin are a couple examples.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_100_Contractors_of_the_U.S._federal_government
    Yes I 'm aware that the Government sub contracts to private industry for many things. However that contractors responsiblity is to produce the product on time and on budget just like they would do for their other private customers. Not for the public welfare.
    And corporations profit from those contracts and waste a shit ton of money too. Especially since many of those are sole source contacts.

    The point is, the mantra that corporations are more efficient than government is fucktarded. All are fucked up and waste our money.
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    KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,750
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    NO dipshit. For the 4th time, The point is that the Corporations money is their shareholders. The governments money is the taxpayer's. IF a Corporation wants to waste their money, they are not hurting the general public. When the government wastes their money it hurts all of its citizens.

    You can't possibly be this stupid.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    salemcoog said:

    NO dipshit. For the 4th time, The point is that the Corporations money is their shareholders. The governments money is the taxpayer's. IF a Corporation wants to waste their money, they are not hurting the general public. When the government wastes their money it hurts all of its citizens.

    You can't possibly be this stupid.

    Except when it's government money spent by the corporation? Did you pull up the link I posted?
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    KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,750
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    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    NO dipshit. For the 4th time, The point is that the Corporations money is their shareholders. The governments money is the taxpayer's. IF a Corporation wants to waste their money, they are not hurting the general public. When the government wastes their money it hurts all of its citizens.

    You can't possibly be this stupid.

    Except when it's government money spent by the corporation? Did you pull up the link I posted?
    I don't use wikipedia.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    NO dipshit. For the 4th time, The point is that the Corporations money is their shareholders. The governments money is the taxpayer's. IF a Corporation wants to waste their money, they are not hurting the general public. When the government wastes their money it hurts all of its citizens.

    You can't possibly be this stupid.

    Except when it's government money spent by the corporation? Did you pull up the link I posted?
    I don't use wikipedia.
    Clearly as you are uneducated as fuck.
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    KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,750
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    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    NO dipshit. For the 4th time, The point is that the Corporations money is their shareholders. The governments money is the taxpayer's. IF a Corporation wants to waste their money, they are not hurting the general public. When the government wastes their money it hurts all of its citizens.

    You can't possibly be this stupid.

    Except when it's government money spent by the corporation? Did you pull up the link I posted?
    I don't use wikipedia.
    Clearly as you are uneducated as fuck.
    I think we're done here.
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