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Poll: Most Americans Want Redistribution of Wealth

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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    dflea said:

    Most Americans are stupid and lazy so this is no surprise.

    Of course, my capitalist company is full of lazy and stupid motherfuckers, and nobody fires them - they fire the people who call out the stupid and lazy motherfuckers because that's what HR-heavy companies do. There simply is no reason to work hard and produce because it's all about whose ass your nose is planted in, not what you do to pull money in.

    This country is all about coddling dumbfucks and losers. It won't change until the whole shit comes crashing down and dumbfucks and lazy assholes die like they should have years ago.

    Sounds like dfleas company has no metrics to measure an employees performance.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    salemcoog said:

    dflea said:

    Most Americans are stupid and lazy so this is no surprise.

    Of course, my capitalist company is full of lazy and stupid motherfuckers, and nobody fires them - they fire the people who call out the stupid and lazy motherfuckers because that's what HR-heavy companies do. There simply is no reason to work hard and produce because it's all about whose ass your nose is planted in, not what you do to pull money in.

    This country is all about coddling dumbfucks and losers. It won't change until the whole shit comes crashing down and dumbfucks and lazy assholes die like they should have years ago.

    Sounds like dfleas company has no metrics to measure an employees performance.
    Or the metrics suck...

    EWIWBI
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,903 Founders Club
    All metrics suck

    Piss me off and you're fired.

    That's my metric
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    salemcoog said:

    dflea said:

    Most Americans are stupid and lazy so this is no surprise.

    Of course, my capitalist company is full of lazy and stupid motherfuckers, and nobody fires them - they fire the people who call out the stupid and lazy motherfuckers because that's what HR-heavy companies do. There simply is no reason to work hard and produce because it's all about whose ass your nose is planted in, not what you do to pull money in.

    This country is all about coddling dumbfucks and losers. It won't change until the whole shit comes crashing down and dumbfucks and lazy assholes die like they should have years ago.

    Sounds like dfleas company has no metrics to measure an employees performance.
    I introduce you to the reason so many companies suck ass.

    They should beat senior managers with metrics until they either die or admit their metrics are as worthless as half their employees.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    The only metric is the bottom line. Did your work contribute to making the company richer or not? Of course, it's really easy for the workers not to matter with incompetent management.
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    edited February 2016

    socialism sucks. what you get is poor management, impossible coworkers, irresponsible spending, lack of accountability. And how did I learn that? By working at the University of Washington.

    No shit? Which group?

    I spent some time there as well... as a software dev in a central enterprise systems group...

    ...also did stints at Microsoft, T-Mobile, and Amazon.

    To be honest, the UW was no worse than those 3 companies.... which is why I always laugh at the argument that the state wastes money.

    You want to see money waste... spend some time working at Microsoft or Amazon.

    What is ironic is that some view the state as so evil, that they want to hold their budgeting practices to a higher standard than what the private sector practices... giving the private sector a pass because it isn't tax payer money... yet ignoring the fact that their argument that the "private sector does everything better" argument is a pile of horse shit.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    OZONE said:

    socialism sucks. what you get is poor management, impossible coworkers, irresponsible spending, lack of accountability. And how did I learn that? By working at the University of Washington.

    No shit? Which group?

    I spent some time there as well... as a software dev in a central enterprise systems group...

    ...also did stints at Microsoft, T-Mobile, and Amazon.

    To be honest, the UW was no worse than those 3 companies.... which is why I always laugh at the argument that the state wastes money.

    You want to see money waste... spend some time working at Microsoft or Amazon.

    What is ironic is that some view the state as so evil, that they want to hold their budgeting practices to a higher standard than what the private sector practices... giving the private sector a pass because it isn't tax payer money... yet ignoring the fact that their argument that the "private sector does everything better" argument is a pile of horse shit.
    A poorly performing government takes more money from tax payers. A poorly performing company goes *poof*. HTH
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    Way to miss the point about budgets in large organizations.

    BTW, none of those companies are poorly performing.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    OZONE said:

    Way to miss the point about budgets in large organizations.

    BTW, none of those companies are poorly performing.

    Exactly.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,083
    OZONE said:

    socialism sucks. what you get is poor management, impossible coworkers, irresponsible spending, lack of accountability. And how did I learn that? By working at the University of Washington.

    No shit? Which group?

    I spent some time there as well... as a software dev in a central enterprise systems group...

    ...also did stints at Microsoft, T-Mobile, and Amazon.

    To be honest, the UW was no worse than those 3 companies.... which is why I always laugh at the argument that the state wastes money.

    You want to see money waste... spend some time working at Microsoft or Amazon.

    What is ironic is that some view the state as so evil, that they want to hold their budgeting practices to a higher standard than what the private sector practices... giving the private sector a pass because it isn't tax payer money... yet ignoring the fact that their argument that the "private sector does everything better" argument is a pile of horse shit.
    Large corporations and government have much in common. Not the least of which is their mutual worship of 'budgets'.

    Fuck budgets. Fuck year over year budgeting. Fuck making decisions based on what the remaining fucking budget for the year is. Fuck the use it or lose mentality those damned things promote.

    I hate those goddamned things. And I hate the amount of time spent preparing and then budgets when all they really are are wild ass guesses. Government and corporations are run on WAGs.

    Rant off.
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510

    OZONE said:

    Way to miss the point about budgets in large organizations.

    BTW, none of those companies are poorly performing.

    Exactly.
    Exactly.

    Going over budget is just part of the cost of doing business. Whether you are a private company... or a government providing essential services.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    Is this the thread where we get roofies? Axeing for a fren.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    OZONE said:

    socialism sucks. what you get is poor management, impossible coworkers, irresponsible spending, lack of accountability. And how did I learn that? By working at the University of Washington.

    No shit? Which group?

    I spent some time there as well... as a software dev in a central enterprise systems group...

    ...also did stints at Microsoft, T-Mobile, and Amazon.

    To be honest, the UW was no worse than those 3 companies.... which is why I always laugh at the argument that the state wastes money.

    You want to see money waste... spend some time working at Microsoft or Amazon.

    What is ironic is that some view the state as so evil, that they want to hold their budgeting practices to a higher standard than what the private sector practices... giving the private sector a pass because it isn't tax payer money... yet ignoring the fact that their argument that the "private sector does everything better" argument is a pile of horse shit.
    Yes this. Large corporations and governments both waste a ton of money. I had a buddy in the capital budgeting department at Boeing. They worked like 2 months out of the year.

    For the comment that large corporations don't waste taxpayer money. Lol really? They are complaining wanting lower tax rates. Why don't they just cut some fat to become more profitable?
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    PurpleJ said:

    The only metric is the bottom line. Did your work contribute to making the company richer or not? Of course, it's really easy for the workers not to matter with incompetent management.

    All the the head coach?
  • HuskyInAZ
    HuskyInAZ Member Posts: 1,732
    2001400ex said:

    OZONE said:

    socialism sucks. what you get is poor management, impossible coworkers, irresponsible spending, lack of accountability. And how did I learn that? By working at the University of Washington.

    No shit? Which group?

    I spent some time there as well... as a software dev in a central enterprise systems group...

    ...also did stints at Microsoft, T-Mobile, and Amazon.

    To be honest, the UW was no worse than those 3 companies.... which is why I always laugh at the argument that the state wastes money.

    You want to see money waste... spend some time working at Microsoft or Amazon.

    What is ironic is that some view the state as so evil, that they want to hold their budgeting practices to a higher standard than what the private sector practices... giving the private sector a pass because it isn't tax payer money... yet ignoring the fact that their argument that the "private sector does everything better" argument is a pile of horse shit.
    Yes this. Large corporations and governments both waste a ton of money. I had a buddy in the capital budgeting department at Boeing. They worked like 2 months out of the year.

    For the comment that large corporations don't waste taxpayer money. Lol really? They are complaining wanting lower tax rates. Why don't they just cut some fat to become more profitable?
    Because large corporations are wasteful, it's OK for government to be wasteful? Did I get that right?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    HuskyInAZ said:

    2001400ex said:

    OZONE said:

    socialism sucks. what you get is poor management, impossible coworkers, irresponsible spending, lack of accountability. And how did I learn that? By working at the University of Washington.

    No shit? Which group?

    I spent some time there as well... as a software dev in a central enterprise systems group...

    ...also did stints at Microsoft, T-Mobile, and Amazon.

    To be honest, the UW was no worse than those 3 companies.... which is why I always laugh at the argument that the state wastes money.

    You want to see money waste... spend some time working at Microsoft or Amazon.

    What is ironic is that some view the state as so evil, that they want to hold their budgeting practices to a higher standard than what the private sector practices... giving the private sector a pass because it isn't tax payer money... yet ignoring the fact that their argument that the "private sector does everything better" argument is a pile of horse shit.
    Yes this. Large corporations and governments both waste a ton of money. I had a buddy in the capital budgeting department at Boeing. They worked like 2 months out of the year.

    For the comment that large corporations don't waste taxpayer money. Lol really? They are complaining wanting lower tax rates. Why don't they just cut some fat to become more profitable?
    Because large corporations are wasteful, it's OK for government to be wasteful? Did I get that right?
    Read for comprehension. Both waste a ton of money.
  • HuskyInAZ
    HuskyInAZ Member Posts: 1,732
    2001400ex said:

    HuskyInAZ said:

    2001400ex said:

    OZONE said:

    socialism sucks. what you get is poor management, impossible coworkers, irresponsible spending, lack of accountability. And how did I learn that? By working at the University of Washington.

    No shit? Which group?

    I spent some time there as well... as a software dev in a central enterprise systems group...

    ...also did stints at Microsoft, T-Mobile, and Amazon.

    To be honest, the UW was no worse than those 3 companies.... which is why I always laugh at the argument that the state wastes money.

    You want to see money waste... spend some time working at Microsoft or Amazon.

    What is ironic is that some view the state as so evil, that they want to hold their budgeting practices to a higher standard than what the private sector practices... giving the private sector a pass because it isn't tax payer money... yet ignoring the fact that their argument that the "private sector does everything better" argument is a pile of horse shit.
    Yes this. Large corporations and governments both waste a ton of money. I had a buddy in the capital budgeting department at Boeing. They worked like 2 months out of the year.

    For the comment that large corporations don't waste taxpayer money. Lol really? They are complaining wanting lower tax rates. Why don't they just cut some fat to become more profitable?
    Because large corporations are wasteful, it's OK for government to be wasteful? Did I get that right?
    Read for comprehension. Both waste a ton of money.
    Whose money do they waste, dumbass. One wastes shareholders' money, who willingly invest. If you don't like how they are run, don't invest. The other wastes taxpayer money, who have no choice. If you don't like how they are run, tough shit. Pay your taxes. A bit of a difference.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    HuskyInAZ said:

    2001400ex said:

    HuskyInAZ said:

    2001400ex said:

    OZONE said:

    socialism sucks. what you get is poor management, impossible coworkers, irresponsible spending, lack of accountability. And how did I learn that? By working at the University of Washington.

    No shit? Which group?

    I spent some time there as well... as a software dev in a central enterprise systems group...

    ...also did stints at Microsoft, T-Mobile, and Amazon.

    To be honest, the UW was no worse than those 3 companies.... which is why I always laugh at the argument that the state wastes money.

    You want to see money waste... spend some time working at Microsoft or Amazon.

    What is ironic is that some view the state as so evil, that they want to hold their budgeting practices to a higher standard than what the private sector practices... giving the private sector a pass because it isn't tax payer money... yet ignoring the fact that their argument that the "private sector does everything better" argument is a pile of horse shit.
    Yes this. Large corporations and governments both waste a ton of money. I had a buddy in the capital budgeting department at Boeing. They worked like 2 months out of the year.

    For the comment that large corporations don't waste taxpayer money. Lol really? They are complaining wanting lower tax rates. Why don't they just cut some fat to become more profitable?
    Because large corporations are wasteful, it's OK for government to be wasteful? Did I get that right?
    Read for comprehension. Both waste a ton of money.
    Whose money do they waste, dumbass. One wastes shareholders' money, who willingly invest. If you don't like how they are run, don't invest. The other wastes taxpayer money, who have no choice. If you don't like how they are run, tough shit. Pay your taxes. A bit of a difference.
    If you don't like how government money is spent, move to another country.

    HTH
  • HuskyInAZ
    HuskyInAZ Member Posts: 1,732
    2001400ex said:

    HuskyInAZ said:

    2001400ex said:

    HuskyInAZ said:

    2001400ex said:

    OZONE said:

    socialism sucks. what you get is poor management, impossible coworkers, irresponsible spending, lack of accountability. And how did I learn that? By working at the University of Washington.

    No shit? Which group?

    I spent some time there as well... as a software dev in a central enterprise systems group...

    ...also did stints at Microsoft, T-Mobile, and Amazon.

    To be honest, the UW was no worse than those 3 companies.... which is why I always laugh at the argument that the state wastes money.

    You want to see money waste... spend some time working at Microsoft or Amazon.

    What is ironic is that some view the state as so evil, that they want to hold their budgeting practices to a higher standard than what the private sector practices... giving the private sector a pass because it isn't tax payer money... yet ignoring the fact that their argument that the "private sector does everything better" argument is a pile of horse shit.
    Yes this. Large corporations and governments both waste a ton of money. I had a buddy in the capital budgeting department at Boeing. They worked like 2 months out of the year.

    For the comment that large corporations don't waste taxpayer money. Lol really? They are complaining wanting lower tax rates. Why don't they just cut some fat to become more profitable?
    Because large corporations are wasteful, it's OK for government to be wasteful? Did I get that right?
    Read for comprehension. Both waste a ton of money.
    Whose money do they waste, dumbass. One wastes shareholders' money, who willingly invest. If you don't like how they are run, don't invest. The other wastes taxpayer money, who have no choice. If you don't like how they are run, tough shit. Pay your taxes. A bit of a difference.
    If you don't like how government money is spent, move to another country.

    HTH
    Fuck-o-dear, you really are a dumbass.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Can you two tardos argue in PMs so I don't get notifications of it?
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    Look at these faggots arguing about wealth redistribution during the Super Bowl.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    2001400ex said:

    HuskyInAZ said:

    2001400ex said:

    HuskyInAZ said:

    2001400ex said:

    OZONE said:

    socialism sucks. what you get is poor management, impossible coworkers, irresponsible spending, lack of accountability. And how did I learn that? By working at the University of Washington.

    No shit? Which group?

    I spent some time there as well... as a software dev in a central enterprise systems group...

    ...also did stints at Microsoft, T-Mobile, and Amazon.

    To be honest, the UW was no worse than those 3 companies.... which is why I always laugh at the argument that the state wastes money.

    You want to see money waste... spend some time working at Microsoft or Amazon.

    What is ironic is that some view the state as so evil, that they want to hold their budgeting practices to a higher standard than what the private sector practices... giving the private sector a pass because it isn't tax payer money... yet ignoring the fact that their argument that the "private sector does everything better" argument is a pile of horse shit.
    Yes this. Large corporations and governments both waste a ton of money. I had a buddy in the capital budgeting department at Boeing. They worked like 2 months out of the year.

    For the comment that large corporations don't waste taxpayer money. Lol really? They are complaining wanting lower tax rates. Why don't they just cut some fat to become more profitable?
    Because large corporations are wasteful, it's OK for government to be wasteful? Did I get that right?
    Read for comprehension. Both waste a ton of money.
    Whose money do they waste, dumbass. One wastes shareholders' money, who willingly invest. If you don't like how they are run, don't invest. The other wastes taxpayer money, who have no choice. If you don't like how they are run, tough shit. Pay your taxes. A bit of a difference.
    If you don't like how government money is spent, move to another country.

    HTH
    You've said some dumb shit in your time, but this might top them all.

    CHRIST
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    PurpleJ said:

    Look at these faggots arguing about wealth redistribution during the Super Bowl.

    Yet you chime in.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    HuskyInAZ said:

    2001400ex said:

    HuskyInAZ said:

    2001400ex said:

    OZONE said:

    socialism sucks. what you get is poor management, impossible coworkers, irresponsible spending, lack of accountability. And how did I learn that? By working at the University of Washington.

    No shit? Which group?

    I spent some time there as well... as a software dev in a central enterprise systems group...

    ...also did stints at Microsoft, T-Mobile, and Amazon.

    To be honest, the UW was no worse than those 3 companies.... which is why I always laugh at the argument that the state wastes money.

    You want to see money waste... spend some time working at Microsoft or Amazon.

    What is ironic is that some view the state as so evil, that they want to hold their budgeting practices to a higher standard than what the private sector practices... giving the private sector a pass because it isn't tax payer money... yet ignoring the fact that their argument that the "private sector does everything better" argument is a pile of horse shit.
    Yes this. Large corporations and governments both waste a ton of money. I had a buddy in the capital budgeting department at Boeing. They worked like 2 months out of the year.

    For the comment that large corporations don't waste taxpayer money. Lol really? They are complaining wanting lower tax rates. Why don't they just cut some fat to become more profitable?
    Because large corporations are wasteful, it's OK for government to be wasteful? Did I get that right?
    Read for comprehension. Both waste a ton of money.
    Whose money do they waste, dumbass. One wastes shareholders' money, who willingly invest. If you don't like how they are run, don't invest. The other wastes taxpayer money, who have no choice. If you don't like how they are run, tough shit. Pay your taxes. A bit of a difference.
    If you don't like how government money is spent, move to another country.

    HTH
    You've said some dumb shit in your time, but this might top them all.

    CHRIST
    I was making a point.

    Reality is, government won't stop wasting money until we get all the lobbying dollars out. Right now, Republicans are bought off by corporate welfare and military spending. Democrats are bought off by welfare spending. Neither will cut from social security or medicare.

    So.... We are stuck wasting billions of dollars. FML
  • ApostleofGrief
    ApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904

    socialism sucks. what you get is poor management, impossible coworkers, irresponsible spending, lack of accountability. And how did I learn that? By working at the University of Washington.

    This is the only post on this forum people have liked. Now you know why maybe I don't like the UW.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,467 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Look at these faggots arguing about wealth redistribution during the Super Bowl.

    Yet you chime in.
    You still won't chime out. Less is more.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Look at these faggots arguing about wealth redistribution during the Super Bowl.

    Yet you chime in.
    You still won't chime out. Less is more.
    Nice contribution as always.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    HuskyInAZ said:

    2001400ex said:

    HuskyInAZ said:

    2001400ex said:

    OZONE said:

    socialism sucks. what you get is poor management, impossible coworkers, irresponsible spending, lack of accountability. And how did I learn that? By working at the University of Washington.

    No shit? Which group?

    I spent some time there as well... as a software dev in a central enterprise systems group...

    ...also did stints at Microsoft, T-Mobile, and Amazon.

    To be honest, the UW was no worse than those 3 companies.... which is why I always laugh at the argument that the state wastes money.

    You want to see money waste... spend some time working at Microsoft or Amazon.

    What is ironic is that some view the state as so evil, that they want to hold their budgeting practices to a higher standard than what the private sector practices... giving the private sector a pass because it isn't tax payer money... yet ignoring the fact that their argument that the "private sector does everything better" argument is a pile of horse shit.
    Yes this. Large corporations and governments both waste a ton of money. I had a buddy in the capital budgeting department at Boeing. They worked like 2 months out of the year.

    For the comment that large corporations don't waste taxpayer money. Lol really? They are complaining wanting lower tax rates. Why don't they just cut some fat to become more profitable?
    Because large corporations are wasteful, it's OK for government to be wasteful? Did I get that right?
    Read for comprehension. Both waste a ton of money.
    Whose money do they waste, dumbass. One wastes shareholders' money, who willingly invest. If you don't like how they are run, don't invest. The other wastes taxpayer money, who have no choice. If you don't like how they are run, tough shit. Pay your taxes. A bit of a difference.
    If you don't like how government money is spent, move to another country.

    HTH
    You've said some dumb shit in your time, but this might top them all.

    CHRIST
    I was making a point.

    Reality is, government won't stop wasting money until we get all the lobbying dollars out. Right now, Republicans are bought off by corporate welfare and military spending. Democrats are bought off by welfare spending. Neither will cut from social security or medicare.

    So.... We are stuck wasting billions of dollars. FML
    You make points like old people fuck; ugly and slow.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    edited February 2016
    2001400ex said:

    OZONE said:

    socialism sucks. what you get is poor management, impossible coworkers, irresponsible spending, lack of accountability. And how did I learn that? By working at the University of Washington.

    No shit? Which group?

    I spent some time there as well... as a software dev in a central enterprise systems group...

    ...also did stints at Microsoft, T-Mobile, and Amazon.

    To be honest, the UW was no worse than those 3 companies.... which is why I always laugh at the argument that the state wastes money.

    You want to see money waste... spend some time working at Microsoft or Amazon.

    What is ironic is that some view the state as so evil, that they want to hold their budgeting practices to a higher standard than what the private sector practices... giving the private sector a pass because it isn't tax payer money... yet ignoring the fact that their argument that the "private sector does everything better" argument is a pile of horse shit.
    Yes this. Large corporations and governments both waste a ton of money. I had a buddy in the capital budgeting department at Boeing. They worked like 2 months out of the year.

    For the comment that large corporations don't waste taxpayer money. Lol really? They are complaining wanting lower tax rates. Why don't they just cut some fat to become more profitable?
    When two great minds get together, this is the drivel that you get.


    Let me help both of you out. The Government is responsible for providing the highest quality of services possible based on the funding available to their programs. They report to the tax payer, not the other way around as you libs seem to believe.

    Big companies and corporations are responsible to their shareholders and that is it. If the bottom line is good, the BoD and shareholders don't care about expenditures such as R and D and promotion being what some may believe to be excessive.