Poll: Most Americans Want Redistribution of Wealth
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"...and are so mindnumblingly stupid as to not realize that it most redistribution will go straight from the working middle class to the poor."
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That is not an official quote from the story.
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The reason why we? were founded as a republic.
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Sounds like your news source is lying to you.allpurpleallgold said:That is not an official quote from the story.
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The monetary system and monetary policy since the 80s has given birth to and subsidized the financial industry at the expense of everything else. The financial industry as a size of the economy is gigantic. It doesn't create wealth by itself, it only sucks wealth out of everything else productive. It really is only supposed to create wealth indirectly by financing the productive economy which creates the real wealth for society.
Most people don't have a problem with Bill Gates because he actually produced something. These asshole financial managers who can borrow tons of money at 0.25% and make $250 Million and then have their losses subsidized because it will crash the system are an example of a truly fucked up system. Its socialism for the financial industry.
There will be a big global debt and monetary reset in the next 10 or so years which will reshape the monetary system and economy positively. However, average people will continue to get hurt leading up to and during the transition.
Giving people free college or student debt relief at the expense of "the rich" is a terrible idea. College is already somewhat subsidized through loans and that has resulted in a degradation of the quality and usefulness of education and escalating costs.
And I'll bet Sanders wants to tax people making 250K or even 500K. The problem is not the top 1%. Its the top 0.01% and especially those in the financial industry who earn shitgobs of money and society doesn't benefit. Trump has it right. Raise taxes on these fuckers and do a massive tax cut for the middle class. Incentivize corporations to hire more via lower taxes.
Whoever wins is going to be dealing with a recession and you will see a massive increase in government spending and probably tax cuts also. The economy will recover and grow faster but inflation is going to become a major problem. -
I'm sure you jerked off wildly to that videoallpurpleallgold said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJmAaohHJfc
It scares me that a socialist can gain so much traction. -
socialism sucks. what you get is poor management, impossible coworkers, irresponsible spending, lack of accountability. And how did I learn that? By working at the University of Washington.
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It was impliedallpurpleallgold said:That is not an official quote from the story.
The politics of envy work. That's why politicians use it -
TL;DR: buy gold.HeretoBeatmyChest said:The monetary system and monetary policy since the 80s has given birth to and subsidized the financial industry at the expense of everything else. The financial industry as a size of the economy is gigantic. It doesn't create wealth by itself, it only sucks wealth out of everything else productive. It really is only supposed to create wealth indirectly by financing the productive economy which creates the real wealth for society.
Most people don't have a problem with Bill Gates because he actually produced something. These asshole financial managers who can borrow tons of money at 0.25% and make $250 Million and then have their losses subsidized because it will crash the system are an example of a truly fucked up system. Its socialism for the financial industry.
There will be a big global debt and monetary reset in the next 10 or so years which will reshape the monetary system and economy positively. However, average people will continue to get hurt leading up to and during the transition.
Giving people free college or student debt relief at the expense of "the rich" is a terrible idea. College is already somewhat subsidized through loans and that has resulted in a degradation of the quality and usefulness of education and escalating costs.
And I'll bet Sanders wants to tax people making 250K or even 500K. The problem is not the top 1%. Its the top 0.01% and especially those in the financial industry who earn shitgobs of money and society doesn't benefit. Trump has it right. Raise taxes on these fuckers and do a massive tax cut for the middle class. Incentivize corporations to hire more via lower taxes.
Whoever wins is going to be dealing with a recession and you will see a massive increase in government spending and probably tax cuts also. The economy will recover and grow faster but inflation is going to become a major problem. -
A completely random and non-biased Google Image Search (with safe filters off) lead to me believe that we need a pole to really determine whether conservatism or socialism is the way to go:
https://www.google.com/search?q=hot+conservative+chicks&biw=1680&bih=925&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj5spXp0t7KAhVN5WMKHYDgBXsQ_AUIBigB
https://www.google.com/search?q=hot+socialist+chicks&biw=1680&bih=925&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwin5M6F0t7KAhVLwWMKHVr0DVcQ_AUIBigB#imgrc=oQKbBslCllNkFM%3A -
Is that you Mr. Galt?HeretoBeatmyChest said:The monetary system and monetary policy since the 80s has given birth to and subsidized the financial industry at the expense of everything else. The financial industry as a size of the economy is gigantic. It doesn't create wealth by itself, it only sucks wealth out of everything else productive. It really is only supposed to create wealth indirectly by financing the productive economy which creates the real wealth for society.
Most people don't have a problem with Bill Gates because he actually produced something. These asshole financial managers who can borrow tons of money at 0.25% and make $250 Million and then have their losses subsidized because it will crash the system are an example of a truly fucked up system. Its socialism for the financial industry.
There will be a big global debt and monetary reset in the next 10 or so years which will reshape the monetary system and economy positively. However, average people will continue to get hurt leading up to and during the transition.
Giving people free college or student debt relief at the expense of "the rich" is a terrible idea. College is already somewhat subsidized through loans and that has resulted in a degradation of the quality and usefulness of education and escalating costs.
And I'll bet Sanders wants to tax people making 250K or even 500K. The problem is not the top 1%. Its the top 0.01% and especially those in the financial industry who earn shitgobs of money and society doesn't benefit. Trump has it right. Raise taxes on these fuckers and do a massive tax cut for the middle class. Incentivize corporations to hire more via lower taxes.
Whoever wins is going to be dealing with a recession and you will see a massive increase in government spending and probably tax cuts also. The economy will recover and grow faster but inflation is going to become a major problem. -
Here's a couple comments:
1) most people, including most of you meatheads, don't know what actual socialism is.
2) pure capitalism will fuck the country up the same as pure socialism will.
3) now that the economy is better, we should close some loopholes on the wealthy, like tax capital gains over $1,000,000 as ordinary income. (There is no reason why I should pay a higher marginal rate than Warren Buffet or Mitt Romney)
4) we should close some loopholes on corporations.
5) after we have more tax revenue, fucking don't spend it on politicians pet projects.
What will happen? More tax revenue, spending the same, we might actually balance a budget. -
3) now that the economy is better, we should close some loopholes on the wealthy, like tax capital gains over $1,000,000 as ordinary income. (There is no reason why I should pay a higher marginal rate than Warren Buffet or Mitt Romney)
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Some hedge funds will do practically anything for an edge (insider trading being the end game).
Also the long-term decline of interest rates from double digits to basically zero over the last 30+ years has helped push up asset prices (which help the wealthy since they own most assets) but it has especially led to malinvestment since the Great Recession since the hurdle rate companies have needed to get a return exceeding their cost of capital has been so low. That's been especially true in the oil and commodities space because though demand has slowed, commodities have been crushed mostly because of excess capacity since debt has been so cheap.
The good thing is that with lower gas prices, American households are saving more (which pisses off economists who predicted they would spend gas savings to juice the consumer economy). Since debt is really consumption / investment brought forward, it takes time for debt to be paid off and demand to rise again. I see this as a good thing but companies and the Federal Government have more debt than ever before.
In fact, the 2015 Federal Budget Deficit rose for the first time since 2009 which is very troubling....Obama and Democrats have raised multiple taxes in the last 7 years but the deficit is still going up?!? WTF.
Personally, I think government at all levels (city, county, state, Federal) keeps trying to do more and more, adding programs annually but getting less and less. I wish someone would run for Seattle City Mayor and say they aim to combine and eliminate dozens of programs / departments because it's a cluster fuck with less and less accountability. -
The economy never recovered because the fucksticks in the bored (lol!) rooms realized that with money so cheap there was no point in hiring back to pre recession levels. That's my thesis. The corporate profit margin index is broken, and basically so is the current version of capitalism. I would love to redistribute my foot up Lloyd Blankfein's ass.
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And Alan Greenspan's. Fuck that guy.
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More deludedly hopeful than Cuogs on signing day.2001400ex said:Here's a couple comments:
1) most people, including most of you meatheads, don't know what actual socialism is.
2) pure capitalism will fuck the country up the same as pure socialism will.
3) now that the economy is better, we should close some loopholes on the wealthy, like tax capital gains over $1,000,000 as ordinary income. (There is no reason why I should pay a higher marginal rate than Warren Buffet or Mitt Romney)
4) we should close some loopholes on corporations.
5) after we have more tax revenue, fucking don't spend it on politicians pet projects.
What will happen? More tax revenue, spending the same, we might actually balance a budget. -
Do you honestly believe the masses (who finally figured out they could vote themselves money) will vote for someone who says either more pigs get slaughtered or their trough be emptied? When a system like Seattle's has gone down the path of big government as it has, I honestly can't see it being turned around by the local voters who seemingly benefit from the corruption. Unfortunately, I believe it has to get so bad that the decision is no longer theirs.HFNY said:Some hedge funds will do practically anything for an edge (insider trading being the end game).
Also the long-term decline of interest rates from double digits to basically zero over the last 30+ years has helped push up asset prices (which help the wealthy since they own most assets) but it has especially led to malinvestment since the Great Recession since the hurdle rate companies have needed to get a return exceeding their cost of capital has been so low. That's been especially true in the oil and commodities space because though demand has slowed, commodities have been crushed mostly because of excess capacity since debt has been so cheap.
The good thing is that with lower gas prices, American households are saving more (which pisses off economists who predicted they would spend gas savings to juice the consumer economy). Since debt is really consumption / investment brought forward, it takes time for debt to be paid off and demand to rise again. I see this as a good thing but companies and the Federal Government have more debt than ever before.
In fact, the 2015 Federal Budget Deficit rose for the first time since 2009 which is very troubling....Obama and Democrats have raised multiple taxes in the last 7 years but the deficit is still going up?!? WTF.
Personally, I think government at all levels (city, county, state, Federal) keeps trying to do more and more, adding programs annually but getting less and less. I wish someone would run for Seattle City Mayor and say they aim to combine and eliminate dozens of programs / departments because it's a cluster fuck with less and less accountability. -
TheGlove said:
TL;DR: buyHeretoBeatmyChest said:The monetary system and monetary policy since the 80s has given birth to and subsidized the financial industry at the expense of everything else. The financial industry as a size of the economy is gigantic. It doesn't create wealth by itself, it only sucks wealth out of everything else productive. It really is only supposed to create wealth indirectly by financing the productive economy which creates the real wealth for society.
Most people don't have a problem with Bill Gates because he actually produced something. These asshole financial managers who can borrow tons of money at 0.25% and make $250 Million and then have their losses subsidized because it will crash the system are an example of a truly fucked up system. Its socialism for the financial industry.
There will be a big global debt and monetary reset in the next 10 or so years which will reshape the monetary system and economy positively. However, average people will continue to get hurt leading up to and during the transition.
Giving people free college or student debt relief at the expense of "the rich" is a terrible idea. College is already somewhat subsidized through loans and that has resulted in a degradation of the quality and usefulness of education and escalating costs.
And I'll bet Sanders wants to tax people making 250K or even 500K. The problem is not the top 1%. Its the top 0.01% and especially those in the financial industry who earn shitgobs of money and society doesn't benefit. Trump has it right. Raise taxes on these fuckers and do a massive tax cut for the middle class. Incentivize corporations to hire more via lower taxes.
Whoever wins is going to be dealing with a recession and you will see a massive increase in government spending and probably tax cuts also. The economy will recover and grow faster but inflation is going to become a major problem.goldammo and a bunker. -
2001400ex said:
Here's a couple comments:
1) Socialism is the best economic system on the field, enough said on that. It has 150 years under its belt and will do everything possible to redistribute the wealth.
2) Party Line - We average an IQ of 33.2 across the line, they are ready to dominate the line of bullshit. Stalin, Sanders, Obama, Marx, Ossai etc. These boys have the attitude and are ready to rumble.
3) Free Shit - Same old scheme and a new attitude. Every player has spoke out about the difference between Free Shit 2015 and Free Shit 2016, we will see a much improved handout on 11/8
4. Rhetoric, Rhetoric, Rhetoric - This is the slickest our talk has been in a long time. Improved economy, more jobs, free college, single payer, tax the rich, etc. The newbies will be inexperienced but will bring something that we have always had in past elections, jealous rhetoric.
5. Media Control - I think we can dominate the air time stat. The more we can shorten the game and keep our defense off of the field, the better chance we have to win the game
I think Socialism will win rather easily, say 17-17. -
I'm hearing The Morning Consult Poll brought to you by the The Young Turks Network would have no partisan bias at at all.allpurpleallgold said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJmAaohHJfc
It scares me that a socialist can gain so much traction.
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You raise taxes on the ultra rich, they move out of country. And who really cares if they do.
You raise taxes on big corporations, they move out of country and take a ton of jobs with them. One should care about that.
You raises taxes on people making less than $500,000 per year, it's a nice feel good for the little guy but is a drop in the bucket in increased tax revenue.
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Most Americans are stupid and lazy so this is no surprise.
Of course, my capitalist company is full of lazy and stupid motherfuckers, and nobody fires them - they fire the people who call out the stupid and lazy motherfuckers because that's what HR-heavy companies do. There simply is no reason to work hard and produce because it's all about whose ass your nose is planted in, not what you do to pull money in.
This country is all about coddling dumbfucks and losers. It won't change until the whole shit comes crashing down and dumbfucks and lazy assholes die like they should have years ago.
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You...complete me.dflea said:Most Americans are stupid and lazy so this is no surprise.
Of course, my capitalist company is full of lazy and stupid motherfuckers, and nobody fires them - they fire the people who call out the stupid and lazy motherfuckers because that's what HR-heavy companies do. There simply is no reason to work hard and produce because it's all about whose ass your nose is planted in, not what you do to pull money in.
This country is all about coddling dumbfucks and losers. It won't change until the whole shit comes crashing down and dumbfucks and lazy assholes die like they should have years ago. -
flagged again for the young regressives.allpurpleallgold said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJmAaohHJfc
It scares me that a socialist can gain so much traction.
They make hondo sound like donald trump when talking about islam
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Fucking this.dflea said:Most Americans are stupid and lazy so this is no surprise.
Of course, my capitalist company is full of lazy and stupid motherfuckers, and nobody fires them - they fire the people who call out the stupid and lazy motherfuckers because that's what HR-heavy companies do. There simply is no reason to work hard and produce because it's all about whose ass your nose is planted in, not what you do to pull money in.
This country is all about coddling dumbfucks and losers. It won't change until the whole shit comes crashing down and dumbfucks and lazy assholes die like they should have years ago. -
Exactly, and it's like I said before....dflea said:Most Americans are stupid and lazy so this is no surprise.
Of course, my capitalist company is full of lazy and stupid motherfuckers, and nobody fires them - they fire the people who call out the stupid and lazy motherfuckers because that's what HR-heavy companies do. There simply is no reason to work hard and produce because it's all about whose ass your nose is planted in, not what you do to pull money in.
This country is all about coddling dumbfucks and losers. It won't change until the whole shit comes crashing down and dumbfucks and lazy assholes die like they should have years ago.
I will respect Dems when they back up their 99% shit with some guillotines and I will respect the Repubs when they back up their gun nut tea party shit by going full Confederacy on our Yankee asses. -
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Someone has gotten olderdflea said:Most Americans are stupid and lazy so this is no surprise.
Of course, my capitalist company is full of lazy and stupid motherfuckers, and nobody fires them - they fire the people who call out the stupid and lazy motherfuckers because that's what HR-heavy companies do. There simply is no reason to work hard and produce because it's all about whose ass your nose is planted in, not what you do to pull money in.
This country is all about coddling dumbfucks and losers. It won't change until the whole shit comes crashing down and dumbfucks and lazy assholes die like they should have years ago.
