The Texas Experiment
Does this spell the end of the Texas experiment? Or does CP double down and try to hire a new recruiting ace or two from Texas?
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I don't think you give up on Texas, but they should reconsider their strategies there considering that we only have Rice and Fuller to show for it.
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I think texas is a long game, way too crowded of a recruiting scene to just show up and crush it.
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Well we obviously didn't show up and crush it so that is the purple colored glasses view at this pointLoneStarDawg said:I think texas is a long game, way too crowded of a recruiting scene to just show up and crush it.
But now our Texas guys are gone soooo....is there really value to the work they put in there that is worth continuing or did we just waste a bunch of time and money? -
I don't think so.FremontTroll said:
Well we obviously didn't show up and crush it so that is the purple colored glasses view at this pointLoneStarDawg said:I think texas is a long game, way too crowded of a recruiting scene to just show up and crush it.
But now our Texas guys are gone soooo....is there really value to the work they put in there that is worth continuing or did we just waste a bunch of time and money?
Petersen is still a national name, and he has successfully recruited kids from Texas to BSU who are now in the NFL [citation needed].
The issue with Texas is that every school in the country is trying to recruit kids there. He's not going to hit any homeruns there without a Willie Lyles, but he can get decent athletes that the major schools ignore that can become decent contributors. Victor Aieywa is a great example of the caliber of athletes that he can pull from Texas to UW. -
Disagreewhatshouldicareabout said:
I don't think so.FremontTroll said:
Well we obviously didn't show up and crush it so that is the purple colored glasses view at this pointLoneStarDawg said:I think texas is a long game, way too crowded of a recruiting scene to just show up and crush it.
But now our Texas guys are gone soooo....is there really value to the work they put in there that is worth continuing or did we just waste a bunch of time and money?
Petersen is still a national name, and he has successfully recruited kids from Texas to BSU who are now in the NFL [citation needed].
The issue with Texas is that every school in the country is trying to recruit kids there. He's not going to hit any homeruns there without a Willie Lyles, but he can get decent athletes that the major schools ignore that can become decent contributors. Victor Aieywa is a great example of the caliber of athletes that he can pull from Texas to UW. -
I can't believe I'm about to say this, but can you, uh, expand on that statement teq?Tequilla said:
Disagreewhatshouldicareabout said:
I don't think so.FremontTroll said:
Well we obviously didn't show up and crush it so that is the purple colored glasses view at this pointLoneStarDawg said:I think texas is a long game, way too crowded of a recruiting scene to just show up and crush it.
But now our Texas guys are gone soooo....is there really value to the work they put in there that is worth continuing or did we just waste a bunch of time and money?
Petersen is still a national name, and he has successfully recruited kids from Texas to BSU who are now in the NFL [citation needed].
The issue with Texas is that every school in the country is trying to recruit kids there. He's not going to hit any homeruns there without a Willie Lyles, but he can get decent athletes that the major schools ignore that can become decent contributors. Victor Aieywa is a great example of the caliber of athletes that he can pull from Texas to UW.
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Two things working for petersen are that 1. The Cowboys like drafting his players, scandrick and Lawrence. Boise state players seen as good value draft picks.
2. For better or worse he's taken tier 2 guys from Dallas, if they develop into studs I think he can really build from that as evidence to other recruits.
Purple colored glasses I know, but you don't just show up in dallas and take kids away from UOklahoma, Texas, ATM, OSU, TCU, Baylor, LSU, Alabama from day one. -
Recruiting in Texas as the foundation of your class if you are the head coach at UW is FS ...
However, if you can get a handful of players to supplement your program and/or get an elite player or two, then it's worth the effort if done in moderation.
@LoneStarDawg broke it down about right that you're either going to get 2nd tier guys or elite guys ... probably nothing in the middle. Right now, UW isn't in a position where they are going to successfully pull elite guys out of Texas. There's too many options for these kids in deciding whether to stay in state (2 currently elite programs there in TCU and Baylor, then the legacy that is Texas that still pulls rank in the state), head north to play for Oklahoma that is always in the national picture, or head to the SEC with both an in-state option in TAMU or next door to LSU (particularly true for kids from Houston). Add to that probably another dozen or so schools that recruit the area hard and for UW, you're not high on the pecking order at present. That's ok though for now.
For UW, recruiting has always been about recruiting in-state first and then California second. In-state, generally speaking, we're going to get a good number of our line players and elite athletes in the state. We will never be able to satisfy our needs at WR and DB in state and it is critical that we're in the hunt in California for those players. Where we can get hurt in recruiting is in years where there is a shortage of players on the West Coast at certain position groupings. It's in years like that where having enough in roads in a second talent rich area like Texas can help us (in the short term) stem the tide and still get at least depth players into the program.
The current path that UW is on is moving in the direction of being an elite program in the PAC. Should we get to that point and have the ability to sustain it, then we're able to get into living rooms that we otherwise wouldn't be able to and try to find that difference maker or two in Texas that is interested in winning championships, playing in the biggest games, and perhaps looking for something different than what he's used to. We're probably 3-5 years away from really being able to pull elite guys like that ... but I can see a day where that happens. We've seen high end guys from Texas head to Eugene ... outside of Nike, there's not a single thing that Oregon has that we don't offer something better. -
Could you expand on that for me?Tequilla said:Recruiting in Texas as the foundation of your class if you are the head coach at UW is FS ...
However, if you can get a handful of players to supplement your program and/or get an elite player or two, then it's worth the effort if done in moderation.
@LoneStarDawg broke it down about right that you're either going to get 2nd tier guys or elite guys ... probably nothing in the middle. Right now, UW isn't in a position where they are going to successfully pull elite guys out of Texas. There's too many options for these kids in deciding whether to stay in state (2 currently elite programs there in TCU and Baylor, then the legacy that is Texas that still pulls rank in the state), head north to play for Oklahoma that is always in the national picture, or head to the SEC with both an in-state option in TAMU or next door to LSU (particularly true for kids from Houston). Add to that probably another dozen or so schools that recruit the area hard and for UW, you're not high on the pecking order at present. That's ok though for now.
For UW, recruiting has always been about recruiting in-state first and then California second. In-state, generally speaking, we're going to get a good number of our line players and elite athletes in the state. We will never be able to satisfy our needs at WR and DB in state and it is critical that we're in the hunt in California for those players. Where we can get hurt in recruiting is in years where there is a shortage of players on the West Coast at certain position groupings. It's in years like that where having enough in roads in a second talent rich area like Texas can help us (in the short term) stem the tide and still get at least depth players into the program.
The current path that UW is on is moving in the direction of being an elite program in the PAC. Should we get to that point and have the ability to sustain it, then we're able to get into living rooms that we otherwise wouldn't be able to and try to find that difference maker or two in Texas that is interested in winning championships, playing in the biggest games, and perhaps looking for something different than what he's used to. We're probably 3-5 years away from really being able to pull elite guys like that ... but I can see a day where that happens. We've seen high end guys from Texas head to Eugene ... outside of Nike, there's not a single thing that Oregon has that we don't offer something better. -
Mr. Cervix, please don't feed the bears.AlCzervik said:
Could you expand on that for me?Tequilla said:Recruiting in Texas as the foundation of your class if you are the head coach at UW is FS ...
However, if you can get a handful of players to supplement your program and/or get an elite player or two, then it's worth the effort if done in moderation.
@LoneStarDawg broke it down about right that you're either going to get 2nd tier guys or elite guys ... probably nothing in the middle. Right now, UW isn't in a position where they are going to successfully pull elite guys out of Texas. There's too many options for these kids in deciding whether to stay in state (2 currently elite programs there in TCU and Baylor, then the legacy that is Texas that still pulls rank in the state), head north to play for Oklahoma that is always in the national picture, or head to the SEC with both an in-state option in TAMU or next door to LSU (particularly true for kids from Houston). Add to that probably another dozen or so schools that recruit the area hard and for UW, you're not high on the pecking order at present. That's ok though for now.
For UW, recruiting has always been about recruiting in-state first and then California second. In-state, generally speaking, we're going to get a good number of our line players and elite athletes in the state. We will never be able to satisfy our needs at WR and DB in state and it is critical that we're in the hunt in California for those players. Where we can get hurt in recruiting is in years where there is a shortage of players on the West Coast at certain position groupings. It's in years like that where having enough in roads in a second talent rich area like Texas can help us (in the short term) stem the tide and still get at least depth players into the program.
The current path that UW is on is moving in the direction of being an elite program in the PAC. Should we get to that point and have the ability to sustain it, then we're able to get into living rooms that we otherwise wouldn't be able to and try to find that difference maker or two in Texas that is interested in winning championships, playing in the biggest games, and perhaps looking for something different than what he's used to. We're probably 3-5 years away from really being able to pull elite guys like that ... but I can see a day where that happens. We've seen high end guys from Texas head to Eugene ... outside of Nike, there's not a single thing that Oregon has that we don't offer something better.
