You're both wrong/right. Ducks will never get back to where they were under Helf. No way, no how. And, yet, UW still will always shrivel up whenever they play us. Thankfully, I'm hearing that DP will be gone which will help a little. But Helf just isn't hard-nosed enough to be a top-tier coach. His cutesy shit like "A loose groin is a happy groin - I think Confucius said that " is just lame. Kids will never wanna "Run Thru Walls" for him.
Duck Ceiling under Helf: Pac-12 North titles. NW Cup Titles. Doog Ceiling under Woodward: Holiday Bowl
Stanford: They will use the shit out of McCaffrey, who will be a preseason All American. Unlike UW, they play to their strengths. TE's all return. They do the best job of developing OL in the Pac 12. Their defense should be better next year. This year is their worst season on defense in recent memory. They have been consistently good for awhile. They are well coached, they recruit well, they develop their players. The likely favorite.
Oregon: Best skill talent in the league. Freeman is one of the best RB's in the country. Defense likely won't be good, but they can't get much worse. The game will be at Oregon. QB is a question mark. Helfrich is a moron, but so are most the coaches in the Pac 12.
UW: Best defense in the conference. Tons of questions on offense.
WSU: Falk is actually good, but they are still the Cuogs. Not a real threat, but they are better than I thought, especially after losing to Portland State.
Oregon State: Terrible
Cal: Will suck without Goff. They are probably better than Oregon State, but placing them anywhere but last would feel wrong.
Wow, You're lazier than the National writers.
First, You're lack of any real knowledge of anything Cougar Football is noted.
Second: How did Oregon's embarrassment of riches at the skill positions do without a QB this year? What's changing next year? Sure they beat you guys but not without their QB. And who else did they beat without an experienced QB this year? They will struggle at first.
Third: Stanford, while having a good running game will have a new QB next year. And any offense with a pulse can score 30 pts on their vaunted D THIS year. They lose quite a few players on D next year as well.
To say that this is Stanfords down year with a 4 year starter at the helm is beyond FS.
Unless they get a 5th year transfer, they will be down next year. Cook it.
Don't jump back on the bandwagon when UW wins the North next year
In what alternate reality?
UW returns everyone worth anything besides Perkins and Tupou, who are replaceable. Another offseason of natties and roids and this team should win a minimum of 10 games. We lose -2 Wins Mickens and gain 2 Wins Ross, so that's a 4 game swing right there.
Our worst enemy will be the offensive playcalling. This is also the factor that worries me the most. If that gets fixed, look out. If it doesn't get fixed, fire Petersen.
Furd loses a lot of experienced players. Hogan, Garnett, Rector to name a few. They will still be tuff and have Vanilla Ice back at RB. UW should be able to best them at home.
Oregon loses Adams, Carrington, will start a loser at QB, 4th year of Helfrich regression . An experienced UW squad should win this on the road but will probably lose.
Oregon State sucks, Cal sucks and will suck even worse when savior Jared Goff goes to the NFL.
The south sucks.
At Wazzu will probably be the toughest game on the Doog schedule, at least on paper. Coogs don't really lose anyone, maybe Marks? The Apple Cup could determine the North winner, in which case the Cuogs will piss themselves since they have something to play for.
FFS.
Carrington is a soph. They get back Pharoah Brown who was 1st team Pac-12 TE in 2014, Byron Marshall looks like he'll get his waiver if he wants it. The QB Jonsen is gonna be a star.
Your King County All Stars will get it dry and bleed again again in Eugene.
Anytime you can give up 62 to Utah at home and lose to WSU in the same season you are clearly moving in the right direction.
Because you ran over Cal.
Quooks gotta quook
Any examples that don't involve Pop Warner quarterbacks?
Doog on.
Which Pop Warner QB are you trotting out there next year.
Mahalek or is Taylor staying on campus all Summer eating pig iron and shitting wind sprints into Spring ball? Or is it the great Quook hope of a QB not on campus just yet?
Anytime you can give up 62 to Utah at home and lose to WSU in the same season you are clearly moving in the right direction.
Because you ran over Cal.
Quooks gotta quook
Any examples that don't involve Pop Warner quarterbacks?
Doog on.
Which Pop Warner QB are you trotting out there next year.
Mahalek or is Taylor staying on campus all Summer eating pig iron and shitting wind sprints into Spring ball? Or is it the great Quook hope of a QB not on campus just yet?
Dear Twat. Neither.
Study more. Coogies get pretty chest thumpy when they scratch one out for the first time in 7 years against the practice squad Qb's.
Look irregardless of 12 in a row and accusations of dooging the quooking in this thread is far worse. Teen Army Boy Awards and QBs who haven't seen the field as saviors is fucking stupid.
Oregon regressed this year. "Yeah it was always going to be this year" is the type of stupid shit doogs are saying about OUR throw away year. Always have to copy us don't you?
Two losses and counting. Loss to WSU. Not beating UW by 3 touchdowns. Lose to Stanford and you're looking at 3-4 losses.
Look irregardless of 12 in a row and accusations of dooging the quooking in this thread is far worse. Teen Army Boy Awards and QBs who haven't seen the field as saviors is fucking stupid.
Oregon regressed this year. "Yeah it was always going to be this year" is the type of stupid shit doogs are saying about OUR throw away year. Always have to copy us don't you?
Two losses and counting. Loss to WSU. Not beating UW by 3 touchdowns. Lose to Stanford and you're looking at 3-4 losses.
But then Helfirch and Pellum will right the ship.
Or not.
Saviors? Nah.
Track record of success under Helfrich and Frost is where my optimism comes from at the QB position and have no doubt in my mind that Jonsen will be another handfull at QB. Had VAJ spent the summer in Eugene and all of fall camp, instead of trying to figure out 2+2 , this conversation wouldn't be occurring. Even the doogiest of doogs can see the difference he makes as he gets more time in the offense. They did an admirable job with a 3 star Qb the last couple years.
Doogs on the other hand are used to fucking failures at the Qb position regardless of the star ratings. They have proved for 15 years that trotting piles of shit out week after week behind center is what they do.
I see how you can get confused. It's the same doog hope and pray thought process that's been going strong since 2005.
Look irregardless of 12 in a row and accusations of dooging the quooking in this thread is far worse. Teen Army Boy Awards and QBs who haven't seen the field as saviors is fucking stupid.
Oregon regressed this year. "Yeah it was always going to be this year" is the type of stupid shit doogs are saying about OUR throw away year. Always have to copy us don't you?
Two losses and counting. Loss to WSU. Not beating UW by 3 touchdowns. Lose to Stanford and you're looking at 3-4 losses.
But then Helfirch and Pellum will right the ship.
Or not.
Saviors? Nah.
Track record of success under Helfrich and Frost is where my optimism comes from at the QB position and have no doubt in my mind that Jonsen will be another handfull at QB. Had VAJ spent the summer in Eugene and all of fall camp, instead of trying to figure out 2+2 , this conversation wouldn't be occurring. Even the doogiest of doogs can see the difference he makes as he gets more time in the offense. They did an admirable job with a 3 star Qb the last couple years.
Doogs on the other hand are used to fucking failures at the Qb position regardless of the star ratings. They have proved for 15 years that trotting piles of shit out week after week behind center is what they do.
I see how you can get confused. It's the same doog hope and pray thought process that's been going strong since 2005.
I clearly said irregardless of the doogs. Your deflection is noted
Look irregardless of 12 in a row and accusations of dooging the quooking in this thread is far worse. Teen Army Boy Awards and QBs who haven't seen the field as saviors is fucking stupid.
Oregon regressed this year. "Yeah it was always going to be this year" is the type of stupid shit doogs are saying about OUR throw away year. Always have to copy us don't you?
Two losses and counting. Loss to WSU. Not beating UW by 3 touchdowns. Lose to Stanford and you're looking at 3-4 losses.
But then Helfirch and Pellum will right the ship.
Or not.
Saviors? Nah.
Track record of success under Helfrich and Frost is where my optimism comes from at the QB position and have no doubt in my mind that Jonsen will be another handfull at QB. Had VAJ spent the summer in Eugene and all of fall camp, instead of trying to figure out 2+2 , this conversation wouldn't be occurring. Even the doogiest of doogs can see the difference he makes as he gets more time in the offense. They did an admirable job with a 3 star Qb the last couple years.
Doogs on the other hand are used to fucking failures at the Qb position regardless of the star ratings. They have proved for 15 years that trotting piles of shit out week after week behind center is what they do.
I see how you can get confused. It's the same doog hope and pray thought process that's been going strong since 2005.
I clearly said irregardless of the doogs. Your deflection is noted
My English teacher told me that irregardless was not a word and was a redundant form of the word regardless. Personally, I believe you are correct and it is a word, it just confuses me and subconsciously I prepare for a ruler to the back of the knuckles.
The origin of irregardless is not known for certain, but the speculation among references is that it may be a blend, or portmanteau word, of irrespective and regardless, both of which are standard English words. By blending these words, a word is created whose meaning is not predictable from the meanings of its constituent morphemes. Since the prefix ir- means "not" (as it does with irrespective), and the suffix -less means "without", the word contains a double negative.
Look irregardless of 12 in a row and accusations of dooging the quooking in this thread is far worse. Teen Army Boy Awards and QBs who haven't seen the field as saviors is fucking stupid.
Oregon regressed this year. "Yeah it was always going to be this year" is the type of stupid shit doogs are saying about OUR throw away year. Always have to copy us don't you?
Two losses and counting. Loss to WSU. Not beating UW by 3 touchdowns. Lose to Stanford and you're looking at 3-4 losses.
But then Helfirch and Pellum will right the ship.
Or not.
Saviors? Nah.
Track record of success under Helfrich and Frost is where my optimism comes from at the QB position and have no doubt in my mind that Jonsen will be another handfull at QB. Had VAJ spent the summer in Eugene and all of fall camp, instead of trying to figure out 2+2 , this conversation wouldn't be occurring. Even the doogiest of doogs can see the difference he makes as he gets more time in the offense. They did an admirable job with a 3 star Qb the last couple years.
Doogs on the other hand are used to fucking failures at the Qb position regardless of the star ratings. They have proved for 15 years that trotting piles of shit out week after week behind center is what they do.
I see how you can get confused. It's the same doog hope and pray thought process that's been going strong since 2005.
I clearly said irregardless of the doogs. Your deflection is noted
My English teacher told me that irregardless was not a word and was a redundant form of the word regardless. Personally, I believe you are correct and it is a word, it just confuses me and subconsciously I prepare for a ruler to the back of the knuckles.
The origin of irregardless is not known for certain, but the speculation among references is that it may be a blend, or portmanteau word, of irrespective and regardless, both of which are standard English words. By blending these words, a word is created whose meaning is not predictable from the meanings of its constituent morphemes. Since the prefix ir- means "not" (as it does with irrespective), and the suffix -less means "without", the word contains a double negative.
When we started using irregardless as a joke it wasn't a word. It has actually been added to the dictionary because so many fucktards use it on the internets, which is why we first started using it as a joke.
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Cheap shot.
Thankfully, I'm hearing that DP will be gone which will help a little. But Helf just isn't hard-nosed enough to be a top-tier coach. His cutesy shit like "A loose groin is a happy groin - I think Confucius said that " is just lame. Kids will never wanna "Run Thru Walls" for him.
Duck Ceiling under Helf: Pac-12 North titles. NW Cup Titles.
Doog Ceiling under Woodward: Holiday Bowl
Wow, You're lazier than the National writers.
First, You're lack of any real knowledge of anything Cougar Football is noted.
Second: How did Oregon's embarrassment of riches at the skill positions do without a QB this year? What's changing next year? Sure they beat you guys but not without their QB. And who else did they beat without an experienced QB this year? They will struggle at first.
Third: Stanford, while having a good running game will have a new QB next year. And any offense with a pulse can score 30 pts on their vaunted D THIS year. They lose quite a few players on D next year as well.
To say that this is Stanfords down year with a 4 year starter at the helm is beyond FS.
Unless they get a 5th year transfer, they will be down next year. Cook it.
We hate losers here
Disagree
Mahalek or is Taylor staying on campus all Summer eating pig iron and shitting wind sprints into Spring ball? Or is it the great Quook hope of a QB not on campus just yet?
No retard.
Next year's Qb had minor surgery and will be good to go next season as a redshirt Frosh.
You appear to be as fucktarded as they say you are around here.
Dear Twat. Neither.
Study more. Coogies get pretty chest thumpy when they scratch one out for the first time in 7 years against the practice squad Qb's.
Coogs sometimes....
Some homework for you:
Oregon regressed this year. "Yeah it was always going to be this year" is the type of stupid shit doogs are saying about OUR throw away year. Always have to copy us don't you?
Two losses and counting. Loss to WSU. Not beating UW by 3 touchdowns. Lose to Stanford and you're looking at 3-4 losses.
But then Helfirch and Pellum will right the ship.
Or not.
Saviors? Nah.
Track record of success under Helfrich and Frost is where my optimism comes from at the QB position and have no doubt in my mind that Jonsen will be another handfull at QB. Had VAJ spent the summer in Eugene and all of fall camp, instead of trying to figure out 2+2 , this conversation wouldn't be occurring. Even the doogiest of doogs can see the difference he makes as he gets more time in the offense. They did an admirable job with a 3 star Qb the last couple years.
Doogs on the other hand are used to fucking failures at the Qb position regardless of the star ratings. They have proved for 15 years that trotting piles of shit out week after week behind center is what they do.
I see how you can get confused. It's the same doog hope and pray thought process that's been going strong since 2005.
My English teacher told me that irregardless was not a word and was a redundant form of the word regardless. Personally, I believe you are correct and it is a word, it just confuses me and subconsciously I prepare for a ruler to the back of the knuckles.
The origin of irregardless is not known for certain, but the speculation among references is that it may be a blend, or portmanteau word, of irrespective and regardless, both of which are standard English words. By blending these words, a word is created whose meaning is not predictable from the meanings of its constituent morphemes. Since the prefix ir- means "not" (as it does with irrespective), and the suffix -less means "without", the word contains a double negative.
Kind of a mute point now