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Pete isn't who we thought he was

What I don't get is how does a guy who went 92-12 or whatever it was at Boise, was known for his offensive creativity, was regarded as one of the smartest coaches in the country, always had his teams ready for big games, and had so many programs trying to lure him out of Boise, go to Washington and look completely inept? How the hell did he win the Bear Bryant REAL Football Coach of the Year Award? TWICE?!?!?!?!?!? This makes no sense whatsoever. How does a guy who had balls the size of grapefruits at Boise come to Washington and look timid, scared, and completely overwhelmed? It's like he needs Gene Hackman to come measure the goalposts for him and tell him everything is the same size as it was at Boise. It's still the same game on the same size field, but Pete doesn't look like the same guy, and it doesn't add up at all.

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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,926 Founders Club
    He hasn't been fired yet?
  • biak1
    biak1 Member Posts: 4,237
    Scarves up. I fucking hate this school.
  • MisterEm
    MisterEm Member Posts: 6,685

    He hasn't been fired yet?

    Like it would do any good. When you have a bull dyke president and Scott fucking Woodward at AD you're fucked no matter what.
    Thanks for the reminder.

    Too early for whiskey?
  • dongman
    dongman Member Posts: 2,384
    at least there is the sounders to watch!!!
  • KenND
    KenND Member Posts: 272
    1. Boise State played one team with a pulse every year.
    2. UW's QB situation is an abortion, which is why he's rolling the dice and playing Browning as a true freshman.
  • jecornel
    jecornel Member Posts: 9,737
    We know all we need to know....

    Pete sucks.....
  • Meek
    Meek Member Posts: 7,031
    Pete went from who we thought he was to who we hoped he was to who we hate almost as fast as Sark flamed out at USC. Fucking amazing the anti-midas effect UW has on football. Was there a curse from a witch in a swamp 15 years ago that we missed?
  • EsophagealFeces
    EsophagealFeces Member Posts: 13,163
    Swaye said:

    Meek said:

    Pete went from who we thought he was to who we hoped he was to who we hate almost as fast as Sark flamed out at USC. Fucking amazing the anti-midas effect UW has on football. Was there a curse from a witch in a swamp 15 years ago that we missed?

    Yes, but it was over 20 years ago and her name was Babs.
    Fuck your 15 minutes and 53 seconds
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club

    Swaye said:

    Meek said:

    Pete went from who we thought he was to who we hoped he was to who we hate almost as fast as Sark flamed out at USC. Fucking amazing the anti-midas effect UW has on football. Was there a curse from a witch in a swamp 15 years ago that we missed?

    Yes, but it was over 20 years ago and her name was Babs.
    Fuck your 15 minutes and 53 seconds
    We share the same brain.
  • Thump
    Thump Member Posts: 793

    What I don't get is how does a guy who went 92-12 or whatever it was at Boise, was known for his offensive creativity, was regarded as one of the smartest coaches in the country, always had his teams ready for big games, and had so many programs trying to lure him out of Boise, go to Washington and look completely inept? How the hell did he win the Bear Bryant REAL Football Coach of the Year Award? TWICE?!?!?!?!?!? This makes no sense whatsoever. How does a guy who had balls the size of grapefruits at Boise come to Washington and look timid, scared, and completely overwhelmed? It's like he needs Gene Hackman to come measure the goalposts for him and tell him everything is the same size as it was at Boise. It's still the same game on the same size field, but Pete doesn't look like the same guy, and it doesn't add up at all.

    His last year at BSU, he lost 5 games with a subpar QB. Even Sark's UW beat him.

    His great record at BSU was due to him having a player skill, and coaching advantage over most of the teams in his conference -- and the one or two times a year that they played a power 5 conf team -- they basically had 4 weeks to prep for each game because while they were prepping they were only playing schools like Wyoming or New Mex St.

    In the Pac 12, he most certainly does not have a player skill advantage over the other teams, and our offense certainly does not have a coaching advantage over anybody.

    He wasn't a genius at BSU. He was just on that team in that conference that had the most resources.
  • KenND
    KenND Member Posts: 272
    Thump said:

    What I don't get is how does a guy who went 92-12 or whatever it was at Boise, was known for his offensive creativity, was regarded as one of the smartest coaches in the country, always had his teams ready for big games, and had so many programs trying to lure him out of Boise, go to Washington and look completely inept? How the hell did he win the Bear Bryant REAL Football Coach of the Year Award? TWICE?!?!?!?!?!? This makes no sense whatsoever. How does a guy who had balls the size of grapefruits at Boise come to Washington and look timid, scared, and completely overwhelmed? It's like he needs Gene Hackman to come measure the goalposts for him and tell him everything is the same size as it was at Boise. It's still the same game on the same size field, but Pete doesn't look like the same guy, and it doesn't add up at all.

    His last year at BSU, he lost 5 games with a subpar QB. Even Sark's UW beat him.

    His great record at BSU was due to him having a player skill, and coaching advantage over most of the teams in his conference -- and the one or two times a year that they played a power 5 conf team -- they basically had 4 weeks to prep for each game because while they were prepping they were only playing schools like Wyoming or New Mex St.

    In the Pac 12, he most certainly does not have a player skill advantage over the other teams, and our offense certainly does not have a coaching advantage over anybody.

    He wasn't a genius at BSU. He was just on that team in that conference that had the most resources.
    Boise also scheduled byes after their one big game of the year. Look at the year that they beat Georgia. They had months to prepare, played a Georgia team with a bunch of new starters on defense, and then had a bye in the second week of the year to avoid a letdown game.

    Who in the hell schedules a bye in week 2? They did it again after playing Michigan State the next year, and in 2010 after playing Virginia Tech.
  • EsophagealFeces
    EsophagealFeces Member Posts: 13,163
    Good poonts, fellas. I guess we were fucktards for thinking he was anything more than what we see now.
  • MrsPetersen
    MrsPetersen Member Posts: 724
    If you assholes can't see that Pete is different from Sark and Tyrone I can't help you. #DoogsOnTwitterToday
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,468 Founders Club
    edited October 2015
    I didn't read the poast, just the headline.

    Are you saying Ken Griswold was right?
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,137

    He hasn't been fired yet?

    Like it would do any good. When you have a bull dyke president and Scott fucking Woodward at AD you're fucked no matter what.
    I want to agree, but these coaches have close to unlimited budgets and we have a MWC QB coach from an average team as our OC.
  • TyronesGhost
    TyronesGhost Member Posts: 20
    Well as someone who also was a fraud I'll tell you.

    1st of all Dan Mother Fuckin' Hawkins...he went to the buffs and started that downward rocky mountain turdshow on ice spiral.

    Boise was great under him. 53-11...then...as my pappy used to always say...when the ice melts...the shit floats, and boy did it float to the surface...

    You had Bryan Harsin as the OC as Bosie who left to go be a Mack Brown fluffer down in Texas and he bailed as soon as possible to get out of there as that ship started to sink...went to Arkansas State where he did fuck all nothing, and then Back to Boise after the hiring of Peteypoo he was hero and then Utah State kicked their head in while Peteypoo struggled against them...yet somehow beat Utah State.

    So how did this fraud show happen?...Well Boise State plays in a crappy conference they usually schedule a big OOC game 1st of the year so they have all camp to prepare...they win that and ride the momentum thinking they are great....but get any of those coaches out of Boise and it's disasterville.

    Look at Deep Throat Choate...he leaves Boise goes to the Coogs runs around trying to El Paso then to Muchamp at Florida for that crap hole and runs back to the teat of Peteypoo after nothing but failures...

    The fact that he isn't some coaching genius should be obvious from all the patterns coming out of the Boisehole.

    Trust me I know failure...and I am here to haunt us all as a reminder that because a coach may seem great from far away...the reality is once he gets close he may stink like shit.

    - Tyones Mutha Fuckin' Ghost
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,137

    The problem is two fold.

    1. We got Petersen after his prime. Not every good coach sustains their success.

    2. He's a fucking idiot who is Kellen Moore obsessed. Everything on offense is about being cute and clever.

    This.

    The three main red flags I saw with Pete were this:

    1) him saying he doesn't run "an offense" he only runs "plays."

    If that's not subtle horse shit coach speak for "I view being cute as the most important element of offense" I don't know what is.

    2) hiring Babushka.

    Literally everyone else on his staff has a great track record. Our D-staff is a fucking all-star team. Pease, Strausser and Bonerphó have all had success.

    Boosh was hired as a QB coach (stupid) with no track record and promoted to OC when Tedford fell through (what I heard; I could be wrong, of course). Putting the least experienced coach in charge of the most important position AND the head coach's area of expertise is a straight Sark move.

    It basically keeps the HC as an "offense" coach and puts the HC in a mentor role as opposed to a CEO role.

    3) The Kellen Moore references.

    Basically showing that Pete is stuck thinking that the way to win is let everyone else take care of other Shit and then design a crazy complex offense for a cerebral QB.

    He made Jeff look awful and I thought, "Jeff sucks"; he made Cyler look awful and I thought, "Cyler sucks", but when he made Black Power look like shit it gave me pause.

    Browning "runs the plays" better than those guys, but he physically is not talented enough to play as a freshman. The fact that Pete doesn't see that (shout out to Kim G, "he looks like a HS kid") shows you he's not evaluating his QB on that dimension.

    Browning has physical talent that says, "start me as a RS-Soph at the earliest". But we are trying our best to ruin him by abusing what's good about him and not letting him develop what's not.

    What a nightmare.

    The fact that we can all see it and he can't shows he probably sucks.

    Unless he really self-evals we are fucked.
    He sucks. If someone wants to believe otherwise that's fine, but we know Pete sucks. We do. The last rats on the ship will get excited over a 4-0 start in 2017, but we know he's not leading us to glory.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club

    The problem is two fold.

    1. We got Petersen after his prime. Not every good coach sustains their success.

    2. He's a fucking idiot who is Kellen Moore obsessed. Everything on offense is about being cute and clever.

    This.

    The three main red flags I saw with Pete were this:

    1) him saying he doesn't run "an offense" he only runs "plays."

    If that's not subtle horse shit coach speak for "I view being cute as the most important element of offense" I don't know what is.

    2) hiring Babushka.

    Literally everyone else on his staff has a great track record. Our D-staff is a fucking all-star team. Pease, Strausser and Bonerphó have all had success.

    Boosh was hired as a QB coach (stupid) with no track record and promoted to OC when Tedford fell through (what I heard; I could be wrong, of course). Putting the least experienced coach in charge of the most important position AND the head coach's area of expertise is a straight Sark move.

    It basically keeps the HC as an "offense" coach and puts the HC in a mentor role as opposed to a CEO role.

    3) The Kellen Moore references.

    Basically showing that Pete is stuck thinking that the way to win is let everyone else take care of other Shit and then design a crazy complex offense for a cerebral QB.

    He made Jeff look awful and I thought, "Jeff sucks"; he made Cyler look awful and I thought, "Cyler sucks", but when he made Black Power look like shit it gave me pause.

    Browning "runs the plays" better than those guys, but he physically is not talented enough to play as a freshman. The fact that Pete doesn't see that (shout out to Kim G, "he looks like a HS kid") shows you he's not evaluating his QB on that dimension.

    Browning has physical talent that says, "start me as a RS-Soph at the earliest". But we are trying our best to ruin him by abusing what's good about him and not letting him develop what's not.

    What a nightmare.

    The fact that we can all see it and he can't shows he probably sucks.

    Unless he really self-evals we are fucked.
    Great point about being in your prime. Some coaches are always great....Saban has been good everywhere, as has Meyer, same with Harbaugh...but look at Jimmy Johnson, great with Miami, great with the Cowboys, then tapered off (kind of lost "it") with the Dolphins. The second incarnation of Joe Gibbs sucked balls, but that guy was a bad ass the first go round. Etc, etc.

    There are CEO's out there that completely kick ass and turn companies around, but 10 years later completely step all over their dick. Just cause you are great once, doesn't mean you will be great forever. CP had "it" for years....but whatever it was is gone like a fart in the wind.

    Good post. Let's fuck?
  • EsophagealFeces
    EsophagealFeces Member Posts: 13,163
    Swaye said:

    Swaye said:

    Meek said:

    Pete went from who we thought he was to who we hoped he was to who we hate almost as fast as Sark flamed out at USC. Fucking amazing the anti-midas effect UW has on football. Was there a curse from a witch in a swamp 15 years ago that we missed?

    Yes, but it was over 20 years ago and her name was Babs.
    Fuck your 15 minutes and 53 seconds
    We share the same brain.
    This is both terrifying and erotic.