So VAJ has a broken finger and he's still gonna start?

BallSacked said:

MikeSeaver said:

BallSacked said:

AZDuck said:

BallSacked said:

AZDuck said:

Vernon Adams against Michigan State with broken finger in his throwing hand:

22-39 309 yards 56.4% 7.92 YPA 30 LONG 1 TD 2 INT 4 SACKS 121.2 RATING

Doogs: LOL HE SUCKS

Mind you, I'm not saying he's great (yet). But that was a pretty damn good performance against MSU's defense with a broken finger in his throwing hand.

Also, the top-rated QB in the league in terms of ESPN's QBR stat is Travis WIlson at Utah. I don't even know what to think about that

Don't mistake productivity for acheivment.

Nobody in the Pac-12 has achieved shit this year, so far

Especially Oregon.

sounds like someone is worried about oregon.

I'm not worried about a 9 fingered mini-Hundley, no.

HTH.

disagree

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

HuskyInAZ said:

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

AZDuck said:

BallSacked said:

AZDuck said:

Vernon Adams against Michigan State with broken finger in his throwing hand:

22-39 309 yards 56.4% 7.92 YPA 30 LONG 1 TD 2 INT 4 SACKS 121.2 RATING

Doogs: LOL HE SUCKS

Mind you, I'm not saying he's great (yet). But that was a pretty damn good performance against MSU's defense with a broken finger in his throwing hand.

Also, the top-rated QB in the league in terms of ESPN's QBR stat is Travis WIlson at Utah. I don't even know what to think about that

Don't mistake productivity for acheivment.

Nobody in the Pac-12 has achieved shit this year, so far

WSU has the best win of the whole league.

End of discussion.

Rutgers > Michigan ???

Rutgers on the road is better than Michigan or Virginia at home.

For now.

Rutgers is the biggest dumpster fire in the country right now. They are missing like 10 players and their AD hates their coach and is trying to find ways to fire him.

RoadDawg55 said:

Tequilla said:

Adams is no better than an average at best PAC QB ... I tend to think he's below average. This is by far the most vulnerable Oregon has been in years.

DPOTD. There aren't 5 QB's in the Pac 12 that are better than Adams. There probably aren't even 3. Kessler, maybe Goff... Who else?

Browning - No

I don't even know who Oregon State's QB is, but I know he sucks.

Liufau - Terrible

Falk - No

Hogan - Lol

Rosen - Probably not at this point. Played pretty poorly against UNLV.

Bercovici - Fuck No. Bercovici is pretty bad.

Soloman - Maybe, but LIPO. I'd probably take Adams.

Wilson - No

Pretty sure you've propped up Hogan in the past ... can't have it both ways.

Couple of clarifying points to my earlier comment about VAJ being an average PAC QB at best ...

First, I generally agree with the idea that the QBs in the conference this year are below average compared to normal. That's to be expected when the conference has lost so many high end QBs in a single year (Hundley, Mannion, Kelly, and Holliday).

Second, what I've generally seen from Adams in the game at Husky Stadium last year and the game on Saturday against Michigan State is that he throws a lot of 50/50 balls in the air hoping his WRs can come down with them. That might work at Eastern. That might work against inferior competition. That's not a recipe for success week in and week out in the PAC.

Third, Oregon's offense has never been known as a team that runs a diverse passing tree in their passing game. The success that they have had in the passing game is IMO much more system driven and tied to the success of their running game forcing teams to sell out versus the run and then be exposed over the top in the passing game.

Finally, the point that has been made in this thread about Oregon's OL is a telling one. Oregon averaged 2.9 yards per rushing attempt against Michigan State. It wasn't all on VAJ as Freeman averaged under 4 yards per carry. This has always been the consistent theme against Oregon getting beat ... you beat the OL first and that kills the rest of their team.

I'm not saying whether or not UW will beat Oregon or not this year. It's way too early to even get an idea on whether UW is good or not this year. I'm cautiously optimistic about the defense and think that it could turn out into a surprising year if the offense can come around.