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  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,425

    HuskyInAZ said:

    Tufunga gets his ass swum.
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    ...and Matt James watches from his back. 3 man rush destroys 5 blockers. It must be a young QB and bad playcalling.
    179 yards. Any coaching staff that can only get 179 yards and doesn't earn any points (they were already in FG position both times) is doing a horrible job. Blaming the players has been the doog model since Ty. Gilby, Ty, Sark, Petersen aren't the ones throwing, catching, blocking, tackling, kicking, and fumbling. You could find these type of plays every bad team. Quit being a doog.
    Anyone who disagrees with this is FS and is no different from a Sark-defending dawgman poster.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326

    HuskyInAZ said:

    HuskyInAZ said:

    Tufunga gets his ass swum.
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    ...and Matt James watches from his back. 3 man rush destroys 5 blockers. It must be a young QB and bad playcalling.
    179 yards. Any coaching staff that can only get 179 yards and doesn't earn any points (they were already in FG position both times) is doing a horrible job. Blaming the players has been the doog model since Ty. Gilby, Ty, Sark, Petersen aren't the ones throwing, catching, blocking, tackling, kicking, and fumbling. You could find these type of plays every bad team. Quit being a doog.
    Let me understand. If you say it was an execution issue, when it clearly was, you're a doog. If you blame it on the coach who called the play, you're a true Husky. Did I get that right?

    The 179 yard issue has quite a bit to do with your boy, Washington. He was horrible. No doubt Smith (not a fan) has to pull his head out and let it rip, but there were plenty of good play calls and audibles with piss poor execution.
    You are a doog because you are mostly absolving the coaches and blaming the talent, just like the Ty, Gilby, and Sark backers did.
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  • HuskyInAZ
    HuskyInAZ Member Posts: 1,733
    Not absolving shitty coaching at all. And I'm not absolving shitty execution by individual players either. I'm able to do that when I don't have either the coaches' or the players' cocks jambed into the back of my throat.

    Label me however you want. When your OL is getting the shit beat out of it all game and your RBs suck, it severely limits what you can do on offense. Everything else has to be nearly perfect, and we're far from that. Is that coaching? To some extent, yes. It also has to do with talent. And today, our coaching and talent on offense is not good at all.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,465 Standard Supporter
    HuskyInAZ said:

    Not absolving shitty coaching at all. And I'm not absolving shitty execution by individual players either. I'm able to do that when I don't have either the coaches' or the players' cocks jambed into the back of my throat.

    Label me however you want. When your OL is getting the shit beat out of it all game and your RBs suck, it severely limits what you can do on offense. Everything else has to be nearly perfect, and we're far from that. Is that coaching? To some extent, yes. It also has to do with talent. And today, our coaching and talent on offense is not good at all.

    Wise up. The coaching on offense is really, really bad. It's fucking terrible. That is the biggest problem.
  • HuskyInAZ
    HuskyInAZ Member Posts: 1,733

    HuskyInAZ said:

    Not absolving shitty coaching at all. And I'm not absolving shitty execution by individual players either. I'm able to do that when I don't have either the coaches' or the players' cocks jambed into the back of my throat.

    Label me however you want. When your OL is getting the shit beat out of it all game and your RBs suck, it severely limits what you can do on offense. Everything else has to be nearly perfect, and we're far from that. Is that coaching? To some extent, yes. It also has to do with talent. And today, our coaching and talent on offense is not good at all.

    Wise up. The coaching on offense is really, really bad. It's fucking terrible. That is the biggest problem.
    Wisdom is what this doog needs? That's rich.

    I didn't like the play calling any more than anyone else. What I couldn't see is defensive alignment. What I did see was their DL dominating our OL, and our RBs not being able to overcome it. That's going to affect play calling, even though that doesn't fit your "fire the coach tomorrow" narrative.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,238
    This is the classic case of abundance.

    There are some GIFs on here where you see how the plays are developing and you see some good and bad. One complaint was that we didn't push the ball down the field. Yet you can see clearly in a GIF that the route combination was 4 verticals and the OL got destroyed on a 3 or 4 man rush.

    The OL is filled with either JAGs or young players just getting their feet wet. Browning is getting his feet wet. Many of the WRs are still young and developing as players. We can say that we blame the coaches for mistakes (and it is fair to expect them to coach up their players), but regardless of how good the coaching is young players will make mistakes. The key isn't so much that they make the mistakes but whether they improve and/or continue to make the same mistakes.

    There are some things that I think that we could do better in the passing game. I'd like to see a few more crossing routes down the field and opportunities for the defense to get confused. The downside of that is that making the right throws in those situations is often based on QB experience and their ability to manipulate the defense. I fully expect Browning to get there but he will make some mistakes in that regard (the robber INT was a solid example of him whiffing on that coverage).

    But the reality is that when you have a young offense/QB in place, the best friend is a solid running game. There did not appear to be many holes during the game. When there were holes, the RB (notably Washington) made the least possible on many of those players. The only rusher to get double digit yards during the game was Browning on QB scrambles.

    I expect that this offense will get better. What I was actually happy to see during the game was that unlike last year Petersen/Smith didn't try to force the plays and take the team out of the game. They played the hand that they were dealt, took advantage of the opportunities that they had, and generally played smart conservative football that was made easier by the defense killing Boise's offense in the second half.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,465 Standard Supporter
    HuskyInAZ said:

    HuskyInAZ said:

    Not absolving shitty coaching at all. And I'm not absolving shitty execution by individual players either. I'm able to do that when I don't have either the coaches' or the players' cocks jambed into the back of my throat.

    Label me however you want. When your OL is getting the shit beat out of it all game and your RBs suck, it severely limits what you can do on offense. Everything else has to be nearly perfect, and we're far from that. Is that coaching? To some extent, yes. It also has to do with talent. And today, our coaching and talent on offense is not good at all.

    Wise up. The coaching on offense is really, really bad. It's fucking terrible. That is the biggest problem.
    Wisdom is what this doog needs? That's rich.

    I didn't like the play calling any more than anyone else. What I couldn't see is defensive alignment. What I did see was their DL dominating our OL, and our RBs not being able to overcome it. That's going to affect play calling, even though that doesn't fit your "fire the coach tomorrow" narrative.
    Smith should have been fired long before tomorrow. He should have never been hired at all. I see the same things as you. One way or another, it all leads back to the coaching. If you really believe there aren't offensive coaching staffs that could get more out of the Peterman offenses, I can't help you. I don't think you want to accept that even though it is happening right in front of your face. Boise State fans were also frustrated with their offenses during Petersen's last two years. Now, through 15 games it has gotten even worse. Over three years is a trend.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,772 Founders Club
    *Fire the coach today
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,238
    No question that should these results continue (and there's no reason at this point to think that Smith is going to produce an average PAC offense this year), Petersen has no choice but to make a change.

    But he's not going to make a change during the year ... so the whole "fire the OC" is old and tired.

    The biggest improvements that we're going to see this year will be growth in players and greater execution. If we're struggling to see that on offense this year then the issue is far greater than Smith IMO and starts to indict other offensive coaches.