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How Alabama coach Nick Saban used psychology to build a football dynasty

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  • 79smoothdawg
    79smoothdawg Member Posts: 721
    We need a wizard dude.
  • RaccoonHarry
    RaccoonHarry Member Posts: 2,161
    Psychology huh? Well, that and a team full of 5 star recruits...
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,347 Founders Club

    Psychology huh? Well, that and a team full of 5 star recruits...
    Uh, yeah, there are tons of teams filled with 5-star recruits. That's the doogliest dooging to ever take place, 'the bullets are the thing that matters'. It turns out it's both! So weird, right?!?!? Both chef *and* ingredients matter! Whoa!!!
    USC before & after Pete is a prime example of this.
    Could use a number of programs as examples including Alabama between Stallings and Saban. Coaching matters BFT.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club

    We need a wizard dude.

    As long as our wizard shows up with fuckpiles of roids.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club

    This is all the psychology you need in 'Bama:

    "Son, run fast, hit hard and score some touchdowns, y'all get some of this:"

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    Wood smash.
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,347 Founders Club
    AlCzervik said:

    Psychology huh? Well, that and a team full of 5 star recruits...
    Uh, yeah, there are tons of teams filled with 5-star recruits. That's the doogliest dooging to ever take place, 'the bullets are the thing that matters'. It turns out it's both! So weird, right?!?!? Both chef *and* ingredients matter! Whoa!!!
    USC before & after Pete is a prime example of this.
    Could use a number of programs as examples including Alabama between Stallings and Saban. Coaching matters BFT.
    Seven out of the last 10 seasons have ended with either Nick Saban or Urban Meyer winning it all - and they've both done it at two different schools. Yes, coaching matters.
    Completely agree. @Dennis_DeYoung and @CFetters_Nacho_Lover nailed it. It takes a chef to make the ingredients work. Saban and Meyer are two of the best.
  • Dardanus
    Dardanus Member Posts: 2,623
    "Give me a team that has a business-like attitude, a team that can deal with adversity when it comes. ... The most destructive phenomenon in sports is relief. It's typically followed by a decrease in performance."

    Totally agree with this. You see this phenomenon in most sports. It's why Chip Kelly was smart to continue to run up the score when ahead by two touchdowns. If you let up, you allow the other team to come back.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,676 Standard Supporter
    Dardanus said:

    "Give me a team that has a business-like attitude, a team that can deal with adversity when it comes. ... The most destructive phenomenon in sports is relief. It's typically followed by a decrease in performance."

    Totally agree with this. You see this phenomenon in most sports. It's why Chip Kelly was smart to continue to run up the score when ahead by two touchdowns. If you let up, you allow the other team to come back.

    I never thought about relief in regard to blowouts. It seems like the mediocre coaches usually whine about the successful ones running it up. The Hawks just smashed the Cardinals a few years ago. Pete Carroll never really let up. They called a fake punt on fourth down (over the line IMO).

    If you think about it, you had better want/demand that the second string to play their best. They're a bad ACL away from starting. If they score TDs, so what? They aren't going to take a knee on every play.
  • SteveInShelton
    SteveInShelton Member Posts: 1,611

    Dardanus said:

    "Give me a team that has a business-like attitude, a team that can deal with adversity when it comes. ... The most destructive phenomenon in sports is relief. It's typically followed by a decrease in performance."

    Totally agree with this. You see this phenomenon in most sports. It's why Chip Kelly was smart to continue to run up the score when ahead by two touchdowns. If you let up, you allow the other team to come back.

    I never thought about relief in regard to blowouts. It seems like the mediocre coaches usually whine about the successful ones running it up. The Hawks just smashed the Cardinals a few years ago. Pete Carroll never really let up. They called a fake punt on fourth down (over the line IMO).

    If you think about it, you had better want/demand that the second string to play their best. They're a bad ACL away from starting. If they score TDs, so what? They aren't going to take a knee on every play.
    I remember what are you talking about. I think it was against Buffalo. Carroll afterwards said it was his fault, he "forgot to signal his players to not go for the fake". You know that was BS though and he wanted to do it.
  • SpoonieLuv
    SpoonieLuv Member Posts: 5,463

    This is all the psychology you need in 'Bama:

    "Son, run fast, hit hard and score some touchdowns, y'all get some of this:"

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    Trying to talk football here

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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    Dardanus said:

    "Give me a team that has a business-like attitude, a team that can deal with adversity when it comes. ... The most destructive phenomenon in sports is relief. It's typically followed by a decrease in performance."

    Totally agree with this. You see this phenomenon in most sports. It's why Chip Kelly was smart to continue to run up the score when ahead by two touchdowns. If you let up, you allow the other team to come back.

    I never thought about relief in regard to blowouts. It seems like the mediocre coaches usually whine about the successful ones running it up. The Hawks just smashed the Cardinals a few years ago. Pete Carroll never really let up. They called a fake punt on fourth down (over the line IMO).

    If you think about it, you had better want/demand that the second string to play their best. They're a bad ACL away from starting. If they score TDs, so what? They aren't going to take a knee on every play.
    I remember what are you talking about. I think it was against Buffalo. Carroll afterwards said it was his fault, he "forgot to signal his players to not go for the fake". You know that was BS though and he wanted to do it.
    They had seen something on tape that they knew they could exploit, so if the other team lined up a certain way it was an automatic fake (like the fake FG against GB). Pete didn't explicity tell them not to fake it if they were up by 40. "Whoops".