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Why does Jordan get a pass for '95?

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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,392 Standard Supporter
    Doogles said:

    And to think I almost didn't click "post discussion"

    I've moved to a much seedier dive and have switched from bloodies to Jameson and headlands ipa.

    I'll keep drinking while the slap fight ensues. LBJ is underrated by this board, but Jordan kept hall of famers from wearing rings. My initial comment was more to the point that Jordan was beaten in his prime and didn't make the finals. Any Houston fans can also call Bullshit on the claim Olajuwon only won bc Jordan wasn't there. He was, he just missed the dance.

    LBJ is not underrated. He's one of the best of all time. Trying to compare him to Jordan is FS though. It's not even close.
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,794 Founders Club
    edited July 2015

    Doogles said:

    And to think I almost didn't click "post discussion"

    I've moved to a much seedier dive and have switched from bloodies to Jameson and headlands ipa.

    I'll keep drinking while the slap fight ensues. LBJ is underrated by this board, but Jordan kept hall of famers from wearing rings. My initial comment was more to the point that Jordan was beaten in his prime and didn't make the finals. Any Houston fans can also call Bullshit on the claim Olajuwon only won bc Jordan wasn't there. He was, he just missed the dance.

    LBJ is not underrated. He's one of the best of all time. Trying to compare him to Jordan is FS though. It's not even close.
    Drunk stream of conscience: Not necessarily comparing him to Jordan, but the mystique about Jordans invincibility is overblown. I guess what im saying is '95 leaves the window open for the next LBJ type to supplant Jordan as the greatest ever.

    It's like @Auburndawg infected the nba universe with this iron law idea that Jordan is the greatest NO MATTER WHAT. I'm saying he lost to Kazaam in his prime. There's a chance. And Lebron isn't done yet.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    Doogles said:

    And to think I almost didn't click "post discussion"

    I've moved to a much seedier dive and have switched from bloodies to Jameson and headlands ipa.

    I'll keep drinking while the slap fight ensues. LBJ is underrated by this board, but Jordan kept hall of famers from wearing rings. My initial comment was more to the point that Jordan was beaten in his prime and didn't make the finals. Any Houston fans can also call Bullshit on the claim Olajuwon only won bc Jordan wasn't there. He was, he just missed the dance.

    LBJ is not underrated. He's one of the best of all time. Trying to compare him to Jordan is FS though. It's not even close.
    Disagree.

  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    Doogles said:

    Doogles said:

    And to think I almost didn't click "post discussion"

    I've moved to a much seedier dive and have switched from bloodies to Jameson and headlands ipa.

    I'll keep drinking while the slap fight ensues. LBJ is underrated by this board, but Jordan kept hall of famers from wearing rings. My initial comment was more to the point that Jordan was beaten in his prime and didn't make the finals. Any Houston fans can also call Bullshit on the claim Olajuwon only won bc Jordan wasn't there. He was, he just missed the dance.

    LBJ is not underrated. He's one of the best of all time. Trying to compare him to Jordan is FS though. It's not even close.
    Drunk stream of conscience: Not necessarily comparing him to Jordan, but the mystique about Jordans invincibility is overblown. I guess what im saying is '95 leaves the window open for the next LBJ type to supplant Jordan as the greatest ever.

    It's like @Auburndawg infected the nba universe with this iron law idea that Jordan is the greatest NO MATTER WHAT. I'm saying he lost to Kazaam in his prime. There's a chance. And Lebron isn't done yet.
    His chance of catching Jordan is.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,392 Standard Supporter

    Doogles said:

    And to think I almost didn't click "post discussion"

    I've moved to a much seedier dive and have switched from bloodies to Jameson and headlands ipa.

    I'll keep drinking while the slap fight ensues. LBJ is underrated by this board, but Jordan kept hall of famers from wearing rings. My initial comment was more to the point that Jordan was beaten in his prime and didn't make the finals. Any Houston fans can also call Bullshit on the claim Olajuwon only won bc Jordan wasn't there. He was, he just missed the dance.

    LBJ is not underrated. He's one of the best of all time. Trying to compare him to Jordan is FS though. It's not even close.
    Disagree.

    There isn't one objective measure to put LeBron above Jordan. Maybe LeBron will finish with more regular season MVP's if you want to stoop that low. But MJ had Pippen and Phil Jackson, LeBron had to play for Mike Brown, yadda, yadda. Facts are facts, boobie lips. If you want to argue that LeBron is better than Bird and Magic, I would agree.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,530 Founders Club
    edited July 2015
    Kareem won one with the Bucks and lost one. Then won 5 with the Lakers and lost 3(?). 6-4 in the finals. Russell was 10-1 (GO HAWKS!!!!. Russell had to beat Wilt every year and then most of the time West and Baylor.

    Magic was 5-4.

    6-0 probably won't be beat except that it already is. Going forward I don't see it happening.

    As I have often said, losing to Dallas is the dark stain on the legacy of Lebron. 3-3 with two of the losses at Cleveland on horrible teams and a loss to the Spurs looks a lot better.

    Lebron probably has 3 years max left before he fades away in the early rounds. His max over under is

    5
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,223
    The "Jordan never beat a NBA champion after the first one against the Lakers" is a little fact picking to me ...

    The 80s only saw title winners in the Celtics, Lakers, Pistons, and 76ers in '83. By the early '90s, all of them had essentially faded away into retirement.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,223
    Jordan didn't look like Jordan when he came back in '95 ... it's the consistency in his game that was off ... which was a hallmark of his game
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,530 Founders Club
    The 2000's was the Lakers and the Spurs. And the Celtics who the Heat beat

    And every year some honks are all over Rose and Chicago's jock