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2001400ex
2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/jeb-bush-people-longer-hours-235206730.html

“My aspiration for the country and I believe we can achieve it, is 4 percent growth as far as the eye can see. Which means we have to be a lot more productive, workforce participation has to rise from its all-time modern lows. It means that people need to work longer hours” and, through their productivity, gain more income for their families. That's the only way we're going to get out of this rut that we're in.”

A 2014 Gallup poll found that already many Americans employed full-time report working, on average, 47 hours a week, while nearly 4 in 10 say they work at least 50 hours a week.
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  • HuskyInAZ
    HuskyInAZ Member Posts: 1,732
    How about removing the Obamacare punishment for employing people full time. Move the 29.5ers to full time, and we may be headed in the right direction. But then again, the 29.5 hour work week is a right wing lie, right?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    HuskyInAZ said:

    How about removing the Obamacare punishment for employing people full time. Move the 29.5ers to full time, and we may be headed in the right direction. But then again, the 29.5 hour work week is a right wing lie, right?

    Show me evidence that the workforce has transitioned from full time to part time the last two years as a result of obamacare.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
  • HuskyInAZ
    HuskyInAZ Member Posts: 1,732
    2001400ex said:

    HuskyInAZ said:

    How about removing the Obamacare punishment for employing people full time. Move the 29.5ers to full time, and we may be headed in the right direction. But then again, the 29.5 hour work week is a right wing lie, right?

    Show me evidence that the workforce has transitioned from full time to part time the last two years as a result of obamacare.
    Albeit anecdotal evidence, my son is currently employed by a civil engineering company here in AZ on a summer internship. His work week is 29.5 hours/week. Where do you think that number came from?
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    I'd love to only work 29.5 hours/week. 4 day weekends would be sweet.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,616 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    HuskyInAZ said:

    How about removing the Obamacare punishment for employing people full time. Move the 29.5ers to full time, and we may be headed in the right direction. But then again, the 29.5 hour work week is a right wing lie, right?

    Show me evidence that the workforce has transitioned from full time to part time the last two years as a result of obamacare.
    That transition started 15 years ago.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    HuskyInAZ said:

    How about removing the Obamacare punishment for employing people full time. Move the 29.5ers to full time, and we may be headed in the right direction. But then again, the 29.5 hour work week is a right wing lie, right?

    Show me evidence that the workforce has transitioned from full time to part time the last two years as a result of obamacare.
    People show you evidence pretty much every time you ask for it. Then once you get fucking destroyed that way you just pretend you never saw it, go "that's your source?", or interpret it in some retarded way that makes no sense to try and support your delusional stances.

    You are seriously the fucking stupidest person I have ever come across.
    Then provide a link with actual facts, not daily caller bullshit that I've shown multiple times lying.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    HuskyInAZ said:

    2001400ex said:

    HuskyInAZ said:

    How about removing the Obamacare punishment for employing people full time. Move the 29.5ers to full time, and we may be headed in the right direction. But then again, the 29.5 hour work week is a right wing lie, right?

    Show me evidence that the workforce has transitioned from full time to part time the last two years as a result of obamacare.
    Albeit anecdotal evidence, my son is currently employed by a civil engineering company here in AZ on a summer internship. His work week is 29.5 hours/week. Where do you think that number came from?
    Show me the obamacare causality. Obamacare is based on full time equivalents. I have no doubt your story is true, as many businesses have benefits to full time employees such as 401k and vacation not provided to part time employees. Obamacare is not the cause.
  • Citrus4Troogs
    Citrus4Troogs Member Posts: 248
    HuskyInAZ said:

    Albeit anecdotal evidence, my son is currently employed by a civil engineering company here in AZ on a summer internship. His work week is 29.5 hours/week. Where do you think that number came from?

    A employer who doesn't understand the law? An employer may consider an individual to be a seasonal employee if:

    •The typical length of employment for the position is 6 months or less, and
    •The period of employment begins at approximately the same time each year.

    Seasonal employees may not need to be treated as full-timers even if they will work 30+ hours of service per week during the season. Employers can set up measurement periods which can be as long as 12 consecutive months (i.e. longer than the season) to track hours. By doing so, many employers can avoid having to offer healthcare coverage after 90 days of service to seasonal workers who work 30+ hours of service per week.

    Anecdotally speaking, an overwhelming majority of those that employers of skilled workers such as civil engineers provide some sort of basic medical benefits to their FT staff anyway, so limiting seasonal staff do 29.5 hours sounds like either a complete misunderstanding of obamacare or using it as some sort of excuse.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    Or perhaps, doesn't want to upset the other, permanent, fulltime workers at 29.5 hours and no benefits.

    You know... workplace harmony and shit.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    edited July 2015

    HuskyInAZ said:

    Albeit anecdotal evidence, my son is currently employed by a civil engineering company here in AZ on a summer internship. His work week is 29.5 hours/week. Where do you think that number came from?

    A employer who doesn't understand the law? An employer may consider an individual to be a seasonal employee if:

    •The typical length of employment for the position is 6 months or less, and
    •The period of employment begins at approximately the same time each year.

    Seasonal employees may not need to be treated as full-timers even if they will work 30+ hours of service per week during the season. Employers can set up measurement periods which can be as long as 12 consecutive months (i.e. longer than the season) to track hours. By doing so, many employers can avoid having to offer healthcare coverage after 90 days of service to seasonal workers who work 30+ hours of service per week.

    Anecdotally speaking, an overwhelming majority of those that employers of skilled workers such as civil engineers provide some sort of basic medical benefits to their FT staff anyway, so limiting seasonal staff do 29.5 hours sounds like either a complete misunderstanding of obamacare or using it as some sort of excuse.
    But still.

    I didn't read it on breitbart, daily caller, or that UK website so fuck off. (Even tho what you said is correct)
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    citrus4troogs wins thread
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    Yes.

    Apparently there is a rule that says if you don't do your homework on time, you don't get to play at school.

    Some here believe that means VA will stand at the fence with cleats over shoulder, crying and waiting and that will put him behind when 'real' practice starts.

    I believe, VA and the WR's will practice diligently, off site, essentially telling the NCAA to fuckoff.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Yes.

    Apparently there is a rule that says if you don't do your homework on time, you don't get to play at school.

    Some here believe that means VA will stand at the fence with cleats over shoulder, crying and waiting and that will put him behind when 'real' practice starts.

    I believe, VA and the WR's will practice diligently, off site, essentially telling the NCAA to fuckoff.

    Not to mention the VA coach was placed on 29.5 hours so they didn't have to pay his obamacare.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    always reading issues with this one.
  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,681 Founders Club
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    INTERVENTION BITCH! YOU ARE ANNOYINGGGGG
  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,275
    40% of the people do not work 50 hour weeks.

    Bullshit.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    I don't know a single non-governmental full time employee or business owner working less than 50hour weeks right now... other than Damone who is making twice the money with half the effort... and of course the investors who forgot to schedule a return trip with Ozone from the deep Alaskan bush.
  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,275

    I don't know a single non-governmental full time employee or business owner working less than 50hour weeks right now... other than Damone who is making twice the money with half the effort... and of course the investors who forgot to schedule a return trip with Ozone from the deep Alaskan bush.

    These are the same mofo's that when you say it's hot...."I'm from Phoenix...it's not hot." Or when it's cold..."I'm from Alaska you guys just don't know how to drive in it."

    Checking your email from home doesn't count as working....what a load of shit. People just want everyone to think they work harder than everyone else. Life is so tough.

    Christ.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    I hear the salaried have a new survival mantra... NEVER leave before the boss (often times some divorced ugly woman whose kids and family hate her)
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,462 Founders Club

    2001400ex said:

    HuskyInAZ said:

    How about removing the Obamacare punishment for employing people full time. Move the 29.5ers to full time, and we may be headed in the right direction. But then again, the 29.5 hour work week is a right wing lie, right?

    Show me evidence that the workforce has transitioned from full time to part time the last two years as a result of obamacare.
    People show you evidence pretty much every time you ask for it. Then once you get fucking destroyed that way you just pretend you never saw it, go "that's your source?", or interpret it in some retarded way that makes no sense to try and support your delusional stances.

    You are seriously the fucking stupidest person I have ever come across.
    Its egregiousness is why I'm convinced he has to be a paid political troll. I can't imagine that someone would be both a) that fucking dumb and b) that steadfast on a forum where he relentlessly gets lit-up, if not by the minute.


    I think its time DJ (ILTCHDJ, IWILTD) closes the fucking gates on paid political operatives.
  • Blackie
    Blackie Member Posts: 499

    I don't know a single non-governmental full time employee or business owner working less than 50hour weeks right now... other than Damone who is making twice the money with half the effort... and of course the investors who forgot to schedule a return trip with Ozone from the deep Alaskan bush.

    If you're working that much and getting paid based on a 40 hour salary you either suck at your job (and life), or your company is Mr. Hands and you're Kenneth Pinyan. Time to grow up and take responsibility for yourself.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    HuskyInAZ said:

    How about removing the Obamacare punishment for employing people full time. Move the 29.5ers to full time, and we may be headed in the right direction. But then again, the 29.5 hour work week is a right wing lie, right?

    Show me evidence that the workforce has transitioned from full time to part time the last two years as a result of obamacare.
    People show you evidence pretty much every time you ask for it. Then once you get fucking destroyed that way you just pretend you never saw it, go "that's your source?", or interpret it in some retarded way that makes no sense to try and support your delusional stances.

    You are seriously the fucking stupidest person I have ever come across.
    Its egregiousness is why I'm convinced he has to be a paid political troll. I can't imagine that someone would be both a) that fucking dumb and b) that steadfast on a forum where he relentlessly gets lit-up, if not by the minute.


    I think its time DJ (ILTCHDJ, IWILTD) closes the fucking gates on paid political operatives.
    Lol post some actual facts then pop off.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
    HuskyJW said:

    I don't know a single non-governmental full time employee or business owner working less than 50hour weeks right now... other than Damone who is making twice the money with half the effort... and of course the investors who forgot to schedule a return trip with Ozone from the deep Alaskan bush.

    These are the same mofo's that when you say it's hot...."I'm from Phoenix...it's not hot." Or when it's cold..."I'm from Alaska you guys just don't know how to drive in it."

    Checking your email from home doesn't count as working....what a load of shit. People just want everyone to think they work harder than everyone else. Life is so tough.

    Christ.
    Spoken like a government worker
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    HuskyInAZ said:

    How about removing the Obamacare punishment for employing people full time. Move the 29.5ers to full time, and we may be headed in the right direction. But then again, the 29.5 hour work week is a right wing lie, right?

    Show me evidence that the workforce has transitioned from full time to part time the last two years as a result of obamacare.
    People show you evidence pretty much every time you ask for it. Then once you get fucking destroyed that way you just pretend you never saw it, go "that's your source?", or interpret it in some retarded way that makes no sense to try and support your delusional stances.

    You are seriously the fucking stupidest person I have ever come across.
    Its egregiousness is why I'm convinced he has to be a paid political troll. I can't imagine that someone would be both a) that fucking dumb and b) that steadfast on a forum where he relentlessly gets lit-up, if not by the minute.


    I think its time DJ (ILTCHDJ, IWILTD) closes the fucking gates on paid political operatives.
    ...or starts getting a pct of his revenue
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    edited July 2015
    Work smarter not harder ... some need to learn the difference.

    Biggest problem in our workplace right now as a society is that too many have no idea what they are looking for in data and because there is so much of it there is too much of a focus on trying to find anything possible in there that might explain something.

    Bizness has been happening forever and will continue to happen forever ... the things that make you successful are the fundamentals. Execute the fundamentals well and you will succeed ... that will never change. The rest is overthinking it.