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Gary Player on Chambers Bay: 'One of the worst golf courses I've ever seen'

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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    edited June 2015
    Tequilla said:

    So you're saying that the US Open doesn't have brown every year?

    Yes, this year's Open was more brown than normal. But if you go back and look at Pinehurst last year or really any recent US Open that wasn't influenced by rain, you'll find a browning out on every course.

    I'm saying they're not wanting brown. Preserving water may be one of their tenants but brown is a result of that tenant, not the purpose behind. Saying the USGA wants brown courses is ridiculous. Saying the USGA wants to make an environmental statement (and save money) and is willing to tolerate brown courses to meet that end is a much more reasonable claim.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,223
    So you are basically arguing over semantics?

    Low water leads to browning ... if USGA doesn't water it leads to brown conditions ... Not that fucking difficult

    Should probably listen to Uncle Race more
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,504 Founders Club

    Tequilla said:

    So you are basically arguing over semantics?

    Low water leads to browning ... if USGA doesn't water it leads to brown conditions ... Not that fucking difficult

    Should probably listen to Uncle Race more

    Why would I listen to Race? He's a world class jackass and a perfect example of what not to be in 20-30 years.
    Knock out punch right there
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    The putting average for the tournament was 4 putts per round higher than the average on tour. Thats 16 strokes. I thought it was a great tournament with a spectacular finish. Probably as good as seen in a major in recent years. However the greens were a fucking disaster. Nothing to do with alleged poor putting strokes Tequilla.

    The US Open will be coming back, according to a reporter on the golf channel. But he said the USGA was very upset about the greens. That will have to be fixed and also the fan experience improved according to the USGA. Fans couldn't get close to the players nor could they follow a group around the entire course, unlike at most events.

    Luckily, fan support was huge as all the merchandise sold out, tv ratings were really good and there were tons of volunteers for the event. Otherwise, it would have been a one time thing.

    TV ratings were 27% worse than the last primetime open and were worse than Game 6 of the Stanley Cup Final, but still:


    http://blog.timesunion.com/sportsmedia/u-s-open-final-round-rating-a-bit-disappointing/16418/
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,223

    Tequilla said:

    So you are basically arguing over semantics?

    Low water leads to browning ... if USGA doesn't water it leads to brown conditions ... Not that fucking difficult

    Should probably listen to Uncle Race more

    Why would I listen to Race? He's a world class jackass and a perfect example of what not to be in 20-30 years.
    Race is wrong except for when he's right
  • HeretoBeatmyChest
    HeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295

    The putting average for the tournament was 4 putts per round higher than the average on tour. Thats 16 strokes. I thought it was a great tournament with a spectacular finish. Probably as good as seen in a major in recent years. However the greens were a fucking disaster. Nothing to do with alleged poor putting strokes Tequilla.

    The US Open will be coming back, according to a reporter on the golf channel. But he said the USGA was very upset about the greens. That will have to be fixed and also the fan experience improved according to the USGA. Fans couldn't get close to the players nor could they follow a group around the entire course, unlike at most events.

    Luckily, fan support was huge as all the merchandise sold out, tv ratings were really good and there were tons of volunteers for the event. Otherwise, it would have been a one time thing.

    TV ratings were 27% worse than the last primetime open and were worse than Game 6 of the Stanley Cup Final, but still:


    http://blog.timesunion.com/sportsmedia/u-s-open-final-round-rating-a-bit-disappointing/16418/
    Coming off of the lowest ratings ever last year it was a big jump and that is positive as year over year is most important comparison.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    The putting average for the tournament was 4 putts per round higher than the average on tour. Thats 16 strokes. I thought it was a great tournament with a spectacular finish. Probably as good as seen in a major in recent years. However the greens were a fucking disaster. Nothing to do with alleged poor putting strokes Tequilla.

    The US Open will be coming back, according to a reporter on the golf channel. But he said the USGA was very upset about the greens. That will have to be fixed and also the fan experience improved according to the USGA. Fans couldn't get close to the players nor could they follow a group around the entire course, unlike at most events.

    Luckily, fan support was huge as all the merchandise sold out, tv ratings were really good and there were tons of volunteers for the event. Otherwise, it would have been a one time thing.

    TV ratings were 27% worse than the last primetime open and were worse than Game 6 of the Stanley Cup Final, but still:


    http://blog.timesunion.com/sportsmedia/u-s-open-final-round-rating-a-bit-disappointing/16418/
    Coming off of the lowest ratings ever last year it was a big jump and that is positive as year over year is most important comparison.
    Last year didn't have primetime east coast coverage.


    I expect Tequilla to be too stupid to notice these details, not you.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,223
    There's been a lot of Cuog type of behavior in this thread ...

    For a lot of people that claim to not give 2 shits about golf, lots of people plenty butthurt about it ...

    The shitty greens will be fixed ...

    The US Open will return here ...

    The media and players will piss and moan about it ...

    The USGA won't give 2 shits about it.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Tequilla said:

    There's been a lot of Cuog type of behavior in this thread ...

    For a lot of people that claim to not give 2 shits about golf, lots of people plenty butthurt about it ...

    The shitty greens will be fixed ...

    The US Open will return here ...

    The media and players will piss and moan about it ...

    The USGA won't give 2 shits about it.

    The last sentence is on point.

    The USGA doesn't give a shit about good golf.