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AZDuck
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(From German magazine Der Spiegel discussing how inadequate national spending on infrastructure is threatening the country's future)
High speed rail lines in United States:
Entrepreneurship?
USA among the lowest in developed world, but still ahead of the evil Canadians.
Who knew the Danes were so entrepreneurial?
At least our cops are good shots
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I like Damoan's WTFs almost as much as I like BATTLEFIELD COMMISSIONS!
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I like how when it's something you want a lot of we go by percentages since the US is bigger so percentages make the US look worse by comparison, but when it's something you want few of we go by raw totals since the US is bigger so the totals make the US look worse by comparison.
There are definitely plenty of issues with the US that these numbers sort of illustrate, but the AuburnDawg moving goalpoasts do nothing to add to the credibility of the arguments. -
Just another horrible day to be an American
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Love it or LEAVE it
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Not sure I get your meaning.dnc said:I like how when it's something you want a lot of we go by percentages since the US is bigger so percentages make the US look worse by comparison, but when it's something you want few of we go by raw totals since the US is bigger so the totals make the US look worse by comparison.
There are definitely plenty of issues with the US that these numbers sort of illustrate, but the AuburnDawg moving goalpoasts do nothing to add to the credibility of the arguments.
Homicides per 100,000 is the universally accepted means of determining homicide rates.
Per capita health spending / life expectancy, then overall spending as percentage of GDP. We spend a shit-ton more on health care, on a per-capita basis and as a percentage of GDP than any other country in the world and we have some of the worst health-care outcomes in the developed world. Infant mortality in the US approaches developing country levels. Measuring these things by percentage or raw total changes nothing.
We spend very little as a percentage of GDP relative to our peers on transportation. China (a developing country similar in size to the mainland USA) has built an entire high speed network in the last 20 or so years while we have yet to build our first high speed line, even in regions like the Northeast or Midwest (Chicago hub) or California where the population and distances are ideal for the mode.
Other developed countries are about as good or better at birthing small businesses as we are despite their high taxes and socialism. Of course, health care and education aren't costs that a small businessman in Copenhagen needs to concern himself with, so there is that.
Looking at police shootings: a "raw number graph": There are about 90 million Germans, 70 million Brits, and 25 million Aussies. 401 police shootings (the lower number, Honda would use the 768 because he's ideological like that) per 330 million Americans dwarf the figures in the other countries no matter how you slice the data.
Put another way:
1.215 police shootings per million people in USA
0.24 police shootings per million people in AUS
0.06 police shootings per million people in GER
0.029 police shootings per million people in GBR
Maybe I'm dense but I don't understand your quibble with raw numbers and percentages. Looking at any of the above topics using one or the other does not reveal another outcome. If you can illustrate with an example, I'd appreciate it. -
Is Hondo on vacation?
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I'm not arguing it changes the problem any, like I said there are some big problems illustrated here. But on one hand you say "Homicides per 100,000 is the universally accepted means of determining homicide rates" yet you readily admit the chart at the bottom isn't using homicide rate, it's using raw numbers. And the raw numbers make the gap (which is drastic) look more drastic than it is. But of course, if we used raw numbers on the percentage of GDP used for infrastructure it would make the US look considerably better than it does in the graph you used.AZDuck said:
Not sure I get your meaning.dnc said:I like how when it's something you want a lot of we go by percentages since the US is bigger so percentages make the US look worse by comparison, but when it's something you want few of we go by raw totals since the US is bigger so the totals make the US look worse by comparison.
There are definitely plenty of issues with the US that these numbers sort of illustrate, but the AuburnDawg moving goalpoasts do nothing to add to the credibility of the arguments.
Homicides per 100,000 is the universally accepted means of determining homicide rates.
Per capita health spending / life expectancy, then overall spending as percentage of GDP. We spend a shit-ton more on health care, on a per-capita basis and as a percentage of GDP than any other country in the world and we have some of the worst health-care outcomes in the developed world. Infant mortality in the US approaches developing country levels. Measuring these things by percentage or raw total changes nothing.
We spend very little as a percentage of GDP relative to our peers on transportation. China (a developing country similar in size to the mainland USA) has built an entire high speed network in the last 20 or so years while we have yet to build our first high speed line, even in regions like the Northeast or Midwest (Chicago hub) or California where the population and distances are ideal for the mode.
Other developed countries are about as good or better at birthing small businesses as we are despite their high taxes and socialism. Of course, health care and education aren't costs that a small businessman in Copenhagen needs to concern himself with, so there is that.
Looking at police shootings: a "raw number graph": There are about 90 million Germans, 70 million Brits, and 25 million Aussies. 401 police shootings (the lower number, Honda would use the 768 because he's ideological like that) per 330 million Americans dwarf the figures in the other countries no matter how you slice the data.
Put another way:
1.215 police shootings per million people in USA
0.24 police shootings per million people in AUS
0.06 police shootings per million people in GER
0.029 police shootings per million people in GBR
Maybe I'm dense but I don't understand your quibble with raw numbers and percentages. Looking at any of the above topics using one or the other does not reveal another outcome. If you can illustrate with an example, I'd appreciate it.
I'm not arguing with your conclusions, I'm just arguing with the way the data is presented. There's inherent bias in the presentation. And yes, I'm aware everybody does it. I've made the same poont to d2d but he does these poasts so often I mostly just ignore them. Since you were a fresh Grantland wannabe, I thought I'd poont out the inherent probrem in your presentation. -
RaceBannon said:
Is Hondo on his knees?
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MOVE to Canada
