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RaceBannon
RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,167 Founders Club
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  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,167 Founders Club
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381

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    Probably one of the biggest war heroes ever to run for the office

    35 B-24 missions over Germany
    Recipient of Distinguished Flying Cross
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,167 Founders Club
    My first presidential campaign
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    AZDuck said:

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    Probably one of the biggest war heroes ever to run for the office

    35 B-24 missions over Germany
    Recipient of Distinguished Flying Cross
    Preemptive yeah-but-still.
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  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    PRESIDENTIAL candidates
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    AZDuck said:

    PRESIDENTIAL candidates

    See preemptive yeah-but-still above.
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    edited May 2015
    AZDuck said:

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    Probably one of the biggest war heroes ever to run for the office

    35 B-24 missions over Germany
    Recipient of Distinguished Flying Cross
    W. Bush's National Guard service is nothing to sneeze at.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,167 Founders Club
  • SpoonieLuv
    SpoonieLuv Member Posts: 5,463
    edited May 2015
    AZDuck said:

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    Bernie Sanders made his speech criticizing the opulence of multiple brands of deodorant and shoes being sold while children in the world starve.

    Speech was made under the banner of Ben and Jerry's Ice Cream; a food company which makes over 100 different flavors of premium ice cream

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  • SpoonieLuv
    SpoonieLuv Member Posts: 5,463

    Fuck Hillary

    "No thanks!"

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  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    Anyone remember when Bill Nye blew Jack Roberts on a refrigerator?
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    edited May 2015

    AZDuck said:

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    Bernie Sanders made his speech criticizing the opulence of multiple brands of deodorant and shoes being sold while children in the world starve.

    Speech was made under the banner of Ben and Jerry's Ice Cream; a food company which makes over 100 different flavors of premium ice cream

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    Bernie is not arguing, contrary to what Tankersley suggests, that we spend too much buying deodorant. This should be pretty obvious as he didn't talk about the quantity of deodorant being consumed, but instead the dizzying (and socially useless) number of products in the deodorant category. The massive prizes our economic system pays out to someone who can capture deodorant market share with slick advertising may indeed incentivize them to innovate new branding strategies, but, Bernie amusingly asks, would cutting that incentive really be so bad?
    http://www.demos.org/blog/5/27/15/bernie-sanders-deodorant-argument-one-most-substantive-campaign-so-far

    This is what politics has devolved to. Ignoring real issues that have real consequences in favor of soundbites and slogans that no one really believes, but many people repeat. No one seriously thought Al Gore claimed he invented the internet. No one seriously thought Howard Dean's scream made him unqualified to be president. No one seriously thinks Sanders blames childhood hunger on deodorant. These are all distractions from honest political discussions.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840
    AZDuck said:

    AZDuck said:

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    Bernie Sanders made his speech criticizing the opulence of multiple brands of deodorant and shoes being sold while children in the world starve.

    Speech was made under the banner of Ben and Jerry's Ice Cream; a food company which makes over 100 different flavors of premium ice cream

    image
    Bernie is not arguing, contrary to what Tankersley suggests, that we spend too much buying deodorant. This should be pretty obvious as he didn't talk about the quantity of deodorant being consumed, but instead the dizzying (and socially useless) number of products in the deodorant category. The massive prizes our economic system pays out to someone who can capture deodorant market share with slick advertising may indeed incentivize them to innovate new branding strategies, but, Bernie amusingly asks, would cutting that incentive really be so bad?
    http://www.demos.org/blog/5/27/15/bernie-sanders-deodorant-argument-one-most-substantive-campaign-so-far

    This is what politics has devolved to. Ignoring real issues that have real consequences in favor of soundbites and slogans that no one really believes, but many people repeat. No one seriously thought Al Gore claimed he invented the internet. No one seriously thought Howard Dean's scream made him unqualified to be president. No one seriously thinks Sanders blames childhood hunger on deodorant. These are all distractions from honest political discussions.

    How could you leave out "no one seriously thought Barack Obama was born in Kenya"?

    Fucking racist.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,167 Founders Club
    Bernie is not arguing, contrary to what Tankersley suggests, that we spend too much buying deodorant. This should be pretty obvious as he didn't talk about the quantity of deodorant being consumed, but instead the dizzying (and socially useless) number of products in the deodorant category. The massive prizes our economic system pays out to someone who can capture deodorant market share with slick advertising may indeed incentivize them to innovate new branding strategies, but, Bernie amusingly asks, would cutting that incentive really be so bad?



    Deodorant isn't serious. It was a fucking stupid analogy. No one wants Bernie Colonel Sanders opinion on the pit market. If you want a serious discussion then talk about something serious.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    I think he is talking about something serious.

    Income inequality in America is greater than it has been since the Gilded Age. We are incentivizing the wrong things.

    Sanders matters mostly because he will keep Hillary accountable to the left.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,167 Founders Club
    We incentivize what we incentivize. The market speaks. That has n bearing on you or me or Bill Gates feeding starving children if their parents can't handle that basic task. One does not hinder the other.

    Phil Knight's success does not take any money from me. And he bought a really cool football team.

    America will never be left enough to outright take money from the successful, We'll just keep taxing it out of them.

    Hilary is accountable to no one. Lesson 1
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    Race, I love your polemical style.

    There was a functioning free market in this country in 1955 when the top marginal rate was north of 90%. GDP growth was higher then, too.

    The fact that the leading candidates in the upcoming election are named Bush and Clinton tells us that we don't live in a pure meritocracy.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,167 Founders Club
    What's the solution? The marginal rate was 90% but no one paid it.

    I have yet to hear how we are going to equalize income. The last Clinton put a cap on CEO pay which led to the explosion of bonus pay that widened the gap.

    Good effort good job

    It's just another divisive issue that will be championed by a chic with a billion dollar war chest and 100 million dollars of ill gotten income lecturing us on how unfair shit us.

    In other words, a bunch of bullshit
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    In order for everyone to be equal, we need rich people to tell us how to make it equal.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    Warren Buffet likes the idea of expanding the Earned Income Credit... worth considering.

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/warren-buffett-s-solution-to-income-inequality-could-work-171802051.html

    "Starve the beast" is starting to show the impact of the strategy - the beast is beginning to starve. Governments need to provide infrastructure and education - our government(s), including most states, are doing less of that now.

    Minnesota is booming, Wisconsin isn't. Which one is controlled by liberals?

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/randi-weingarten/a-tale-of-two-states_b_6870266.html
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840
    AZDuck said:

    Warren Buffet likes the idea of expanding the Earned Income Credit... worth considering.

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/warren-buffett-s-solution-to-income-inequality-could-work-171802051.html

    "Starve the beast" is starting to show the impact of the strategy - the beast is beginning to starve. Governments need to provide infrastructure and education - our government(s), including most states, are doing less of that now.

    Minnesota is booming, Wisconsin isn't. Which one is controlled by liberals?

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/randi-weingarten/a-tale-of-two-states_b_6870266.html

    Earned income credit is a joke. My parentals have done taxes for years and seen just mass amounts of fraud via earned income credit. Expanding it is not the solution.

    It's also another thing that penalizes people for getting married.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    Congratulations! Your tax return says you're below the poverty line! Here's a few hundred bucks to make it all better!
  • SpoonieLuv
    SpoonieLuv Member Posts: 5,463

    Bernie is not arguing, contrary to what Tankersley suggests, that we spend too much buying deodorant. This should be pretty obvious as he didn't talk about the quantity of deodorant being consumed, but instead the dizzying (and socially useless) number of products in the deodorant category. The massive prizes our economic system pays out to someone who can capture deodorant market share with slick advertising may indeed incentivize them to innovate new branding strategies, but, Bernie amusingly asks, would cutting that incentive really be so bad?



    Deodorant isn't serious. It was a fucking stupid analogy. No one wants Bernie Colonel Sanders opinion on the pit market. If you want a serious discussion then talk about something serious.

    Like ice cream.



  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Bernie is not arguing, contrary to what Tankersley suggests, that we spend too much buying deodorant. This should be pretty obvious as he didn't talk about the quantity of deodorant being consumed, but instead the dizzying (and socially useless) number of products in the deodorant category. The massive prizes our economic system pays out to someone who can capture deodorant market share with slick advertising may indeed incentivize them to innovate new branding strategies, but, Bernie amusingly asks, would cutting that incentive really be so bad?



    Deodorant isn't serious. It was a fucking stupid analogy. No one wants Bernie Colonel Sanders opinion on the pit market. If you want a serious discussion then talk about something serious.

    Like ass and ice cream.



  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,167 Founders Club
    Texas is booming Cali isn't. What's the point. If you think the government is starving we'll disagree