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I get it, but just because Bone and Dollar are not huge successes as head coaches, doesn't mean they were mediocre assistants. A lot of good assistants fail as head coaches.dnc said:
I completely disagree with this theory. Bone and Dollar were worthless after leaving Romar.DerekJohnson said:I don't consider him dumb, but in my non-expert opinion (I haven't watched much UW basketball in recent years), my belief is that with Bone and Dollar as assistants he had a perfect symbiosis, and was able to maximize the talent. Once those guys left, he didn't hire adequate replacements, and that's why we've had such poor strategizing and fundamentals since then.
If anyone is responsible for Romar's earlier success it was Nate Robinson, Brandon Roy, Jon Brockman and Isaiah Thomas, not a couple of mediocre assistants.
How were they at recruiting? Maybe they contribute to getting anther impact player or two instead of Giles D, Taylor, etc. They were both decent enough to get head coaching jobs. Bone got a PAC 12 job from succeeding at Portland State. That's far from worthless. -
They don't matter for the same reasons firing Nick Holt didn't matter.RoadDawg55 said:
I get it, but just because Bone and Dollar are not huge successes as head coaches, doesn't mean they were mediocre assistants. A lot of good assistants fail as head coaches.dnc said:
I completely disagree with this theory. Bone and Dollar were worthless after leaving Romar.DerekJohnson said:I don't consider him dumb, but in my non-expert opinion (I haven't watched much UW basketball in recent years), my belief is that with Bone and Dollar as assistants he had a perfect symbiosis, and was able to maximize the talent. Once those guys left, he didn't hire adequate replacements, and that's why we've had such poor strategizing and fundamentals since then.
If anyone is responsible for Romar's earlier success it was Nate Robinson, Brandon Roy, Jon Brockman and Isaiah Thomas, not a couple of mediocre assistants.
How were they at recruiting? Maybe they contribute to getting anther impact player or two instead of Giles D, Taylor, etc. They were both decent enough to get head coaching jobs. Bone got a PAC 12 job from succeeding at Portland State. That's far from worthless.
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I agree and the head coach is really all that ultimately matters. OTOH, the program probably would have been better with Bone and Dollar than without.ThomasFremont said:
They don't matter for the same reasons firing Nick Holt didn't matter.RoadDawg55 said:
I get it, but just because Bone and Dollar are not huge successes as head coaches, doesn't mean they were mediocre assistants. A lot of good assistants fail as head coaches.dnc said:
I completely disagree with this theory. Bone and Dollar were worthless after leaving Romar.DerekJohnson said:I don't consider him dumb, but in my non-expert opinion (I haven't watched much UW basketball in recent years), my belief is that with Bone and Dollar as assistants he had a perfect symbiosis, and was able to maximize the talent. Once those guys left, he didn't hire adequate replacements, and that's why we've had such poor strategizing and fundamentals since then.
If anyone is responsible for Romar's earlier success it was Nate Robinson, Brandon Roy, Jon Brockman and Isaiah Thomas, not a couple of mediocre assistants.
How were they at recruiting? Maybe they contribute to getting anther impact player or two instead of Giles D, Taylor, etc. They were both decent enough to get head coaching jobs. Bone got a PAC 12 job from succeeding at Portland State. That's far from worthless.
HTH
It's not really a valid argument because if you have a successful programs, the assistants are going to get head coaching jobs.
Ultimately there is no excuse for Romar. It's not the assistants, lack of local talent, etc. Those things play a part, but the real reason for the decline is Romar's shitty coaching and program management. -
The reason why Romar was successful was because for a 5-7 year period in the mid 2000's, there was as much talent flowing through the greater Seattle area as anywhere else in America. It's not a coincidence that UW's hoops program became really good at the same time when the Seattle area was producing NBA talent on an annual basis.
The Seattle area hasn't really produced much talent since Tony Wroten. The only real name I can think of off the top of my head is Zach Lavine. For a few years Seattle had Martell Webster, Nate Rob, BRoy, Spencer Hawes, Brockman, Aaaron Brooks, Terrence Willliams, etc. -
RoadDawg55 said:
I get it, but just because Bone and Dollar are not huge successes as head coaches, doesn't mean they were mediocre assistants. A lot of good assistants fail as head coaches.dnc said:
I completely disagree with this theory. Bone and Dollar were worthless after leaving Romar.DerekJohnson said:I don't consider him dumb, but in my non-expert opinion (I haven't watched much UW basketball in recent years), my belief is that with Bone and Dollar as assistants he had a perfect symbiosis, and was able to maximize the talent. Once those guys left, he didn't hire adequate replacements, and that's why we've had such poor strategizing and fundamentals since then.
If anyone is responsible for Romar's earlier success it was Nate Robinson, Brandon Roy, Jon Brockman and Isaiah Thomas, not a couple of mediocre assistants.
How were they at recruiting? Maybe they contribute to getting anther impact player or two instead of Giles D, Taylor, etc. They were both decent enough to get head coaching jobs. Bone got a PAC 12 job from succeeding at Portland State. That's far from worthless.
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Now ya knowhuskyhooligan said:
you end up signing in July the Belgium Ben Devoe.FreeChavez said:
We don't like recruiting or signing players other Big 5 schools would actually take. We prefer the WAC and Big sky types. You know, the FIU washouts. We're not going to get caught dead taking someone Arizona may take, or god forbid Oregon.huskyhooligan said:Yeah his father actually said they haven't been contacted since the decommit (7-8 days ago). Also stated they got the impression Romar has other players lined up and working on and understands Romar doesn't and really at this point can't be left holding the bag on signing day and has moved on.
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