An Instant Classic from The CEO
Tuesday: CEO Kim Grinolds chimes in from London (he wanted everyone to know that he still works the phones while he is on vacation). Says that there is a lot of misinformation out there and wanted to clear the air. According to his sources, Romar is still VERY interested in McLaughlin and is still recruiting him very hard. McLaughlin is getting some bad information and pressure from people around him but is still very interested in UW and UW is still very interested in him.
Wednesday: McLaughlin's dad posts on dawgman and essentially says that Romar has given Jaquori the cold shoulder and has not been in communication with him or the family since he committed months ago. Says Romar has moved on to other players and says without saying that his son is no longer interested in UW due to the lack of communication.
On a side note, I spoke to an acquaintance a few days ago who is a high school coach and very involved in the high school hoops scene in the south sound. He did not have the best things to say about McLaughlin's play translating to the college game.
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For once, we actually DWHA
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Did McLaughlin's dad get a time out?
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No warning, just gone..................DerekJohnson said:Did McLaughlin's dad get a time out?
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I don't know if I buy Romar, at this point, turning down a top 50player in his back yard who he already has in his back pocket. But maybe he's just FS. I watched his film and he seemed pretty damn good to me. I'm sure he'll end up at Arizona and doogs will still say WDWHA
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Roman giving the cold shoulder to any top 100 player in the area seems suicidal considering one of the main arguments for keeping him is keeping the local talent at home.
Something about this seems strange all around. Having a dad come to a message board seems like a high maintenance overly involved family presence.
I'm sure it's a headache to recruit, but At the end of the day, if he can play when the ball is rolled out you need to make an effort.
Romar is dangerously close to tarnishing his legacy if it comes out he already threw in the white towel and is just cashing checks.
He needs to pull a rabbit out of the hat in a bad way or this will go down as lesson 101 on how not to leave with dignity.
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I had to go over and read this stuff. McLaughlin's dad seems like a decent guy, but is way too involved with his son's decision. Dad has always been a big Husky fan and pressured his son (along with others) to commit. He wanted his son to be a home town hero.
Bananas, you seemed to take some liberties with transcribing. Daddy McLaughlin said his son was concerned about things with the program, talked with Romar and de-committed. I'm not sure he can imply without saying that it was because of Romar when he actually writes the reason(s) why he de-committed.
The kid is looking into better basketball programs. I can't say I blame him.
On Romar's end, this is the 2nd time the kid has de-committed. The dad openly posts on a UW message board. He probably was okay with a mutual separation. -
We call that TuesdayRoadDawg55 said:I had to go over and read this stuff. McLaughlin's dad seems like a decent guy, but is way too involved with his son's decision. Dad has always been a big Husky fan and pressured his son (along with others) to commit. He wanted his son to be a home town hero.
Bananas, you seemed to take some liberties with transcribing. Daddy McLaughlin said his son was concerned about things with the program, talked with Romar and de-committed. I'm not sure he can imply without saying that it was because of Romar when he actually writes the reason(s) why he de-committed.
The kid is looking into better basketball programs. I can't say I blame him.
On Romar's end, this is the 2nd time the kid has de-committed. The dad openly posts on a UW message board. He probably was okay with a mutual separation.
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dnc said:
We call that TuesdayRoadDawg55 said:I had to go over and read this stuff. McLaughlin's dad seems like a decent guy, but is way too involved with his son's decision. Dad has always been a big Husky fan and pressured his son (along with others) to commit. He wanted his son to be a home town hero.
Bananas, you seemed to take some liberties with transcribing. Daddy McLaughlin said his son was concerned about things with the program, talked with Romar and de-committed. I'm not sure he can imply without saying that it was because of Romar when he actually writes the reason(s) why he de-committed.
The kid is looking into better basketball programs. I can't say I blame him.
On Romar's end, this is the 2nd time the kid has de-committed. The dad openly posts on a UW message board. He probably was okay with a mutual separation.
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Hey, if a player wants to be apart of that stupid thing called march madness, we don't want you anyway.
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UW is deeply offended that the NCAA tournament makes fun of mental disorders and refuses to participate in the tournament.FreeChavez said:Hey, if a player wants to be apart of that stupid thing called march madness, we don't want you anyway.
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Yeah his father actually said they haven't been contacted since the decommit (7-8 days ago). Also stated they got the impression Romar has other players lined up and working on and understands Romar doesn't and really at this point can't be left holding the bag on signing day and has moved on.
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We don't like recruiting or signing players other Big 5 schools would actually take. We prefer the WAC and Big sky types. You know, the FIU washouts. We're not going to get caught dead taking someone Arizona may take, or god forbid Oregon.huskyhooligan said:Yeah his father actually said they haven't been contacted since the decommit (7-8 days ago). Also stated they got the impression Romar has other players lined up and working on and understands Romar doesn't and really at this point can't be left holding the bag on signing day and has moved on.
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Thanks for making my point for me. You get left holding the bag on signing day, you end up signing in July the Belgium Ben Devoe.FreeChavez said:
We don't like recruiting or signing players other Big 5 schools would actually take. We prefer the WAC and Big sky types. You know, the FIU washouts. We're not going to get caught dead taking someone Arizona may take, or god forbid Oregon.huskyhooligan said:Yeah his father actually said they haven't been contacted since the decommit (7-8 days ago). Also stated they got the impression Romar has other players lined up and working on and understands Romar doesn't and really at this point can't be left holding the bag on signing day and has moved on.
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huskyhooligan said:
Thanks for making my point for me. You get left holding the bag on signing day, you end up signing in July the Belgium Ben Dover.FreeChavez said:
We don't like recruiting or signing players other Big 5 schools would actually take. We prefer the WAC and Big sky types. You know, the FIU washouts. We're not going to get caught dead taking someone Arizona may take, or god forbid Oregon.huskyhooligan said:Yeah his father actually said they haven't been contacted since the decommit (7-8 days ago). Also stated they got the impression Romar has other players lined up and working on and understands Romar doesn't and really at this point can't be left holding the bag on signing day and has moved on.
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Cousins with this guy.TierbsHsotBoobs said:huskyhooligan said:
Thanks for making my point for me. You get left holding the bag on signing day, you end up signing in July the Belgium Ben Dover.FreeChavez said:
We don't like recruiting or signing players other Big 5 schools would actually take. We prefer the WAC and Big sky types. You know, the FIU washouts. We're not going to get caught dead taking someone Arizona may take, or god forbid Oregon.huskyhooligan said:Yeah his father actually said they haven't been contacted since the decommit (7-8 days ago). Also stated they got the impression Romar has other players lined up and working on and understands Romar doesn't and really at this point can't be left holding the bag on signing day and has moved on.
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There is no legacy if he is fired after this year. I think Romar is trying to survive next year by piecing together another great class. A middle Pac 12 finish and another good class and Romar is the coach for another year. Then he might make a tourney and will be able to stay until retirement or until the next 3-4 year drought.Doogles said:Roman giving the cold shoulder to any top 100 player in the area seems suicidal considering one of the main arguments for keeping him is keeping the local talent at home.
Something about this seems strange all around. Having a dad come to a message board seems like a high maintenance overly involved family presence.
I'm sure it's a headache to recruit, but At the end of the day, if he can play when the ball is rolled out you need to make an effort.
Romar is dangerously close to tarnishing his legacy if it comes out he already threw in the white towel and is just cashing checks.
He needs to pull a rabbit out of the hat in a bad way or this will go down as lesson 101 on how not to leave with dignity.
Seriously embarrassing shit surrounding the men's bball program.
Romar is lazy. I'm don't know dick, but there really isn't another answer. He missed out on the big guns and had no realistic fall back plans. Sounds pretty lazy to me. I think now he's actually trying to remedy the situation, but it is likely too late. From 2010-2014, yeah he was essentially cashing checks. -
Could have just hit Post Comment right there.RoadDawg55 said:
There is no legacy if he is fired after this year. I think Romar is trying to survive next year by piecing together another great class. A middle Pac 12 finish and another good class and Romar is the coach for another year. Then he might make a tourney and will be able to stay until retirement or until the next 3-4 year drought.Doogles said:Roman giving the cold shoulder to any top 100 player in the area seems suicidal considering one of the main arguments for keeping him is keeping the local talent at home.
Something about this seems strange all around. Having a dad come to a message board seems like a high maintenance overly involved family presence.
I'm sure it's a headache to recruit, but At the end of the day, if he can play when the ball is rolled out you need to make an effort.
Romar is dangerously close to tarnishing his legacy if it comes out he already threw in the white towel and is just cashing checks.
He needs to pull a rabbit out of the hat in a bad way or this will go down as lesson 101 on how not to leave with dignity.
Seriously embarrassing shit surrounding the men's bball program.
Romar is lazy. I'm don't know dick, but there really isn't another answer. He missed out on the big guns and had no realistic fall back plans. Sounds pretty lazy to me. I think now he's actually trying to remedy the situation, but it is likely too late. From 2010-2014, yeah he was essentially cashing checks. -
Pretty much agreeRoadDawg55 said:
There is no legacy if he is fired after this year. I think Romar is trying to survive next year by piecing together another great class. A middle Pac 12 finish and another good class and Romar is the coach for another year. Then he might make a tourney and will be able to stay until retirement or until the next 3-4 year drought.Doogles said:Roman giving the cold shoulder to any top 100 player in the area seems suicidal considering one of the main arguments for keeping him is keeping the local talent at home.
Something about this seems strange all around. Having a dad come to a message board seems like a high maintenance overly involved family presence.
I'm sure it's a headache to recruit, but At the end of the day, if he can play when the ball is rolled out you need to make an effort.
Romar is dangerously close to tarnishing his legacy if it comes out he already threw in the white towel and is just cashing checks.
He needs to pull a rabbit out of the hat in a bad way or this will go down as lesson 101 on how not to leave with dignity.
Seriously embarrassing shit surrounding the men's bball program.
Romar is lazy. I'm don't know dick, but there really isn't another answer. He missed out on the big guns and had no realistic fall back plans. Sounds pretty lazy to me. I think now he's actually trying to remedy the situation, but it is likely too late. From 2010-2014, yeah he was essentially cashing checks.
He's either lazy or just no prepared.
I barely follow college basketball anymore, but the way I see it, there are two routes to go since ca. 2009:
You can either go for a lot of all-Americans who will probably be one or two and dones and maybe one merely good player who will stay all four years per class...or maybe two. That's the way Calimari, Sean Miller, and Bill Selfish (I think) go. And Coach KKK too. Maybe whomever is at NC too. If you're not at a CBB royalty school, like Warshington (HI DAMONE!!!), this route is pretty difficult, if not impossible.
Otherwise, you need to build your team with good, team oriented players who probably won't be ready to make the NBA first round within a year, or possibly even after four, and sprinkle in whatever top 20 players you can find. It's kind of what Gonfaga has done If you can get the great players, OK, but they need to somehow not turn into Tony Wrotens and just play wild....if possible.
Romar was able to get a few of the elite/near elite players several years ago, but it didn't really stick. After about 2011, the talent he was getting took a hit and we have the crap teams now because he's not a good coach who can turn 18-20 win talent into 21-24 win talent. Instead, he's turned it into 16 win talent, or whatever the hell number of gaymes we've been winning.
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He's not smart enough to be lazy.RoadDawg55 said:
There is no legacy if he is fired after this year. I think Romar is trying to survive next year by piecing together another great class. A middle Pac 12 finish and another good class and Romar is the coach for another year. Then he might make a tourney and will be able to stay until retirement or until the next 3-4 year drought.Doogles said:Roman giving the cold shoulder to any top 100 player in the area seems suicidal considering one of the main arguments for keeping him is keeping the local talent at home.
Something about this seems strange all around. Having a dad come to a message board seems like a high maintenance overly involved family presence.
I'm sure it's a headache to recruit, but At the end of the day, if he can play when the ball is rolled out you need to make an effort.
Romar is dangerously close to tarnishing his legacy if it comes out he already threw in the white towel and is just cashing checks.
He needs to pull a rabbit out of the hat in a bad way or this will go down as lesson 101 on how not to leave with dignity.
Seriously embarrassing shit surrounding the men's bball program.
Romar is lazy. I'm don't know dick, but there really isn't another answer. He missed out on the big guns and had no realistic fall back plans. Sounds pretty lazy to me. I think now he's actually trying to remedy the situation, but it is likely too late. From 2010-2014, yeah he was essentially cashing checks.
His mediocrity isn't some master plan. He's a shitty coach than in his best times still did nothing more than roll the ball out. He's dumb. -
I don't consider him dumb, but in my non-expert opinion (I haven't watched much UW basketball in recent years), my belief is that with Bone and Dollar as assistants he had a perfect symbiosis, and was able to maximize the talent. Once those guys left, he didn't hire adequate replacements, and that's why we've had such poor strategizing and fundamentals since then.
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He never maximized the talent he had. His best teams lost to practically all teams they faced with more talent. With Bone and Dollar he had Nate Robinson, who was an NBA starter and had a decade long career and Roy, who was an NBA All Star and he still couldn't get past the sweet sixteen. If he had maximized that talent, he would have done something significant with it.
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RoadDawg55 said:
There is no legacy if he is fired after this year. I think Romar is trying to survive next year by piecing together another great class. A middle Pac 12 finish and another good class and Romar is the coach for another year. Then he might make a tourney and will be able to stay until retirement or until the next 3-4 year drought.Doogles said:Roman giving the cold shoulder to any top 100 player in the area seems suicidal considering one of the main arguments for keeping him is keeping the local talent at home.
Something about this seems strange all around. Having a dad come to a message board seems like a high maintenance overly involved family presence.
I'm sure it's a headache to recruit, but At the end of the day, if he can play when the ball is rolled out you need to make an effort.
Romar is dangerously close to tarnishing his legacy if it comes out he already threw in the white towel and is just cashing checks.
He needs to pull a rabbit out of the hat in a bad way or this will go down as lesson 101 on how not to leave with dignity.
Seriously embarrassing shit surrounding the men's bball program.
Romar is lazy. I'm don't know dick, but there really isn't another answer. He missed out on the big guns and had no realistic fall back plans. Sounds pretty lazy to me. I think now he's actually trying to remedy the situation, but it is likely too late. From 2010-2014, yeah he was essentially cashing checks.
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If it was Bone and Dollar that made Romar a success, was he ever really a success at all?
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I completely disagree with this theory. Bone and Dollar were worthless after leaving Romar.DerekJohnson said:I don't consider him dumb, but in my non-expert opinion (I haven't watched much UW basketball in recent years), my belief is that with Bone and Dollar as assistants he had a perfect symbiosis, and was able to maximize the talent. Once those guys left, he didn't hire adequate replacements, and that's why we've had such poor strategizing and fundamentals since then.
If anyone is responsible for Romar's earlier success it was Nate Robinson, Brandon Roy, Jon Brockman and Isaiah Thomas, not a couple of mediocre assistants. -
100% agree.dnc said:
I completely disagree with this theory. Bone and Dollar were worthless after leaving Romar.DerekJohnson said:I don't consider him dumb, but in my non-expert opinion (I haven't watched much UW basketball in recent years), my belief is that with Bone and Dollar as assistants he had a perfect symbiosis, and was able to maximize the talent. Once those guys left, he didn't hire adequate replacements, and that's why we've had such poor strategizing and fundamentals since then.
If anyone is responsible for Romar's earlier success it was Nate Robinson, Brandon Roy, Jon Brockman and Isaiah Thomas, not a couple of mediocre assistants.
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Gilby was worthless after leaving Coach James.dnc said:
I completely disagree with this theory. Bone and Dollar were worthless after leaving Romar.DerekJohnson said:I don't consider him dumb, but in my non-expert opinion (I haven't watched much UW basketball in recent years), my belief is that with Bone and Dollar as assistants he had a perfect symbiosis, and was able to maximize the talent. Once those guys left, he didn't hire adequate replacements, and that's why we've had such poor strategizing and fundamentals since then.
If anyone is responsible for Romar's earlier success it was Nate Robinson, Brandon Roy, Jon Brockman and Isaiah Thomas, not a couple of mediocre assistants. -
That's because his only real skill was as an OL coach. He was carried by excellent talent as an OC, but wasn't exposed until he made HC.DerekJohnson said:
Gilby was worthless after leaving Coach James.dnc said:
I completely disagree with this theory. Bone and Dollar were worthless after leaving Romar.DerekJohnson said:I don't consider him dumb, but in my non-expert opinion (I haven't watched much UW basketball in recent years), my belief is that with Bone and Dollar as assistants he had a perfect symbiosis, and was able to maximize the talent. Once those guys left, he didn't hire adequate replacements, and that's why we've had such poor strategizing and fundamentals since then.
If anyone is responsible for Romar's earlier success it was Nate Robinson, Brandon Roy, Jon Brockman and Isaiah Thomas, not a couple of mediocre assistants.
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After failing as a head coach, Gilby came back as an OC and helped lead the 2000 Huskies to the Rose Bowl championship, and every player I interviewed on that team gave him massive credit for their success.dnc said:
That's because his only real skill was as an OL coach. He was carried by excellent talent as an OC, but wasn't exposed until he made HC.DerekJohnson said:
Gilby was worthless after leaving Coach James.dnc said:
I completely disagree with this theory. Bone and Dollar were worthless after leaving Romar.DerekJohnson said:I don't consider him dumb, but in my non-expert opinion (I haven't watched much UW basketball in recent years), my belief is that with Bone and Dollar as assistants he had a perfect symbiosis, and was able to maximize the talent. Once those guys left, he didn't hire adequate replacements, and that's why we've had such poor strategizing and fundamentals since then.
If anyone is responsible for Romar's earlier success it was Nate Robinson, Brandon Roy, Jon Brockman and Isaiah Thomas, not a couple of mediocre assistants.
He wass a hell of an OL coach though. -
ftfyDerekJohnson said:
After and before failing as a head coach, Gilby came back as an OC and helped lead the 2000 Huskies to the Rose Bowl championship, and every player I interviewed on that team gave him massive credit for their success.dnc said:
That's because his only real skill was as an OL coach. He was carried by excellent talent as an OC, but wasn't exposed until he made HC.DerekJohnson said:
Gilby was worthless after leaving Coach James.dnc said:
I completely disagree with this theory. Bone and Dollar were worthless after leaving Romar.DerekJohnson said:I don't consider him dumb, but in my non-expert opinion (I haven't watched much UW basketball in recent years), my belief is that with Bone and Dollar as assistants he had a perfect symbiosis, and was able to maximize the talent. Once those guys left, he didn't hire adequate replacements, and that's why we've had such poor strategizing and fundamentals since then.
If anyone is responsible for Romar's earlier success it was Nate Robinson, Brandon Roy, Jon Brockman and Isaiah Thomas, not a couple of mediocre assistants.
He wass a hell of an OL coach though.
I give Gilby massive success for the dominating OL on that team. I give Tui and RN credit for success of the offense though. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't RN call the plays?
