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  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246

    jecornel said:

    His offense started to suck his last two years at Boise, He went to the spread bullshit and it failed.

    If I was modeling an offense after anyone in CFB today it would be Ohio State, who took Oregons offense and added more power type concepts to its design.

    If you can build a good to great OL that's the way to go...especially considering the pac12 top to bottom is usually pretty weak up in the with NTs/DTs year over year.

    Urban was running exactly what Oregon was until a freakish amount of injuries to the QB position landed him on negro Tebow. Then he started playing it like he did at Florida.

    When your QB can get you 3rd and 4th & Short 90%+ of the time, you're pretty much unbeatable if your defense can force turnovers. Last year's Ohio State team was more luck than good. If Braxton plays out the whole season they're never in that title game. They would have still been a good team, but not a team that just couldn't be stopped. They'll win it all again this year too. It's Tebow 2.0, but with an arm.
  • d2d
    d2d Member Posts: 3,109
    edited April 2015

    I don't think it is wrong to be a really detailed team. It sounds like they may have just put too much on players that couldn't learn the details. I would love for our team to be highly detailed, when was the last time we had a quarterback that could get out of the huddle and figure out what the defense was planning to do just by their alignments. I don't want our coaches to dumb down everything too much, to me last year was probably more of a case of having players that just couldn't figure anything out.

    I agree with lil jimmy, I want this team to be like Stanford and run the ball a ton and beat the team into submission, I think we can get there at some point and details will matter a ton if we do want to get to that level of play. Good teams pay attention and refine the smallest details, it's what separates them from teams that don't.

    I probably didn't make much sense here, long day in the salt mines and I haven't had a coke yet.

    All that being said, I wouldn't mind if Smith sold his couch.

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  • Dardanus
    Dardanus Member Posts: 2,623
    Mosster47 said:

    jecornel said:

    His offense started to suck his last two years at Boise, He went to the spread bullshit and it failed.

    If I was modeling an offense after anyone in CFB today it would be Ohio State, who took Oregons offense and added more power type concepts to its design.

    If you can build a good to great OL that's the way to go...especially considering the pac12 top to bottom is usually pretty weak up in the with NTs/DTs year over year.

    Urban was running exactly what Oregon was until a freakish amount of injuries to the QB position landed him on negro Tebow. Then he started playing it like he did at Florida.

    When your QB can get you 3rd and 4th & Short 90%+ of the time, you're pretty much unbeatable if your defense can force turnovers. Last year's Ohio State team was more luck than good. If Braxton plays out the whole season they're never in that title game. They would have still been a good team, but not a team that just couldn't be stopped. They'll win it all again this year too. It's Tebow 2.0, but with an arm.
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  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246

    Mosster47 said:

    jecornel said:

    His offense started to suck his last two years at Boise, He went to the spread bullshit and it failed.

    If I was modeling an offense after anyone in CFB today it would be Ohio State, who took Oregons offense and added more power type concepts to its design.

    If you can build a good to great OL that's the way to go...especially considering the pac12 top to bottom is usually pretty weak up in the with NTs/DTs year over year.

    Urban was running exactly what Oregon was until a freakish amount of injuries to the QB position landed him on negro Tebow. Then he started playing it like he did at Florida.

    When your QB can get you 3rd and 4th & Short 90%+ of the time, you're pretty much unbeatable if your defense can force turnovers. Last year's Ohio State team was more luck than good. If Braxton plays out the whole season they're never in that title game. They would have still been a good team, but not a team that just couldn't be stopped. They'll win it all again this year too. It's Tebow 2.0, but with an arm.
    You mean being -5 on the TO margin and still beating Oregon by 22 is lucky?

    No, with negro Tebow they are pretty much unstoppable. If they were running their #1 or #2 QB they never get past Bama. They probably lose to Sparty in their conference title game. It was pure luck how they turned into a title caliber team.

  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Mosster47 said:

    Mosster47 said:

    jecornel said:

    His offense started to suck his last two years at Boise, He went to the spread bullshit and it failed.

    If I was modeling an offense after anyone in CFB today it would be Ohio State, who took Oregons offense and added more power type concepts to its design.

    If you can build a good to great OL that's the way to go...especially considering the pac12 top to bottom is usually pretty weak up in the with NTs/DTs year over year.

    Urban was running exactly what Oregon was until a freakish amount of injuries to the QB position landed him on negro Tebow. Then he started playing it like he did at Florida.

    When your QB can get you 3rd and 4th & Short 90%+ of the time, you're pretty much unbeatable if your defense can force turnovers. Last year's Ohio State team was more luck than good. If Braxton plays out the whole season they're never in that title game. They would have still been a good team, but not a team that just couldn't be stopped. They'll win it all again this year too. It's Tebow 2.0, but with an arm.
    You mean being -5 on the TO margin and still beating Oregon by 22 is lucky?

    No, with negro Tebow they are pretty much unstoppable. If they were running their #1 or #2 QB they never get past Bama. They probably lose to Sparty in their conference title game. It was pure luck how they turned into a title caliber team.

    They were one game away from playing for the Natty in 2013 and were 12-0 in 2012. You're easily the dumbest poster on the board.
    Coots hate facts.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,626 Standard Supporter

    Doogles said:

    I don't think it is wrong to be a really detailed team. It sounds like they may have just put too much on players that couldn't learn the details. I would love for our team to be highly detailed, when was the last time we had a quarterback that could get out of the huddle and figure out what the defense was planning to do just by their alignments. I don't want our coaches to dumb down everything too much, to me last year was probably more of a case of having players that just couldn't figure anything out.

    I agree with lil jimmy, I want this team to be like Stanford and run the ball a ton and beat the team into submission, I think we can get there at some point and details will matter a ton if we do want to get to that level of play. Good teams pay attention and refine the smallest details, it's what separates them from teams that don't.

    I probably didn't make much sense here, long day in the salt mines and I haven't had a coke yet.

    It's not about being a dumb simpleton squad. It's about being able to assess your personnel, connecting, and adapting. A coach worth his salt should recognize things aren't clicking and slow it down.

    Jesus, in junior high PE I didn't tell chubby Jenny to run a sluggo route. I looked into her disinterested swollen eyes and told her to just stand next to the right of the center and look up.
    Pics?
    Actually chuckled at that one

  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,626 Standard Supporter

    Mosster47 said:

    Mosster47 said:

    jecornel said:

    His offense started to suck his last two years at Boise, He went to the spread bullshit and it failed.

    If I was modeling an offense after anyone in CFB today it would be Ohio State, who took Oregons offense and added more power type concepts to its design.

    If you can build a good to great OL that's the way to go...especially considering the pac12 top to bottom is usually pretty weak up in the with NTs/DTs year over year.

    Urban was running exactly what Oregon was until a freakish amount of injuries to the QB position landed him on negro Tebow. Then he started playing it like he did at Florida.

    When your QB can get you 3rd and 4th & Short 90%+ of the time, you're pretty much unbeatable if your defense can force turnovers. Last year's Ohio State team was more luck than good. If Braxton plays out the whole season they're never in that title game. They would have still been a good team, but not a team that just couldn't be stopped. They'll win it all again this year too. It's Tebow 2.0, but with an arm.
    You mean being -5 on the TO margin and still beating Oregon by 22 is lucky?

    No, with negro Tebow they are pretty much unstoppable. If they were running their #1 or #2 QB they never get past Bama. They probably lose to Sparty in their conference title game. It was pure luck how they turned into a title caliber team.

    They were one game away from playing for the Natty in 2013 and were 12-0 in 2012. You're easily the dumbest poster on the board.
    Ohio State has been a top 5-10 machine since Tressel was there and were basically at that level with a mediocre coach in the 90s. It's cute Mosster thinks the Fucks are anywhere near them.
  • HeretoBeatmyChest
    HeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295

    Mosster47 said:

    Mosster47 said:

    jecornel said:

    His offense started to suck his last two years at Boise, He went to the spread bullshit and it failed.

    If I was modeling an offense after anyone in CFB today it would be Ohio State, who took Oregons offense and added more power type concepts to its design.

    If you can build a good to great OL that's the way to go...especially considering the pac12 top to bottom is usually pretty weak up in the with NTs/DTs year over year.

    Urban was running exactly what Oregon was until a freakish amount of injuries to the QB position landed him on negro Tebow. Then he started playing it like he did at Florida.

    When your QB can get you 3rd and 4th & Short 90%+ of the time, you're pretty much unbeatable if your defense can force turnovers. Last year's Ohio State team was more luck than good. If Braxton plays out the whole season they're never in that title game. They would have still been a good team, but not a team that just couldn't be stopped. They'll win it all again this year too. It's Tebow 2.0, but with an arm.
    You mean being -5 on the TO margin and still beating Oregon by 22 is lucky?

    No, with negro Tebow they are pretty much unstoppable. If they were running their #1 or #2 QB they never get past Bama. They probably lose to Sparty in their conference title game. It was pure luck how they turned into a title caliber team.

    They were one game away from playing for the Natty in 2013 and were 12-0 in 2012. You're easily the dumbest poster on the board.
    Ohio State has been a top 5-10 machine since Tressel was there and were basically at that level with a mediocre coach in the 90s. It's cute Mosster thinks the Fucks are anywhere near them.
    Metrics superiority guy said if you rank programs just on SRS, going back 50 years or so Ohio St is #1. In terms of accomplishments (NC, major bowls, league titles) they are 4 or 5.
  • MisterEm
    MisterEm Member Posts: 6,685

    Mosster47 said:

    Mosster47 said:

    jecornel said:

    His offense started to suck his last two years at Boise, He went to the spread bullshit and it failed.

    If I was modeling an offense after anyone in CFB today it would be Ohio State, who took Oregons offense and added more power type concepts to its design.

    If you can build a good to great OL that's the way to go...especially considering the pac12 top to bottom is usually pretty weak up in the with NTs/DTs year over year.

    Urban was running exactly what Oregon was until a freakish amount of injuries to the QB position landed him on negro Tebow. Then he started playing it like he did at Florida.

    When your QB can get you 3rd and 4th & Short 90%+ of the time, you're pretty much unbeatable if your defense can force turnovers. Last year's Ohio State team was more luck than good. If Braxton plays out the whole season they're never in that title game. They would have still been a good team, but not a team that just couldn't be stopped. They'll win it all again this year too. It's Tebow 2.0, but with an arm.
    You mean being -5 on the TO margin and still beating Oregon by 22 is lucky?

    No, with negro Tebow they are pretty much unstoppable. If they were running their #1 or #2 QB they never get past Bama. They probably lose to Sparty in their conference title game. It was pure luck how they turned into a title caliber team.

    They were one game away from playing for the Natty in 2013 and were 12-0 in 2012. You're easily the dumbest poster on the board.
    Ohio State has been a top 5-10 machine since Tressel was there and were basically at that level with a mediocre coach in the 90s. It's cute Mosster thinks the Fucks are anywhere near them.
    Metrics superiority guy said if you rank programs just on SRS, going back 50 years or so Ohio St is #1. In terms of accomplishments (NC, major bowls, league titles) they are 4 or 5.
    Yea, but still... it's all luck.

    Sincerely,

    Mosster47
    #NegroTebow
    #RichRodTheGreat
  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839

    jecornel said:

    His offense started to suck his last two years at Boise, He went to the spread bullshit and it failed.

    If I was modeling an offense after anyone in CFB today it would be Ohio State, who took Oregons offense and added more power type concepts to its design.

    If you can build a good to great OL that's the way to go...especially considering the pac12 top to bottom is usually pretty weak up in the with NTs/DTs year over year.
    I snickered that someone believes that Urban Meyer took Oregon's offense.

    There's a reason he cleaned Oregon's clock.

    He helped invent the offense.

    He has just begun to evolve it.

    Oregon saw what they could become.
  • HuskyInAZ
    HuskyInAZ Member Posts: 1,732
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    topdawgnc said:

    jecornel said:

    His offense started to suck his last two years at Boise, He went to the spread bullshit and it failed.

    If I was modeling an offense after anyone in CFB today it would be Ohio State, who took Oregons offense and added more power type concepts to its design.

    If you can build a good to great OL that's the way to go...especially considering the pac12 top to bottom is usually pretty weak up in the with NTs/DTs year over year.
    I snickered that someone believes that Urban Meyer took Oregon's offense.

    There's a reason he cleaned Oregon's clock.

    He helped invent the offense.

    He has just begun to evolve it.

    Oregon saw what they could become.
    This.

    It was when Urbs beat Bellotti back when he was in his first year at the HC at Utah that Iron Mike said "we gotta get some of this spread action" and hired Gary Crowton as his OC.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,466 Founders Club
    AZDuck said:

    topdawgnc said:

    jecornel said:

    His offense started to suck his last two years at Boise, He went to the spread bullshit and it failed.

    If I was modeling an offense after anyone in CFB today it would be Ohio State, who took Oregons offense and added more power type concepts to its design.

    If you can build a good to great OL that's the way to go...especially considering the pac12 top to bottom is usually pretty weak up in the with NTs/DTs year over year.
    I snickered that someone believes that Urban Meyer took Oregon's offense.

    There's a reason he cleaned Oregon's clock.

    He helped invent the offense.

    He has just begun to evolve it.

    Oregon saw what they could become.
    This.

    It was when Urbs beat Bellotti back when he was in his first year at the HC at Utah that Iron Mike said "we gotta get some of this spread action" and hired Gary Crowton as his OC.
    You mean it wasn't when he bent over at the waist with a hand on each ass cheek pulling them apart screaming "cum uncle Phil, cum!" ??

    Weird.



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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,894 Founders Club
    Who beat him that made him hire Stubler?
  • AlCzervik
    AlCzervik Member Posts: 1,774

    jecornel said:

    His offense started to suck his last two years at Boise, He went to the spread bullshit and it failed.

    If I was modeling an offense after anyone in CFB today it would be Ohio State, who took Oregons offense and added more power type concepts to its design.

    If you can build a good to great OL that's the way to go...especially considering the pac12 top to bottom is usually pretty weak up in the with NTs/DTs year over year.
    Pretty sure Urban was running his own offense and not something he took from Oregon and tweaked a little.
  • WilburHooksHands
    WilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804
    pawz said:

    You mean it wasn't when he bent over at the waist with a hand on each ass cheek pulling them apart screaming "cum uncle Phil, cum!" ??

    fucking A man...